45-49s jabs news, 40-44s watching and waiting thread

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Follow-on to the happy thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4210673-Can-the-40-49-age-group-now-book-their-vaccine.

(I'm jabbed, but just here to read happy news of jabs and try to book DH when it's his time.)

I'm 48 and had my first jab today - I had moderna at St Helens Rugby Grounds.

I've read one analysis that says we're running at around a million first shots every 8 days at the moment. No idea how big the 45-50 group is though and it does seem to vary considerably across the country. I noticed the main Basingstoke vaccine centre was closed yesterday first time I've driven past and not seen big queues.

I'm 42 and had a call from my GP this afternoon for a jab tomorrow morning. My 45 year old husband had his there on Monday, called and jabbed that morning. He had Pfizer, not sure what I am getting. We are West Sussex.

I think I read somewhere that the group is 4.5 million and I think 25% had already been vaccinated, so would assume 3-3.5mn still left. At 1 mn a week, it would probably be 3 weeks in total to get through this group?

Also came across an article that Moderna will be unable to fulfil its order, so I expect by the time it's turn of 40-44, there will be even more shortage of vaccines.

Does anyone know when the next lot of Pfizer is due to come? I had read something in the now redacted report from Scotland, but I cannot recall anymore.

@annarack99

I'm 42 and had a call from my GP this afternoon for a jab tomorrow morning. My 45 year old husband had his there on Monday, called and jabbed that morning. He had Pfizer, not sure what I am getting. We are West Sussex.

Congratulations !! My surgery is the last place in UK that will call up anyone ahead of schedule. The head of the practice has gone on record on twitter to state that she doesn't believe vaccine should be prioritised for fit 40 year olds!

@user34254356

I think I read somewhere that the group is 4.5 million and I think 25% had already been vaccinated, so would assume 3-3.5mn still left. At 1 mn a week, it would probably be 3 weeks in total to get through this group?

Also came across an article that Moderna will be unable to fulfil its order, so I expect by the time it's turn of 40-44, there will be even more shortage of vaccines.

Does anyone know when the next lot of Pfizer is due to come? I had read something in the now redacted report from Scotland, but I cannot recall anymore.

So 3 weeks probably worst case timeframe for 40 + group? Given that some areas have got to them already but others will have to wait for national system to move on.

Joining you all... waiting a little impatiently but trying not to show it. Almost everyone around me seems to have had theirs weeks ago.
Had stressful week as had to have more tests after blood tests found I was greeter risk of blood clots. Levels indicated above normal range of clotting agents in blood. But thankfully no clots. Staff at the hospital seemed to think it shouldn’t affect which vaccine I take. Anyone experienced similar?

Do we think they might open up national booking to 40-44 once numbers of 45+ booking start to slow? Technically it is all one age group in the vaccination priorities so they don’t have to wait to finish it. I may just be being hopeful though! I can’t imagine the vaccination centres in our county are getting many people booking as it seems like most GPs are already on under 45s (though sadly not mine)

@Eccle80

Do we think they might open up national booking to 40-44 once numbers of 45+ booking start to slow? Technically it is all one age group in the vaccination priorities so they don’t have to wait to finish it. I may just be being hopeful though! I can’t imagine the vaccination centres in our county are getting many people booking as it seems like most GPs are already on under 45s (though sadly not mine)

Yes I hope the same. My local gp is only doing second doses and husband is 43 so hoping they open it to more people soon, it was at the end of the day one big group

Does anyone know when the next lot of Pfizer is due to come?

Pfizer's deliveries have been and are coming every week - with 1.6mm doses in each batch throughout March going down to 975k in April and May.

By the end of March UK had enough Pfizer vaccines for the second doses. Everything received post April 1 (1.9mm so far with extra 975k coming next week) can be (and probably is already being) used for new vaccinations.

I had AZ in Newcastle today.

DH turned 40 last month and had a GP text today for his appointment next week! Yay!

Wintertravel, when you say they already have enough Pfizer for 2nd doses, do you mean for the whole population who will have had Pfizer by the end of rollout to have 2nd doses, or until which point please? I didn’t quite understand what you meant. Was it enough until a certain point of 1st doses which has already passed, and if so when?

It’s good that Pfizer is coming in each week and stuff for 1st doses.

I wonder if we will ever get back to 2.5-3m 1st doses per week, now that 2nd jabs require so many??

I guess that 12 weeks in from the end of March, when supply dropped, they won’t need quite so many for 2nd doses again. And after the end of July it will all be 2nd jabs, unless they are rolling out to kids and immediately moving onto boosters.

This could all become a pretty permanent cycle couldn’t it. I wonder when our interest and charting of it all will cease and it will just feel like a way of life to constantly be Covid jabbing people in a rolling programme. We don’t take much interest in the flu jab programme do we. Perhaps it will become like that, but hopefully with 1-jab vaccines to make it all so much easier or perhaps boosters are only ever 1 jab. And perhaps not everyone will her boosters and just higher risk groups or is it likely to be all...much bigger ongoing job if it is.

@annarack99

I'm 42 and had a call from my GP this afternoon for a jab tomorrow morning. My 45 year old husband had his there on Monday, called and jabbed that morning. He had Pfizer, not sure what I am getting. We are West Sussex.

I am West Sussex too. Where did your husband attend for the Pfizer jab?

@wintertravel1980

Does anyone know when the next lot of Pfizer is due to come?

Pfizer's deliveries have been and are coming every week - with 1.6mm doses in each batch throughout March going down to 975k in April and May.

By the end of March UK had enough Pfizer vaccines for the second doses. Everything received post April 1 (1.9mm so far with extra 975k coming next week) can be (and probably is already being) used for new vaccinations.

Very helpful. Thanks for posting that.

Wintertravel, when you say they already have enough Pfizer for 2nd doses, do you mean for the whole population who will have had Pfizer by the end of rollout to have 2nd doses, or until which point please?

Sorry, I should have been clearer.

UK administered 10.9mm of first doses of Pfizer vaccines by the end of February. We stopped using Pfizer for first doses in March when (i) supply from AZ accelerated and (ii) EU threatened they may cut off vaccine exports. The Pfizer deliveries continued (in fact, they were running like a clock) but all the March doses were stockpiled for follow up vaccinations.

People are often concerned that "we might not have enough Pfizer for the second doses". This is not correct - we have already got those vaccines in the UK. However, the challenge with Pfizer is logistics and distribution. Getting the second doses to the right place at the right time is non-trivial.

Thanks wintertravel. Really helpful.

Do you mean we have enough stockpiled to 2nd jab those who had first before we shifted to AZ for 1st doses in March?

Clearly Pfizer is being used again now for 1st doses. I assume we do t already have their 2nd doses sitting there too.

Great that Pfizer has been arriving as expected each week. That’s such good news.

Had a text inviting me to book on the 15th and had my jab this afternoon - it was super quick and very efficient! I'm 44, in Birmingham and had AZ. DH had AZ yesterday too and feels a bit fluey, but otherwise ok... I'm hoping any side effects will be mild.
Good luck to everyone else - I never expected to get called up so soon but our area seems to be flying through the age groups.

Do you mean we have enough stockpiled to 2nd jab those who had first before we shifted to AZ for 1st doses in March?

Yes, exactly, we have now got enough Pfizer to fully vaccinate those who got their first dose by the end of February.

The Pfizer clock was effectively "re-set" from April 1st. All the new deliveries can now be used for new 1st doses.

The good news is that Pfizer deliveries have been running timely, the bad news AZ supply got seriously disrupted during the first week of April (with the holdup of the India shipment). AZ was meant to deliver 13.8mm (!) vaccines throughout April. It is really unclear how many doses we will actually receive.

Have they opened up to 40+ in the London boroughs with the South African strain? I hope extra supply has been distributed.

Now my GP has put a message on their website saying they will not be calling or texting anyone in Group 10/Phase 2 for appointments, please follow their social media page to book in yourself when the time comes. I know most younger people have social media, but those who don't?

Obviously there are the vaccination centres not run by the PCN's but anyone not proactive and waiting for a call/letter could be missed. I think at least letters are sent from the NHS to book into the Regional Vaccination Centres.

@Cheshiresun

Now my GP has put a message on their website saying they will not be calling or texting anyone in Group 10/Phase 2 for appointments, please follow their social media page to book in yourself when the time comes. I know most younger people have social media, but those who don't?

Obviously there are the vaccination centres not run by the PCN's but anyone not proactive and waiting for a call/letter could be missed. I think at least letters are sent from the NHS to book into the Regional Vaccination Centres.

That's ridiculous, how would it harm them to send a text and then call the few people who don't have a mobile? Or have people had a text via the main booking site?

@Tealightsandd

Have they opened up to 40+ in the London boroughs with the South African strain? I hope extra supply has been distributed.

There's hardly any first dose jabs being given, I don't think there's enough to add so many people: 16-04-2021 - 119,306 15-04-2021 - 129,782 14-04-2021 - 117,835 13-04-2021 - 76,123 12-04-2021 - 59,905 11-04-2021 - 69,223

People on here in their early 40s are posting they've had the invite. There's clearly some surplus. I think it should be transferred to those London boroughs under the circumstances.

Your GP's plan seems silly CheshireSun Lots of 40s don't do social media.

That's ridiculous, how would it harm them to send a text and then call the few people who don't have a mobile? Or have people had a text via the main booking site?

I know. I've read on National guidance that all patients will get a text/letter/call from their GP when it's their turn to be invited.

Those I know in the priority groups received letters from the NHS (which is nothing to do with the GP/PCN service, our GP has said all along anyway) and also a text/call from the GP, usually at a later date. (Here the nearest vaccination Centre is 20 miles away). They have also previously said we have every right for the vaccination at the surgery, not a regional vaccination Centre. They are parallel services.