@Valhalla17
I dont see the need for these threads. if you're having it, great. If you're not having it, fine. Your medical history and decisions are your business! I'm sick of people asking the question. nobody asks if I've had the flu vaccine or my smear....quite frankly its only MY business!
Then scroll on by. I do see the need on MN because there seems to be a consistent chorus not only here but in society at large on people rushing to take it and not enough questioning on WHY. People just trysting blindly when we're told "they're safe". Yet when anyone questions the rollout and the insistence that "everyone" should get a jab they are disparaged as "conspiracy theorists" and chased out. It has happened every single time I've expressed my views on MN. It will happen this time, too.
To another poster: the 99.97% recovery stat is accurate. I believe I did mention that this is for people under the age of 70 and with no underlying conditions.
All of these vaccine companies are, in my eyes, criminal. Pfizer alone has been a habitual offender persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results. Since 2002 the company and its subsidiaries have been assessed $3 billion in criminal convictions, civil penalties and jury awards.
The other companies have also had to pay out billions in criminal charges but I'm too lazy to go look them up; do so yourself. Pharma companies have wreaked havoc in India and Africa, killing or maiming thousands and rendering thousands of girls infertile. No wonder why Indians and Africans are suspicious of them and refusing their jab.
I too of am an "ethnic minority" and I grew up in a British colony, a "third world" country where I had a very free childhood and no doubt exposed to all kinds of microbes and germs, which is why I not only have a very robust immune system but also great faith in it and great wonder about my body and its ability to fight off disease. I caught hepatitis A when I was 19 and a few years ago had an antibody test before starting a new job in a hospital, and lo and behold, I am still immune to hep A after 50 years. That's how smart my body is. All our bodies.
I was also raised by parents who were government-critical and I do not automatically trust authority or politicians. The latter are mostly either lying or stupid or both, and do not have our interests at heart. So yes, I've been suspicious from the start. Ethics is a lost virtue in politics these days.
Would you trust your child with a baby-sitter with a past criminal record as a child sex-offender? Would you believe him when he says he is safe? If not, you might understand how I feel about these vaccines; though even if they are proven safe when the trial is over in 2023 I will not take them, as I prefer my immune system to do its job.
(If this were ebola etc or another disease with a high death rate it would be different. But this is an infection with mild outcomes for the vast majority of us and I am not in the vulnerable group, in spite of my age. So, no fear whatsoever.)
Fear is a worse virus, and that has spread so far society is being divided: the "good" vaccinated and the "bad" unvaccinated. It seems that now, the vaccinated have to be protected from the unvaccinated, in case the unvaccinated infect the vaccinated with the very thing the vaccinated have been vaccinated against.
We are also the ones who will be made responsible for the next wave. Mark my words. And we are responsible for restrictions not being lifted. We are the enemy, and you hate us. I'm lucky in that my close family are all unvaccinated, and the only outlier is my daughter's mother in law. Still, we are all kind to her and do not shut her out, in spite of new rumours about "shedding".
As for the quoted post: If you're not having it, fine. Your medical history and decisions are your business! I'm sick of people asking the question. nobody asks if I've had the flu vaccine or my smear you've got to be joking!!!!! EVERYWHERE I go people are proudly boasting about having got "their" jab. Just the other day at the post office I overheard a customer and the postal clerk exchanging information strangers!! Taxi-drivers, builders, perfect strangers have told me their vax status. As for friends, they can't stop talking about it. In a Skype group of friends they were all going on about their jab date and their first or second jab, and I was the only silent one. When I said I won't get it, their flabber was thoroughly gasted. They were speechless; that's not something you can ever say publicly these days as you'll be maligned and called selfish and a granny-killer. Some of my FB friends have that "I've been vaccinated!" thing around their profile. My best friend of 50 years has openly said that anyone who doesn't get it is selfish. She doesn't know about me. I don't want to lose the friendship but I am very sad. They are all proud and boasting but you are upset by that very small minority who, on a very few MN threads, dare to open their mouths.
So yes, scroll on past these threads. To others, I say, speak up and don't be afraid. There are more of us that you can even dream of. Turn off your TV and join Telegram or MeWe groups for community. Speaking out on Facebook will get you banned, which should tell you everything.
Sorry this turned into a rant. Sometimes it just has to come out.