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Anyone not having vaccine , why aren't you?

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LazyDaisy10 · 20/05/2021 09:37

Is anyone not having the vaccine and what are your reasons? Im in my 30s I'm not having the vaccine because I'm worried about the long term effects that might not come to light for a few years. Why are you not having it?
If you think the vaccine is amazing and anyone not having it is selfish you probably don't need to comment.

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Sirzy · 20/05/2021 12:26

@MrsA2015

My gp advised me not to.
And this is why those who can be vaccinated should be, to help offer extra protection to the minority of people who genuinely can’t have it
katylees · 20/05/2021 12:28

@WaterBottle123

Well you are selfish as you'll be relying on herd immunity. If the truth upsets you maybe stop your read-write access to the internet?
No I will be relying on my own immune system that I was born with
Roonerspismed · 20/05/2021 12:31

I’m really wavering. I’m very low risk for covid and don’t care if I get it.

I’m very healthy and fit. But I feel increasingly strongly that I should therefore take it to protect this less fortunate than me.

But I’m very concerned about the unknown longer term health risks. For this reason I actually only want the AZ vaccine rather than the mRNA vaccine. Which puts me at odds without people but I just don’t think we can say there are no longer term effects of mRNA vaccines

So I will, reluctantly, take the AZ vaccine next week

MotherOfGodWeeFella · 20/05/2021 12:31

@katylees - I'm not terrified, just responsible. And I'm a blood donor. In any debate, in order to have credibility you need facts, not supposition or hyperbole. Covid 19 has not been painted as the black death. The situation has been a fast moving one and knowledge has increased throughout the pandemic. Lucky it's not turned out like the 1918 flu and mutated into a virus which causes a cytokine storm in younger people.

Badyboo · 20/05/2021 12:31

Insulting people who decide not to take the vaccine is bullying and emotional blackmail

A public health campaign is not bullying you, get a grip.

katylees · 20/05/2021 12:32

It's quite interesting that those who have religions which may prohibit them from taking the vaccine are accepted yet those concerned about health side effects are viewed as selfish.. what an insane society.

Probably about time people took responsibility for their own health and stopped interfering in what others do. I have an obese colleague who continually tells people to have the vaccine or they are " selfish" for potentially taking up health services yet she is admitted to hospital frequently for a health condition that would improve with a bit of self control over food and exercise.. tends to be people like this hypocrite always banging the selfish drum

katylees · 20/05/2021 12:33

@Badyboo

Insulting people who decide not to take the vaccine is bullying and emotional blackmail

A public health campaign is not bullying you, get a grip.

Abuse online and letters weekly is not a " public health campaign".. if you're terrified of covid get the vaccine , what's it to you what others do as you are vaccinated anyway
Temp023 · 20/05/2021 12:34

If you aren’t having the vaccine for any reason, other than that a qualified doctor has advised you not to have it, then you are a selfish moron!

Premier12 · 20/05/2021 12:35

@giletrouge

I won't comment on your decision not to have the vaccine on the day you stop saying who can and can't comment on your thread OP.
Grin
MotherOfGodWeeFella · 20/05/2021 12:35

The more you post @katylees, the more you show your true colours.

Premier12 · 20/05/2021 12:35

@RockWhatRock

I bloody love the vaccine. I’d have it every day if I could.
Grin
ifonly4 · 20/05/2021 12:35

katytees hope you're immune system is better than mine then. I had pneumonia when I was 37 and 42, it's no joke struggling to breathe, really not having the energy to do anything - wash/eat/stand up. I have no underlying health conditions/nothing usually wrong with me beforehand. Maybe I was particularly bad, but it took me about six weeks to get any level of energy back.

eandz13 · 20/05/2021 12:38

You're not selfish. I'm not going to have it because I don't need it. I'm healthy. My risk is extremely slim of becoming severely unwell with covid. Similar to the risk of becoming unwell as a result of having the vaccine, actually.

shitstirrer · 20/05/2021 12:40

would love to know the biological mechanism that enables a vaccine to cause cancer, please enlighten me

MotherOfGodWeeFella · 20/05/2021 12:41

Probably the same one that causes autism Hmm

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 20/05/2021 12:41

Ultimately, my reasons FOR having the vaccine are selfish. I just want my children to have normal childhoods again without bubbles, closures, lockdowns, staying apart etc. To have swimming lessons, grandparents visiting, holidays again.

Im pleased we have freedom of choice. Ultimately we are responsible for our own health. And maybe, responsible for ensuring wevact I a way that doesn't negatively impact the health of others.

OodieWoodie · 20/05/2021 12:42

I do think the OP has a point. The long term consequences of the vaccine are still not known.

I had my first dose last week and will not be having my second. I have been very ill since having it. I have been told these are normal side effects. I have also been told it cannot possibly be the vaccine and I must have caught something else. Interesting, considering that I WFH and have managed to not be sick for a number of months. Any time I have been ill, a member of my household who works/attends school outside of the home has been ill prior to me getting ill. But not this time. And I am the only one who has been vaccinated in my home.

People have a right to choose what medical services they receive. You can still catch and spread covid even after having two doses of the vaccine, so I'm not really sure how having the vaccine stops the spread?

PineappleTart · 20/05/2021 12:44

I've had both jabs. I got a little ill but that's easy to deal with. I'm early 40's and everyone I know has had or is desperate to have the vaccine. Every medical professional I've spoken to has happily had it as have people I know who work in various sciences. It's a no brainer

Sirzy · 20/05/2021 12:46

You can still catch and spread covid even after having two doses of the vaccine, so I'm not really sure how having the vaccine stops the spread?

Being vaccinated has been shown to reduce the rate of transmission by 40-60% therefore the more people who are vaccinated the more spread will be reduced thus protecting those who can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons.

Temp023 · 20/05/2021 12:47

@eandz13

You're not selfish. I'm not going to have it because I don't need it. I'm healthy. My risk is extremely slim of becoming severely unwell with covid. Similar to the risk of becoming unwell as a result of having the vaccine, actually.
Christ, you dozy article! You may not get extremely unwell with Covid, but you may catch it and as it multiplies in your ( extremely fit, I’m sure) body it may mutate. It may mutate to a version that is more transmissible, or more lethal or both. It may mutate to a version that is unaffected by the vaccine. Now you will be immune to this version because you have created it, unfortunately the people that you pass it on to will not be immune and your version will spread and maybe kill lots of people, or maybe lock us all down again.

This is why you are selfish if you don’t have the vaccine, nobody honestly gives a fuck whether you are ill or not, it is the rest of the population we are thinking about.

bumbleymummy · 20/05/2021 12:47

@WaterBottle123

Well you are selfish as you'll be relying on herd immunity. If the truth upsets you maybe stop your read-write access to the internet?
Don’t be silly. Were we all ‘selfish’ when we were benefitting from a reduction of cases and hospitalisations when the older groups were vaccinated? I don’t think she’s necessarily ‘relying’ on herd immunity. She may be perfectly happy to take her risk with the virus, as many people are and have been for the last year+.
XenoBitch · 20/05/2021 12:49

I wont be having the vaccine.. at least not via a needle (severe needle and medical phobia). The risk to my mental health is too great.
I hope that is a good enough reason for the people out there that feel the need to police these things and call people selfish.

bumbleymummy · 20/05/2021 12:54

@Sirzy

You can still catch and spread covid even after having two doses of the vaccine, so I'm not really sure how having the vaccine stops the spread?

Being vaccinated has been shown to reduce the rate of transmission by 40-60% therefore the more people who are vaccinated the more spread will be reduced thus protecting those who can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons.

‘Reduces’ isn’t the same as ‘stops’ though, is it? I think her point stands.
Temp023 · 20/05/2021 12:58

@XenoBitch

I wont be having the vaccine.. at least not via a needle (severe needle and medical phobia). The risk to my mental health is too great. I hope that is a good enough reason for the people out there that feel the need to police these things and call people selfish.
Well if you can have it another way, good on you! The thing is people like yourself can safely remain unvaccinated if the rest of us step up and have the thing. That is how herd immunity works.
BodenseeBoden · 20/05/2021 13:03

it could accelerate the development of cancers

I'm pretty sure you misunderstood something here. The development of the covid vaccine accelerates the development of cancer vaccines, as they're both mRNA vaccines, so rely on the same principle.

While I don't mind if other people take the vaccine or not, I'm very much looking forward to mine (and will gladly accept a cancer vaccine, too, should I ever need it)