Anybody been invited and declined the jab?

[Devlesko]

Beginning to think I did the right thing now.
Anybody else?

The simple reason that they're shouted down and msm aren't giving them interviews is because there arguments aren't based on good science. They've been debunked many times over by experts globally.

More likely, the "debunkers have been paid to "debunk! :)

Journalists have been known to say whatever they've been paid to say, and to be silent on matters their paymasters want silenced. This is no secret.

My son-in-law has a PhD in microbiology. He agrees with both Bossche and Yeadon. Many, many impartial scientists do.
As a non-scientist I withhold judgment, but the notion that an experimental gene therapy that has not had long-term trials on humans could be dangerous -- that alone makes sense to me.

There were and are safe and effective treatments available. Doctors who testify to these treatments have been rigorously silenced and even fired from their jobs: my favourite is Dr Simone Gold, founder of America's Frontline Doctors, who speaks with such sincerity and courage I can't help but not only believe her, but cheer her on.

Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin work. They are cheap and safe. But pharmaceutical companies had/have a lot to gain by suppressing information on and the use of cheap, easy, generic drugs that are available over the counter worldwide, in favour of new technologies that can make them billions.

Why would anyone trust such companies?
Pfizer has been a "habitual offender", persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results. Since 2002 the company and its subsidiaries have been assessed 3$ billion in criminal convictions, civil penalties and jury awards.

(Google that sentence if you want links. There are many.)

Yet I am branded a crazy conspiracy theorist who doesn't trust Pfizer.
Frankly, I trust them as much as I'd trust a convicted pedophile to babysit my 6 year old daughter.

And in the end, it all comes down to trust, doesn't it. I don't trust anyone who is enriching themselves through drugs. I trust doctors who have been fired for speaking out, and nurse whistleblowers who have been threatened with dismissal if they speak out. (There are many).

I trust my own miraculous immune system.

@Parker231

For those who want to wait - what do we do in the meantime - stay with lockdown, restrictions, variants spreading?

NO. End lockdowns now. Treat people with readily available cures. Educate them about staying healthy: vitamins, good food, exercise, oxygen. Help them get over fear and panic. Stop the lies.

I'm taking 3x4000 iu of vitamin d a day, which has got my vit d levels up to 126 nmol/L. I'll be lowering that dose to a maintenance level soon.

(Nobody who doesn't have underlying medical conditions, and who has a high vitamin d level, dies from covid, or even goes into ICU. NOBODY. Vit d deficiency, ie

^^ sorry, should have edited the sentence "Ii don't think I'd even have gone for the vaccine, as I am against putting non-organic stuff into my body". I meant to say that I would not have taken the vaccine, but I believed the mainstream narrative in general and more or less agreed that lockdowns were the only way out.

@Snaffodrop

I had mine. I work with vulnerable people and support an elderly relative. I’ve had covid and really don’t want it again if possible. I was out of action for at least a month. No good for me and no help to anyone else either.

Have you monitored your vitamin d levels?

@MrsFezziwig

We have no long term safety data for any of the vaccines

So we’ll just ask Covid to tone it down a bit and only infect a small number of people every year while we pootle around gathering “long term data”? Yes, that should work.

See my post above. There ARE effective treatments for Covid19 but they have been deliberately suppressed. But if you say that our loud, you are called names: anti-vaxx, conspiracy theorist, etc.

Meanwhile, people were allowed to die by denying them safe, effective treatment.

Dr Simone Gold was told by her hospital to stop treating covid patients (effectively) with ivermectin. She persisted, spoke out, and was fired. She went on to found America's Frontline Doctors and speaks out courageously and openly. Now, AFLD has become a worldwide spearhead for vaccine truth. Google is your friend. (I'm not posting links; I'd like people to do their own research, just as I did.)

Crappytimes

I'm the same. I've never felt the fear of Covid.
I'm lucky in that lockdown has not affected me much but I've seen so many lives ruined by it and that makes me not only sad but furious.

I'm approaching the end of my fertile years and trying desperately to conceive. After the reports of it messing with your hormones, ovulation and periods I cannot take the chance so am holding off - for now.
Not against it per se but will choose my time according to my own personal circumstances.

And yes, I am also a Medical Biochemist so feel sufficiently educated to make a decision. Not that anyone should ever need to justify their academic credentials when making an important decision about their own health!

I know people are set on taking control and not doing a medical procedure as they call it but if you want a good way to stay out of hospital take the vaccine.

Just 32 people in the UK were hospitalised with Covid-19 after receiving a vaccination for the virus, a new study has found.

Research by the UK Coronavirus Clinical Characterisation found that of the 74,405 patients that were treated in hospital for coronavirus between September and March, just 32 had been given a jab at least three weeks before.

I've had my vaccine but just out of interest does anyone know if the people who are dying from Covid now in the UK are vaccinated or unvaccinated?

What if only unvaccinated people are dying from Covid would that change anyone's mind?

Disclaimer: every death from Covid is one death too many regardless of whether someone is vaccinated or not.

What if only unvaccinated people are dying from Covid would that change anyone's mind?

Not mine. I have high vitamin d levels which means a strong immune system which means I won't die from Covid.

There were and are safe and effective treatments available. Doctors who testify to these treatments have been rigorously silenced and even fired from their jobs: my favourite is Dr Simone Gold, founder of America's Frontline Doctors, who speaks with such sincerity and courage I can't help but not only believe her, but cheer her on.

Personally I'd rather reduce my risk of needing one of those 'safe and effective treatments' that apparently exist. You do realise there would also be risks to taking those?

@MarshaBradyo

I know people are set on taking control and not doing a medical procedure as they call it but if you want a good way to stay out of hospital take the vaccine.

Just 32 people in the UK were hospitalised with Covid-19 after receiving a vaccination for the virus, a new study has found.

Research by the UK Coronavirus Clinical Characterisation found that of the 74,405 patients that were treated in hospital for coronavirus between September and March, just 32 had been given a jab at least three weeks before.

I would like to know the exact figures for how many were hospitalised in the same period, without the vaccine. I would have thought those figures were quite easily available somewhere.

Look up hospitalisations for the exact dates you want?

It’s all available

@malhala - will high vitamin D levels stop you from getting ill from long Covid though...?

Plenty of people with long Covid for over a year who cannot work /study / live.

Personally I'd rather reduce my risk of needing one of those 'safe and effective treatments' that apparently exist. You do realise there would also be risks to taking those?

Actually, no. No risks, if the protocal for prescription is followed.
That's what the word "safe" means. They are available over the counter. That's how safe they are. You can buy them like aspirin.

Malaha why haven’t scientists picked up what you have and merely prescribed vitamin D?

Johnson announced at the latest press conference that there IS a medication for covid that will be available to use at home.

[quote Sitthisoneout]@malhala - will high vitamin D levels stop you from getting ill from long Covid though...?

Plenty of people with long Covid for over a year who cannot work /study / live.[/quote]
I'm not a medic, but if their immune system fought Covid off in the first place I should imagine that yes, they remain healthy.
Vaccinated people are getting ill from Covid. Will they be protected from long Covid?

@MarshaBradyo

Malaha why haven’t scientists picked up what you have and merely prescribed vitamin D?

That was EXACTLY my question when I first found out! This is why I have researched not only Vitamin D treatment, but HCQ and ivermectin.

You're on the right track! Keep on asking questions! WHY have governments not rushed to dole out high vitamin d supplements to everyone!???
The answer is right in front of you!

^ I'll give you a clue. The answer begins with V.

I'm annoyed at the level of coercion that is happening with this now.
I refused the jab citing personal reasons asking for it to be delayed. None of their business why. But it is because more and more negative side effects are being reported daily.
Days later, my DH receives a text for a jab. This is weird as he's literally had it a week ago.
I suspect this appt. is for me. Lo and behold it is. I am fuming at this.
The vaccine centre has absolved themselves of any confidentiality breach by saying GP practice provided husband's number.
That's another matter, though.
The point is that days after telling them I didn't want it, they're at me again.
I will NOT be bullied into having this. I don't give a proverbial about going on holiday, pubs, or 'footie' matches.
The letter they sent was worded as an order not a request.
This is a rushed vaccine that has not really been tested properly and I've no intention of having it for a disease that for the vast majority is trivial.

If it were ebola, I'd literally take it like a shot.

I appreciate your enthusiasm!

But there are studies into Vitamin D. If there was a cheap, easy, simple solution it would be used worldwide.

Re Vutamin D, the NHS offered free vitamin D supplements to those at higher risk of coronavirus - those who were shielding etc. It's been advised that all adults - even those not vulnerable - should take a 10mg supplement each day.

It’s interesting to see how personally people take the communication. Obviously some react in very strong ways.