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If you had decided not to have the AZ vaccination, has the Indian variant changed your mind?

278 replies

nancysblush · 15/05/2021 10:34

Or if you’d decided not to have your 2nd dose are you now going to go ahead and get it? Because it’s looking like the only way we’re getting out of this is for everybody who possibly can to get fully vaccinated.
Seeing all the people on the news this morning in Bolton who’ve been eligible for a vaccination for for months but for whatever reason haven’t bothered (apparently there’s 10,000 in Bolton alone) has really surprised me. Now they’ve realised they’re at risk they’re all rushing to get done. Bit late though and potentially this surge of cases could have been avoided.

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Ridingthegravytrain · 15/05/2021 17:48

Covy likely won’t notice her “dose” of the “Indian variant” that’s the whole point

ineedaholidaynow · 15/05/2021 17:55

@Ridingthegravytrain but then she may kindly spread it to someone else who will.

ScarlettSunset · 15/05/2021 18:10

No.
I cancelled an AZ appointment. Have rebooked and hoping to get an alternative. If they insist it is AZ or nothing though, I will continue to wait.

Imreaaaaady · 15/05/2021 18:15

Shocked at those who say they won't get vaccinated at all. Wtf is wrong with you?!

Covywovy · 15/05/2021 18:15

I thought the entire point of vaccines was to reduce severity of disease! So, by this logic, only those unvaccinated like me could get sick.
If this is NOT the case, then what is the point of getting vaccinated anyway?

These vaccines are surely a con if you can still catch regardless of vaccination status.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 15/05/2021 18:18

@Covywovy

No. Not going to have it. There'll always be some variant. I'm not scared of covid. It's not Ebola. The hysteria is ridiculous for a disease virtually harmless to the vast majority. Why should I be emotionally blackmailed into having a dodgy jab for something that will probably be no more than a cold for me. This is NOT selfish- I'm not stopping anybody else getting their armful of this rushed out because hysteria vaccine. Already sick to the back teeth of all the 'when you getting jab?' talk. I've taken to darkly muttering about a 'medical condition' to get people to shut up.

They will literally have to physically restrain me to have this. Totally lost respect for those who are not elderly/ vulnerable having this.

As a 46 year old with no underlying condition (that I'm aware of) I have no respect for people like you either so it works both ways.
KaleSlayer · 15/05/2021 18:19

Shocked at those who say they won't get vaccinated at all. Wtf is wrong with you?!

🙄

HarrietOh · 15/05/2021 18:20

If everyone refused the vaccine, and deaths were through the roof and no access to NHS as over run, wonder how these people would feel. Wait 10 years so it’s “properly tested?” Hmm

littlepeas · 15/05/2021 18:24

I am in my late 30’s and had Pfizer yesterday, but it would be a very hard decision for me if it was a choice between AZ and not having a vaccine at all. I will admit that I feel relieved to have had my vaccine but I was very anxious about AZ when I thought it would be my only option.

Happyrascalsmummy · 15/05/2021 18:25

It's making me consider it. Only because we have a big family holiday for MILs 70th birthday later in the year, if cases keep going up I don't want to risk testing positive and being unable to fly. Personally I'm not concerned about catching it and everyone around me who's vulnerable has had both of their vaccinations already.

MaxNormal · 15/05/2021 18:26

I've already declined my vaccine due to my medical history.
The Indian variant issue hasn't changed anything for me.

JamesAnderson · 15/05/2021 18:33

My mind is genuinely blown by people who both believe they are too precious and important to take a vaccine taken by literally millions AND who are too dim to realise that - yes - this variant is a risk to them. The thought that we may all be forced into a longer lockdown by this group is just infuriating

I totally agree with this.
I think the responsibility of any future lockdowns should be borne mostly by people who refuse their vaccine.
Especially if they're saying they can't rather than don't want to. At least be honest about why

Florelei · 15/05/2021 18:34

Have the vaccine or don’t have the vaccine. I don’t really care.

I suspect at least some of the people who don’t have the jab might end up regretting it eventually. A family friend of ours insisted before Christmas that she wasn’t at risk from covid and was determined to enjoy herself at Christmas. She had everyone and their aunt to her house and ended up in the HDU on a cpap machine. She still can’t get up the stairs of her house yet, as she’s been affected so badly.

But I strongly feel that this is one of the greatest things about living in a free society - everyone has a free choice to make whatever choices they think best. Whilst I can have an opinion as to how wise I think the choices of another person are, I will strongly defend their right to make those choices.

littlebillie · 15/05/2021 18:38

@Countrylane

It all feels a bit Darwinian at this point, especially with Indian doctors clearly stating that this variant is hitting younger people much harder. My mind is genuinely blown by people who both believe they are too precious and important to take a vaccine taken by literally millions AND who are too dim to realise that - yes - this variant is a risk to them. The thought that we may all be forced into a longer lockdown by this group is just infuriating.
There is a massive complacency about medical care in this country.

It's not that long ago we had compulsory vaccination for small pox and to travel you needed a vaccine certificate.

I think privilege well organised healthcare system gives us a choice whereas parts of the world are dying in their thousands and would love to have the vaccine.

bumbleymummy · 15/05/2021 18:38

@Imreaaaaady

Shocked at those who say they won't get vaccinated at all. Wtf is wrong with you?!
Nothing. That’s why I’m not getting vaccinated. I’m in a very low risk group. And no, the Indian variant hasn’t changed my mind.
KaleSlayer · 15/05/2021 18:40

Especially if they're saying they can't rather than don't want to. At least be honest about why

I wouldn’t lie. I’m choosing not to have it. People have a right to choose.

Alonim · 15/05/2021 18:41

I feel very strongly that I will not be vaccinated yet ... this new variant has made me question that decision though.

I also wonder whether this new panic is a clever tactic to keep us cautious as we open up this Monday. Maybe the Indian variant is of no greater concern than any of the others.

littlebillie · 15/05/2021 18:41

@KaleSlayer

Shocked at those who say they won't get vaccinated at all. Wtf is wrong with you?!

🙄

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Parker231 · 15/05/2021 18:42

In the US if you have had your vaccinations you can mix more freely with other vaccinated people and don’t need to wear a mask all the time. If you haven’t been vaccinated you still have to follow restrictions.

whataballbag · 15/05/2021 18:42

@TheRogueApostrophe

I have health anxiety, which is the reason I haven't yet had the AZ. Of course the health anxiety is also a problem re covid. Not a great position for an anxious person to be in! It certainly isn't a case of "not bothering" to get the vaccine; I've though of little else since I was called a few weeks ago.
Same situation! I've had one and had no reaction luckily. Not keen on the second.
Sadsiblingatsea · 15/05/2021 18:44

No, I’m not getting vaccinated.
Why take the risk?

Fixitup2 · 15/05/2021 18:44

I agree with the Darwinian approach to a point. My worry is that the unvaccinated by choice ‘because I’m worried my last 2 brain cells will be eraticated’ will mean that more variants could evolve which could potentially put my unvaccinated children at risk. I say this as a very low risk person who hasn’t recovered yet from Covid 6 months ago. I also worry as a nurse that the unvaccinated will clog up healthcare and delay medical care to those who need it and didn’t have a choice to prevent their illness. There should be a waiver that you sign to accept that you understand you will not be given priority healthcare over someone else as you knew the risks of not being vaccinated.

Orangebug · 15/05/2021 18:45

OP, the answer to your question is "lots of people" (given what's happening in Bolton), but it looks like no one is prepared to admit on this thread that they're one of them!

Covywovy These vaccines are surely a con if you can still catch regardless of vaccination status - as I'm sure you know really, the vaccines are not 100% effective and have never claimed to be. So a small percentage of people will catch it regardless of vaccination status. The aim of the vaccination programme is to get the number of unprotected people as low as possible.

Whichjab · 15/05/2021 18:46

If anything it would have made more determined to get Pfizer as they have much more data on the vaccine efficacy against variants than AZ.

MaxNormal · 15/05/2021 18:46

In the US if you have had your vaccinations you can mix more freely with other vaccinated people and don’t need to wear a mask all the time. If you haven’t been vaccinated you still have to follow restrictions

Except in the many states that have no mask mandate.

And.. how is this enforced? Who actually checks? It completely relies on people following guidelines.

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