What do we all think about 21st June date?

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As it comes closer, my excitement for this date of lifted restrictions has started to turn into a big question mark - how can we go from the rule of six no no restrictions on meeting?
Is it realistic? I know no one can know, but what do people think? I have so many lovely dates pencilled into my calendar including children's birthdays and family weddings - will any of my pals have their big white July wedding?!

@TeeBee

Oh, I'm saying no, doesn't stop them continually asking when they can come over/come and stay/meet for drinks and get back to 'normal'. I'm actually considering moving to get some bloody peace.

Just tell them you don’t like their company and would rather not spend time with them, in fact you’re considering moving away rather than have to socialise with them. That should stop the invitations and ensure they leave you in peace.

It's not that I don't like people's company it's just that everyone is trying to manically book loads in to get back to 'normal' and I'd prefer more time to adjust. You'd think it would be enough telling people 'I'm finding it all a bit overwhelming and I have so much on my plate right now, maybe we can postpone?' Appears not.

Just hoping the vaccination booking opens to all of us in our late 30s soon or we won't have time to build up any immunity by 21st June (is it takes about 3 weeks from the jab).

@TeeBee

It's not that I don't like people's company it's just that everyone is trying to manically book loads in to get back to 'normal' and I'd prefer more time to adjust. You'd think it would be enough telling people 'I'm finding it all a bit overwhelming and I have so much on my plate right now, maybe we can postpone?' Appears not.

I feel the same as you. I’m not worried about Covid at all but I’m a socially anxious person and feel I’ve been ‘out of practice’ because of the pandemic. My mental health is not good at the moment, either so I don’t really feel like being around people.

Definitely don’t want lockdown to continue - just that one of the cons of the lifting of restrictions is that everyone wants to meet up! I’m just not feeling it at the moment.

Its my birthday so I really can't wait 🥳

@nordica

Just hoping the vaccination booking opens to all of us in our late 30s soon or we won't have time to build up any immunity by 21st June (is it takes about 3 weeks from the jab).

People in their late 30s who haven’t been vaccinated yet are at low risk. Hence them not being in any other priority group. It’s not necessary for people in our age group to be fully protected before they lift restrictions. Plus, case numbers are low so as long as you take precautions you should be fine!

I’m in my late 30’s and more than happy for things to open up before I’m vaccinated. My risk is low.

@nordica

Just hoping the vaccination booking opens to all of us in our late 30s soon or we won't have time to build up any immunity by 21st June (is it takes about 3 weeks from the jab).

30s with no underlying health conditions are low risk. I'm 30 and won't have both vaccinations before full opening and I'm very happy to take that chance. If you aren't then you can stay at home. We can't keep everything closed until all the low risk people have had the jab, the lockdown was never to protect us in the first place.

@x2boys

I'm fully vaccinated,so I was feeling positive,just had a leaflet through the door saying we are an area of concern,sodding Bolton again🙄,just hope this doesn't translate into higher hospital admissions.

I live in the area with the massive school outbreak so our rates are now one of the highest in the country . Fingers crossed it won't spread any further.

Just had a leaflet through the door saying we are an area of concern, sodding Bolton again

I'm sorry to hear that, but given the reported resistance to vaccination among the local community it's hardly a surprise

Happily a lot's being done by community leaders and so forth, but it's hard to know how well it'll work, and with Eid coming up this week I wonder what compliance with the dreaded rules will be like

I live in the area with the massive school outbreak so our rates are now one of the highest in the country . Fingers crossed it won't spread any further.

Evidence in a recent paper suggests that adults in a family with a child attending school is at greater risk of Covid infection than the general population, unless a very significant set (at least 7) of mitigations are in place. So unless the families of all those from the school are absolutely rigorous in self isolation, it seems really likely that the cases will at least spread into the families of those at school.

Very true @Puzzledandpissedoff,I'm not concerned about getting Ill as myself and my DH are both fully vaccinated,I am concerned about spread in schools however I just hope this doesn't lead to further closures

@cantkeepawayforever

I live in the area with the massive school outbreak so our rates are now one of the highest in the country . Fingers crossed it won't spread any further.

Evidence in a recent paper suggests that adults in a family with a child attending school is at greater risk of Covid infection than the general population, unless a very significant set (at least 7) of mitigations are in place. So unless the families of all those from the school are absolutely rigorous in self isolation, it seems really likely that the cases will at least spread into the families of those at school.

The local primaries have told all siblings of isolating children to stay home too, whether they test positive or not. Which is something at least. DS is at a local primary and no cases there this week. Although if the rumours are to be believed it was caused by a student at the school hosting a party. No idea if that is true or not. It all happened over the bank holiday weekend so if we don't see a further increase pretty soon then hopefully it's contained.

Waxonwaxoff0 Wales is now vaccinating 18 year olds so it's very frustrating to still be ineligible here in England. The UK has millions of vaccine doses stockpiled but local vaccination centres are closing down.

Not as easy as just staying at home when people need go to work, attend appointments, use public transport, have kids at school etc.

Wales has a much smaller population than England.

Presumably though you have been going to work and your children have been back at school since March at least and cases are much lower now. You don't have to have people over or go to the pub until you're vaccinated if you don't want to.

@RaisinsRuinEverything

21st June is only 43 days away. I’ve managed without things for the best part of a year. Just because you can do things doesn’t mean you have to. I prefer to wait.

I'm not waiting! I'm going into the office when I can, I've had my eyelashes and eyebrows done, pedicure, leg wax and my ear pierced last week. This week I've got a hair colour and manicure and I'm going on holiday on Friday. I'm loving the feeling of being semi normal. Had it not been cold and wet I'd have been out for a meal but that can wait until we can ear indoors.

I don't see the point of waiting just in case it doesn't happen

People in their 30s are at higher risk of long covid, depending on their occupation. It's not all about ending up on a ventilator.

Won't be going out until I'm vaccinated but I have no protection at work.

@MapleBee

People in their 30s are at higher risk of long covid, depending on their occupation. It's not all about ending up on a ventilator.

Won't be going out until I'm vaccinated but I have no protection at work.

Higher risk, but still low risk.

"Nearly one in seven Britons who tested positive for COVID-19 continued to have symptoms for at least 12 weeks, according to a UK study released Thursday.

The Office for National Statistics said the study of over 20,000 people who had tested positive from April last year to March this year found 13.7 percent had symptoms that lasted for at least 12 weeks."

I’m happy to take the 1 in 7 risk. If you’re not then that’s fine too, no one will make you go out.

Lockdown was not implemented to stop people getting long Covid. It was to avoid the nhs being overwhelmed by critical care cases.

If you want to avoid risk of long Covid, you can keep yourself locked down until you’re vaccinated.

I can't keep myself locked down because I have a job. Just be aware that not everyone has a choice.

I can't keep myself locked down because I have a job. Just be aware that not everyone has a choice.

If you’ve been out and about since the start, why the panic now? Numbers are very low now.

Really??? Where are you going that there is no one way systems?? Genuine question?
Yesterday I went to next, matalan dunelm and Sainsbury’s, (the security guard there was standing at the front of the queue bellowing that we shouldn’t be shopping together and that we should follow the one way system) and they all had one way systems? I think they are unnecessary but they are definitely there.

My local Sainsburys has never had a one way system. Neither did Boots, Superdrug or Holland and Barrett. Since non-essential shops opened I've been in John Lewis, two different branches of Marks and Spencer, Next, The Range, Wickes, Gap, White Stuff, Diesel and various others. None of them had a one way system. John Lewis and I think one other had entrance and exit separated, but once in the shop you could go in whichever direction you wanted.