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Anybody been invited and declined the jab?

716 replies

Devlesko · 19/04/2021 14:03

Beginning to think I did the right thing now.
Anybody else?

OP posts:
MercyBooth · 21/04/2021 19:45

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-care-home-resident-held-23937350

Scots care home resident ‘held down and vaccinated against her will’ as two workers suspended
The Care Inspectorate warned that unless there is marked improvement at Millport Care Centre it will cancel the home’s registration.

nitsandwormsdodger · 21/04/2021 19:52

Periods stopping is not a side effect that people are experiencing op

JellyBabiesFan · 21/04/2021 20:12

I wonder how many of those here planning to decline were previously shooting down us who had reservations about the speed these vaccines got approved.

MercyBooth · 21/04/2021 20:21

I wonder what the uptake of the boosters will be if they pull another lockdown.

Nora1978 · 21/04/2021 20:36

I am truly astonished at people turning down the vaccine. After all the covid deaths and the misery of lockdown- you want more? Am just baffled I’m sorry. They’re now predicting a third wave because too many adults haven’t yet been vaccinated. It just makes me so angry.

MercyBooth · 21/04/2021 20:42

@Nora1978 Its a question of trust. People were told the vaccines were the way out of this. Then told.............no you can still transmit the virus after having the vaccine. Goalposts have been moved and the public has been gaslighted again and again.

Hence my post about boosters. A lot of people have been vaccinated already. So will be angry if there is Lockdown 4

Flumo · 21/04/2021 21:16

I'm 27 and had both my pf jab (nhs staff) and felt absolutely fine both jabs. No problems with period and no long term effects, most of the staff in my hospital are 20/30's and none have complained about side efforts or different periods. I feel so lucky to be able to protect me and family and my patient 😌

PinkElephant7 · 21/04/2021 21:27

I've declined. Just want to hold off for a while and see what happens. It seems to me that vaccinations will need to happen every year and I can't see them being offered to everyone for free for ever. It's more likely they will be offered to vulnerable groups and that's not me so if I don't need it long term, why do I need it now?

Zerempathy · 21/04/2021 21:47

@BuggerBognor @KurtWilde

Your comments are unhelpful for those of us suffering with long Covid. I don’t believe the numbers affected are that low. I know a lot of people who haven’t bothered reporting long Covid symptoms because they know the doctors are offering no treatment.

I can assure you that as a long-term self employed member of the public with awful long Covid it’s frustrating to hear that people might be taking the piss with sick leave.

But I also know that I feel like crap a lot of the time and I’m clinging onto my clients by the skin of my teeth - and doing a fuck of a lot of paddling under the surface. Meantime I’m neglecting everything else in my life and that feels shit...

Be careful before you judge. The viral load experienced by some frontline nhs staff would presumably be higher than someone like me who works on zoom and who probably got it from touching something or standing next to someone who was infected in the supermarket?

I think long Covid is a better reason to get the vaccine than regular COVID.

I was very healthy before this and yes I ate organic foods though not exclusively and actively prioritised my health. My BMI is 21. What more could I have done?

savethegrannies · 21/04/2021 22:05

abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/fda-inspection-found-problems-factory-making-jj-vaccine-77217310
People have every right to be proceeding with caution on this, especially the young...

KurtWilde · 21/04/2021 22:38

@Zerempathy I'm also self employed so I fully understand how difficult you must be finding it, I had prolonged joint pain after covid for around 6 weeks and when I spoke to a GP and mentioned long covid he said no it was unlikely, and referred me to a physio for a phone appointment. I mentioned long covid to the physio who also point blank refuses to consider it might be that.

Schulte · 22/04/2021 09:04

Just had the Moderna at AFC Wimbledon thanks to @BuggerBognor‘s brilliant advice. Very happy!

vera99 · 22/04/2021 09:28

A very good summary of where we are, where we've been and where we are going from Professor Devi Sridhar with some relevant thoughts on the misinformation....

www.medscape.com/viewarticle/947382#vp_6

The second thing is bots — accounts or people who spread misinformation. Eric knows this, being on Twitter. There is a vast amount of disinformation being spread and videos being created by people who just call themselves "professor." They're not even professors. They just call themselves "professor" on their Twitter handle, and they give themselves a PhD credential, and then they're putting up YouTube videos that are being seen in India. People aren't taking vaccines because they said, "I saw some professor." I'm like, at what university? They say, "We don't know; he calls himself 'professor.'" It's amazing to watch.....

........Nobody seems to want to ever move in academia. I think it's the egos and the need to be right. In the States there's a great example — I don't want to mention anyone by name, but from some of the classic institutions like Stanford, Harvard — professors coming out with things that actually are not evidence based. It's astonishing that they're not willing to say at some point, "I got that wrong, I'm willing to move."

Instead, they just keep digging themselves into a deeper and deeper pit. That's been astonishing. I think there are three sources: the academics who just refuse to move because of their egos; the bots and fake pseudocelebrity accounts pretending to be professors; and then, of course, the leaders who just are populist and not in tune with actual science.

I've really struggled because you can't fight every single one of them; there are too many. You end up being consumed in the mud. How do you stay out of the mud of where anything you say, someone says something the opposite of it?

The third thing that's been really difficult is academics who are real academics, but who stuck their heels in very early to their position and refused to move.

Last January or February some academics came out and said things like, most of the population has already had it, or it was pre-existing immunity, or it's not as bad as we think it is. They have not moved. The world has moved. We have evidence. I really admire people who will say, "We thought the infection fatality rate was much less. It's higher than we thought. We reevaluated our position."

LastChanceToChange · 22/04/2021 09:35

I need to stop reading threads like this. The lack of critical thinking is appalling.

We have experts in their field to advise us of the efficacy and safety of medicines. If the EMEA and MHRA (the best regulator in the world) say the benefits far outweigh any rare side effects that's good enough for me. (I have worked in pharmaceuticals for 20 years).

vera99 · 22/04/2021 09:48

MN is, without doubt, the most prolific mainstream disseminator of pandemic misinformation in the UK through mostly unmoderated baseless unscientific scaremongering. I am saddened and surprised that they allow so much through here which would (rightly) be expunged from other social media channels.

Frequentflier · 22/04/2021 09:51

The news coming in from India is that slim, young, fit people with "great immunity" and the best access to medical facilities are dying in droves of this disease that no one under the age of 65 dies from.

LastChanceToChange · 22/04/2021 09:52

@vera99

MN is, without doubt, the most prolific mainstream disseminator of pandemic misinformation in the UK through mostly unmoderated baseless unscientific scaremongering. I am saddened and surprised that they allow so much through here which would (rightly) be expunged from other social media channels.
Agreed 100%. It's appalling. No doubt some has been put off having their vaccine due to the utter tripe on this thread (and others). It's criminal.
LastChanceToChange · 22/04/2021 09:53

@Frequentflier

The news coming in from India is that slim, young, fit people with "great immunity" and the best access to medical facilities are dying in droves of this disease that no one under the age of 65 dies from.
Where is your source? Has it been scientifically verified? Or did you read it on social media?
LastChanceToChange · 22/04/2021 09:57

@Frequentflier

The news coming in from India is that slim, young, fit people with "great immunity" and the best access to medical facilities are dying in droves of this disease that no one under the age of 65 dies from.
reported
Frequentflier · 22/04/2021 09:57

My source @lastchancetochange is that I am from India and my friends and extended family are dying. You can find lots of information on the web. I am not in a state of mind to dig them out right now.

Frequentflier · 22/04/2021 09:58

can't believe I was reported for that, but go ahead. I will return later with sources, once I have sorted out sending my condolences.

MarshaBradyo · 22/04/2021 10:01

Agreed 100%. It's appalling. No doubt some has been put off having their vaccine due to the utter tripe on this thread (and others). It's criminal.

Yes agree with you and Vera

MarshaBradyo · 22/04/2021 10:02

@Frequentflier

can't believe I was reported for that, but go ahead. I will return later with sources, once I have sorted out sending my condolences.
Flowers it must be so hard
AliceMcK · 22/04/2021 10:05

I’ve declined. A few reasons:

I feel like there is so much pressure to do it and if you don’t then your abused and ridiculed by others. I don’t like being bullied into things just because others say I have to.

As someone who has had numerous allergic reactions to various medications I want more knowledge of the effects and long term effects first.

Ive had covid so I already have antibodies so don’t see what difference the jab will do.

Terracotta9 · 22/04/2021 10:09

Of course people are going to ask questions about a new medical intervention that we are all encouraged to get!

This whole situation is unprecedented. A pandemic which has led to unprecedented lockdowns for a year, and then an unprecedented recommendation that the entire adult population take new medical technologies which have never been rolled out on a mass scale before, and for which we lack long term safety data.

Do you really think every last person is just going to go “sure, thanks” straight away without a second thought? Really? Because that’s just unrealistic.

It’s paternalistic, and it’s also, ironically, unscientific. Robust science can withstand questioning and doubt. There is no need to censor questioning, because if the vaccine is as safe and as effective as everyone says, then that will be reflected in the outcomes we will see in the coming weeks, months, and years.

And when people have posted outright wrong information they are quickly corrected.