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Anyone not having vaccine , why aren't you?

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LazyDaisy10 · 20/05/2021 09:37

Is anyone not having the vaccine and what are your reasons? Im in my 30s I'm not having the vaccine because I'm worried about the long term effects that might not come to light for a few years. Why are you not having it?
If you think the vaccine is amazing and anyone not having it is selfish you probably don't need to comment.

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Pumperthepumper · 20/05/2021 20:30

@katylees

"At this stage I’d settle for a simple explanation of what you think Pumper means."

If it was from someone else, it would imply a connection to a fire engine , but I'm having visions of a cold winter night, street corner and a car pulling up as a source of your inspiration in choosing the name for some reason.

For a final time @Pumperthepumper have you anything constructive to add to the thread actually dealing with the thread question?

What in god’s good name does this mean? You said I was living up to my username - why do you find it so difficult to explain your options?
Ethelfromnumber73 · 20/05/2021 20:31

Has anyone else noticed that as the evidence mounts that the vaccines are doing an amazing job, the antivaxxers are getting angrier? Don't have the vaccine if you don't want it - nobody is forcing you. Just chill Wink

Pumperthepumper · 20/05/2021 20:31

@katylees

"At this stage I’d settle for a simple explanation of what you think Pumper means."

If it was from someone else, it would imply a connection to a fire engine , but I'm having visions of a cold winter night, street corner and a car pulling up as a source of your inspiration in choosing the name for some reason.

For a final time @Pumperthepumper have you anything constructive to add to the thread actually dealing with the thread question?

Hang on, are you saying I’m a prostitute?
Wildswim · 20/05/2021 20:31

I'm not having it. I've had Covid so have immunity.

Plus it's still in trial stage and no-one knows the long term effects.

PaulGallico · 20/05/2021 20:32

Katylees still sat with a phone, in his/her pyjamas shouting at the world - crazy thread.

lazyarse123 · 20/05/2021 20:32

@Londonmummy00

It seems not to be the wise thing at the moment to declare you are NOT having the vaccine, unless to close friends and family.

It also seems like most of mumsnet are in favour of the vaccine but in real life, for me anyway, it’s not the case. Sure grandparents and those over 50s have had it that I know (and some in the 50s age bracket that have regretted it) But out of my close friends and cousins we are not having it.
Various reasons but main ones are for blood clots from any of the 3 main vaccines not just AZ, that it could accelerate the development of cancers or other health issues that are just starting in your body that you do not yet know about, worries about infertility. Myself and some friends have been on the contraceptive pill for 10 years plus and although have so far not had any side effects or issues with blood clotting do we know for certain that contraceptive pill plus a vaccine that DOES indeed cause blood clots in some, is a safe combination?
For all those saying contraceptive pill increases blood clots but i take that. Yes i do as i have been on it for over 10 years and I believe I would have had some blood clot problems by now. I don’t and have never had any side effects at all. It is also a huge benefit for me and preferred over methods like the coil etc. For me it works and is literally a life changer, as I do not want to have any more children.
Is the vaccine such a life changer for me?? Is it worth taking a risk with my life? Leaving my 2 young children without a mother? For what? Covid which for a healthy 30 something year old is going to be no more than a flu at WORST?
What is the gain? Even for holidays those vaccinated are having to jump through as many hoops as those not. You can still spread it to others, you can still get it. So for a 30 year old you will go from flu symptoms to a few days of a cold? OK... We’ve never questioned when we’ve had actual flu or strep throat or tonsillitis which is horrendous for me lasting up to 2 weeks.

I had covid last year pre any vaccines. It was a very bad cold. I have had worse tonsillitis - now that’s bad. I catch everything from my nursery/ school age kids- I’ve had it all, and some awful viruses. I got through them all covid is just ‘another virus’
From recent news it doesn’t send many 30 year olds into zombies neither does it hospitalise them on ventilators . I know how my body handles covid. I have NO idea what will happen after the vaccine. I may even have no side effects just a sore arm and post on here later that it was all fine and everyone else refusing it is selfish and an idiot! I wouldn’t be so sure of myself 6 months down the line, or a year, when there is a sudden uprise in cancers or other disease...
This isn’t just about having 1 vaccine. It isn’t just 1 and you have life long immunity. No, it’s 3 vaccines at least this year... so for most of us that will be 3 vaccines in the space of 6 months... plus a flu jab... that’s 4. And back to more vaccinations early next year to combat the ‘’new variants’’.
That simply cannot be healthy on anyone at all. A healthy under 40s person does NOT ever need that! Invest in some good quality vitamins like Solgar/ Viridian, do a full blood test to see if you are as fully healthy as you believe, wash your hands regularly wear your mask and SD when possible.

Oh and those saying what do we normal people know, we are not doctors. Doctors are only telling us what the government has instructed them to say. A few maybe in hushed voices may privately advise to wait or not get the vaccine at all. But what happens then, they lose their license and get struck off, lose their career. No ones going to risk that. Plus themselves have no idea what is really in those vaccines. Of course they will have natural reservations, doctors are only human after a rushed out emergency use vaccine. But they will adhere to the script the government has given them.

Would you like to explain this codswallop to the mum of a 15 year I know? The poor kid has long covid which has left him bedridden and dependant on his mum for every thing. Nobody knows whether he will recover. Are you aware that a lot of the people with severe symptoms at the moment are teenagers and those between 30 and 40. I recommend you stay aware from 5G masts or alternatively keep away from social media and do some proper research.
JustBeKind111 · 20/05/2021 20:33

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Pumperthepumper · 20/05/2021 20:34

@katylees

lol @ someone called *@Pumperthepumper* admitting to not giving her view on the thread topic which is the whole point of any forum losing her shit again talking about " spoiling for a fight"

Whatever you say pumpy

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katylees · 20/05/2021 20:34

@PaulGallico

Katylees still sat with a phone, in his/her pyjamas shouting at the world - crazy thread.
so now we have an incel spending his evenings on mumsnet insulting women.. says it all really lol
Pumperthepumper · 20/05/2021 20:34

@Wildswim

I'm not having it. I've had Covid so have immunity.

Plus it's still in trial stage and no-one knows the long term effects.

Don’t have it then. Problem solved.
EmmaOvary · 20/05/2021 20:34

@katylees

I don't believe I said that.

Guess what - we can tackle hunger, dirty water AND vaccinate, too.

And I was merely paraphrasing a lot of very clever people who know what they're talking about when it comes to epidemic response. I'm sorry if that doesn't suit your argument.

Pumperthepumper · 20/05/2021 20:35

[quote katylees]@Pumperthepumper

No you haven't given any views on the topic at all- a classic troll just trying to argue semantics with posters instead of the thread topic. At least you live up to your name I'll give you that[/quote]
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PinkSparklyIncorrigibleDunce · 20/05/2021 20:36

Hardly anyone not taking the vaccine believes that so your question is irrelevant and just posed to discredit/ridicule people in exercising body autonomy in refusing the vaccine

No it fucking isn't! I know you have selective reading abilities but, if you bothered to read my first post (the one you keep referring to) I said I only know one person who has said they aren't having the vaccine and I explained their reasons were due to conspiracy theories. I have also said I respect peoples' right not to have the vaccine but your blinkered posts don't make any reference to that.

I can only speak from my experience, which is my friends and family are all happy to have the vaccine and one acquaintance isn't. I don't care that they aren't having it, but I do care that they are spreading absolute bollocks on FB and other social media and some people might see it and, whereas I laugh their stupidity, think they are right.

EmmaOvary · 20/05/2021 20:37

@JustBeKind111 not really living up to your username, are you?! But well done for being so flippant about mental health, it's a good look. I'm sorry if you think there is something bizarre about giving a shit about other people's well-being.

katylees · 20/05/2021 20:38

Probably best to get off fb, I got rid of it years ago

katylees · 20/05/2021 20:39

@Ethelfromnumber73

Has anyone else noticed that as the evidence mounts that the vaccines are doing an amazing job, the antivaxxers are getting angrier? Don't have the vaccine if you don't want it - nobody is forcing you. Just chill Wink
Not really, the anger has repeatedly come from those telling people they are selfish fuckers for not having the vaccine
Wildswim · 20/05/2021 20:41

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Doomsdayisstillcoming · 20/05/2021 20:44

I think people have a choice.

Just like we have a choice to be obese, or smoke, or drink excessively.

We love burdening ourselves in this country, why wouldn’t we carry on in the same spirit?

HarrietOh · 20/05/2021 20:46

@Ethelfromnumber73

Has anyone else noticed that as the evidence mounts that the vaccines are doing an amazing job, the antivaxxers are getting angrier? Don't have the vaccine if you don't want it - nobody is forcing you. Just chill Wink
It’s like they’re disappointed we haven’t grown an extra head or turned green so they can scream “I told you so! Should have DYOR!”
FedNlanders · 20/05/2021 20:46

I'm 34, had both and not a single regret.

EmmaOvary · 20/05/2021 20:46

Christ, this thread is a fucking cesspit.

bumbleymummy · 20/05/2021 20:47

@abraxan Some diseases, not all. There are currently millions of people who can’t be vaccinated/haven’t been vaccinated yet along with all those who aren’t immune from their vaccine. Technically, they could all be putting the people you’ve mentioned at risk. The at risk person has to decide whether they want to put themselves at risk of coming into contact with any of those people. That’s the way it works with other diseases too.

PinkSparklyIncorrigibleDunce · 20/05/2021 20:47

Who cares about some usernames? LOL maybe get a life lady? Only unstable person can put other people wellbeing above his own (although how?? Vulnerable have been jabbed so your jab is pointless to them) Do you not want to live longer or have more children in the future? Weird sacrifice but I'll let it be. It's your choice!

As well as protecting myself, I had the vaccine to protect DH who is 20 years older than me and my elderly family. Yes they are all vaccinated but I wanted to reduce the risk of them catching anything from me as it appears the vaccines reduce transmission. If that makes me unstable then so be it.

Cinclus · 20/05/2021 21:08

Given that there already accepted links between the vaccines and blood clots... your comment makes no sense. Why do you think numerous countries aren't giving AZ to under 40s...

I was pointing out the stupidity of suggesting that someone dying four days after having a vaccine in any way meant that the vaccine must have caused her death. (Which if it's the woman in Utah, as far as I can see was not from blood clots anyway.)

In America there have been 25000 adverse events reported and 960 deaths that may or may not have been caused by vaccination, they don't know yet. This is after 90M vaccinations. So 0.001% of people might have died from the vaccine but might not. Even if they were all killed by the vaccine, it's significantly lower than COVID mortality rates even for 40 year olds, which looks to be about 0.4%. The risk of death from COVID is 400x greater than the risk of death from the vaccine.