Anyone not having vaccine , why aren't you?

[LazyDaisy10]

Is anyone not having the vaccine and what are your reasons? Im in my 30s I'm not having the vaccine because I'm worried about the long term effects that might not come to light for a few years. Why are you not having it?
If you think the vaccine is amazing and anyone not having it is selfish you probably don't need to comment.

That was in response to katylees saying no one injects themselves for society.

@IrishGirl2020 The people more vulnerable than you have already been vaccinated.

I won't be getting it because I'm pregnant and I won't be getting yet after birth because I will be breastfeeding
I heard that annual covid booster jabs will be for people over 40 or with underlying health problems so to me I don't really see the point in anyone under the age of 40 getting the vaccine
A flu vaccine only lasts a few months so I'm assuming the covid one will be similar

Obviously people who work with the vulnerable or have elderly relatives just to be on the safe side but I must admit the lockdown has made me change the way I live anyway so I'm happy to keep shopping online and avoiding people in general

The long term effects won't be known for a long time

@Trying2611

I'm 25 and for the same reasons not having it at the moment - not never just at the moment it doesn't feel right for me :)

also I haven't been ill for around 2 years including, cough, cold ect, a lot of my friends have become ill after the vaccine, that being general runny nose, cough, cold - I feel healthy and I hate being sick haha - like i said not now but not never for me

@bumbleymummy
But the vaccine isn’t 100% effective and so I thought it was also a case of also needing most people vaccinated to stop transmission of Covid. Much like the herd immunity argument put forward for measles - the vaccine doesn’t mean you definitely won’t catch it if it is prevalent in the community - just that if most people are vaccinated, that will stop it from becoming prevalent.
But I am not by any means well read on this - so do correct me if I’m wrong!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=wosyaWiDR2U

News article, young woman dies 4 days after Moderna vaccine.

How on earth is that a coincidence??

@Londonmummy00

m.youtube.com/watch?v=wosyaWiDR2U

News article, young woman dies 4 days after Moderna vaccine.

How on earth is that a coincidence??

Did she get hit by a car?

A little girl now has to grow up without a mother. A young woman dead. I’d say that’s devastating, and is it worth it for society??? Makes me sick people will think it actually is.

@SqueakyCleanBean

Personally, I would encourage young people, for the sake of society, to NOT have the jab (unless they want it). We're heading towards something rather unpleasant, with this level of coercive control of people's own bodies. So, for the good of society, don't be selfish and go for an easy life - resist, if you don't want to be part of the medical trial. The more people resist, the less this pervasive undemocratic control sneaks in..

How is this coercive control? If you don’t want it, don’t have it. If you don’t want people to know you don’t have it, don’t tell them. Exactly what is undemocratic about this process?

@Londonmummy00

A little girl now has to grow up without a mother. A young woman dead. I’d say that’s devastating, and is it worth it for society??? Makes me sick people will think it actually is.

Have you got a link to this article?

@SqueakyCleanBean - so you would rather more Covid deaths and ongoing restrictions and lockdowns?
You’re talking rubbish and so selfish. Are you a doctor, scientist or virologist?

Medical reasons. I literally cried when I had to turn it down and literally just emailed my doctor to see if there’s anyway round it - which I doubt but I’m clutching at straws! Would be getting it in a heartbeat otherwise…

@Londonmummy00

So the 2 chinese doctors didn’t just ‘disappear’ after revealing the origins of Covid. Happens all the time in those kind of countries.

Andrew Wakefield struck off the nhs for daring to express his views that MMR can cause autistic behaviours?

Most people do not trust governments at all! There’s a reason for that.

Omg you really are an anti vaxxer aren't you? Stop spouting such dangerous paranoid shite.

@Temp023

If you aren’t having the vaccine for any reason, other than that a qualified doctor has advised you not to have it, then you are a selfish moron!

The more people type crap like this, the more it will encourage people not to have it.. who the hell are you to be barking orders at what people should inject into themselves?

[quote Parker231]@SqueakyCleanBean - so you would rather more Covid deaths and ongoing restrictions and lockdowns?
You’re talking rubbish and so selfish. Are you a doctor, scientist or virologist?[/quote]
No matter how many times people say vaccines should be health based not legislation based the penny won't drop with some people will it? What will you say to the small numbers of families left without a son/daughter after a fatal bloodclot? " Well it was a political decision to have the vaccine to avoid further lockdowns?"

[quote MapleMay11]**@katylees You sound incredibly ignorant. Obesity is a disease so to refer to the person as an 'obese colleague' is stigmatising and shameful. The correct term is 'colleague with obesity'. Your colleague is making national insurance contributions so is entitled to medical care via the NHS. Does the fact that I contribute many more times than the average person mean that I am entitled to receive much more care? I think not, so the argument applies both ways.[/quote]
Take your virtue signalling about the correct term and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. She is lazy and eats too much, I know as she tells me so it's a lifestyle choice not a " disease"

I had to laugh at " refer to the person as an 'obese colleague' is stigmatising and shameful. The correct term is 'colleague with obesity'. As if there is any difference between an obese colleague and a colleague with obesity.. silly woman. Some obese people have diseases, someone who doesn't exercise enough and eats too much doesn't have a " disease" @MapleMay11

@LazyDaisy10, sorry, maybe you're not concerned about getting very ill but I'm sure you know and care about people that we are taking the risk on behalf of where you are not willing to. You have that luxury because of the people who are taking this risk.

Of course I get that you have worries. So did I. But I am responsible for doing what I can to reduce the spread to your family and mine.

@WaterBottle123

Well you are selfish as you'll be relying on herd immunity. If the truth upsets you maybe stop your read-write access to the internet?

I agree. Unfortunately, these selfish people will get the protection they require from the unselfish ones that have chosen to take the vaccine. Herd immunity should be about protecting the people who can't have the vaccine through no choice of their own. I'd suggest she'd be better posting in the comments section of the Daily Mail.

@Parker231 have you actually commented anything of substance whatsoever? Why are you here?

@SqueakyCleanBean

Personally, I would encourage young people, for the sake of society, to NOT have the jab (unless they want it). We're heading towards something rather unpleasant, with this level of coercive control of people's own bodies. So, for the good of society, don't be selfish and go for an easy life - resist, if you don't want to be part of the medical trial. The more people resist, the less this pervasive undemocratic control sneaks in..

Fully agree, when there was mass objection to the so called football super league it was soon scrapped and regarding lockdowns/ variants / vaccine passports the sooner people object to this shift to totalitarianism the better. All of the above are far more terrifying than the "dreaded covid"

@katylees You can have as many ridiculous outbursts as you like but the simple fact remains - you are wrong.

translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12967-019-1919-y

Why can’t i comment?

I believe strongly that everyone who can medically should have the vaccines to protect themselves and those around them. It’s a big step forward to returning to a normal life, saving lives and protecting the NHS. I also don’t want to receive another phone telling me that a friend has died of Covid.

@Seriouslymole

I'm wavering on it to be honest. My initial reasons for not wanting it are that I think it has a microchip in it that will allow me to be tracked wherever I go.

No, just kidding, my initial reservations about it are :

1. There can be no long-term research into this. Say what you like but this is a new vaccine (Pfizer in particular) and there is no long-term evidence of side affects.
2. I know so many people who have been very unwell after having the jab.
3. I think it is ethically outrageous that we are vaccinating everyone now when we should be helping vaccinate the vulnerable in other countries who couldn't afford to stockpile vaccinations.
4. I don't know whether the risk (at my age - 40s, fitness- good, obesity level - not overweight, co-morbidities - none) of covid outweighs the risk of the vaccine.

I am freaked out by the vitriol on MN directed at those who haven't yet had the vaccine or who dare question it in any way; it feels very, very odd.

Some of those are valid reasons but I do have to ask, do you really think the biochemical experts with decades of experience in the field would approve distribution if there was a significant risk from "long term effects"? It seems to me people think this is a bingo card that no scientist has thought of or made any effort to mitigate against. They have a much better understanding of the biophysical interactions than you do and are so much better placed to decide if it is likely to be a problem or not...