Ireland AZ over 60s only.

[anyoldtime]

It’s being reported that Ireland is going to give AZ to over 60s only. Expected announcement at 7.30pm this evening.

200K have already been vaccinated with it and while it was paused, it then resumed although they knew there were issues surrounding it when it was resumed.

I’m pleased they are being responsible but a bit late for the 200K already injected...,!

@TheKeatingFive

In ireland people over 60 will still be given AZ.

Rejection will be sky high. And even if it wasn’t, we’ll still have hundreds of thousands going to waste in the next three months, while STILL stuck in lockdown.

We will see...

Ireland has one of the highest uptakes of vaccines in the world. I think 98% of those offered the vaccine here so far have taken it.

Is there anything different in U.K. which helps us diverge from this issue?

Probably just the colossal mismanagement of the pandemic to date amplifying the need to get the vaccine programme underway quickly. The threat of being sued probably didn't outweigh the need to demonstrate that they weren't completely devoid of competence.

@paralysedbyinertia

Is there anything different in U.K. which helps us diverge from this issue?

Probably just the colossal mismanagement of the pandemic to date amplifying the need to get the vaccine programme underway quickly. The threat of being sued probably didn't outweigh the need to demonstrate that they weren't completely devoid of competence.

Ah I missed this kind of posting.

@anyoldtime

I feel reassured they ie the Irish Gov have weighed up the odds and concluded it is safer to accept the delay than continue using AZ for under 60s. I just wish they hadn’t taken so long to make the decision. They should have followed other countries earlier.

Today for the first time since 31st Dec 2020 we are allowed travel more than 5KM from our homes. We can now go 20KM and we are delighted
A few months of this and we won’t notice the longer wait.

A few months of this and we won't notice the longer wait - are you actually kidding. Maybe it feels like that for you but not for lots of people. My mum and dad have barely left their home for over a year and my mother is practically suicidal. The whole vaccine rollout has been a bloody disgrace. The risk of a bloodclot from AZ is no higher than in the general population and there is no proven link between the vaccine and blood clots. Also if you get COVID you can get a blood clot. Also the chances on getting a blood clot while being on the pill is significantly higher but that is deemed an acceptable risk.

Also agree the op reads in a really goady way

@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind

https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/articles/2021/update-following-mhra-and-ema-decisions-on-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine.html

And yes given both the MRHA and the EMA have stressed it is safe to use and the potential for blood clots is an incredibly rare side effect, I do question the motives of those countries.

This is very import information and also worth point out what it says in this article In addition, the World Health Organisation (WHO) today said that, based on current information, a causal relationship is considered plausible but is not confirmed.

There is no proof of a link to the vaccine and in normal circumstances there is no way medication/vaccination would be stopped for this level of very rare side effect (which to be clear has not been proven).

I’m at the stage of being livid about extra days of lockdown, let alone months.

I have the feeling I’ll be spending a LOT of time up north this summer. Supporting their opened economy rather than my own.

@Allmyarseandpeggymartin

Also agree the op reads in a really goady way

Yeah, the shoulder shrugging 'a few more months will make no difference' when Ireland has been in one of the longest - if not the longest - lockdowns in the world, sounds goady as f*ck to me, especially combined with the faux naive utter trust in the government to always do what is right.

This thread is a disgrace

@TheKeatingFive

I really don't blame you. It is beyond a joke. Like lots of people I haven't seen my family for over a year and even though I will be fully vaccinated next week it seems like it will be months before I can see them as I can't take 2 weeks off to quarantine.

@giantwaterbottle - why is this thread a disgrace?

I’m pleased they are being responsible but a bit late for the 200K already injected...,!

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say a) they are less likely to die of covid or be hospitalised by it so thats quite a good thing b) based on the statistics we have its likely that not single one has had a blood clot and they are going to turn out just fine and maybe stop a transmission or two to vulnerable unvaccinated people they come into close contact with.

How fucking dreadful.

FFS.

Anyone would think they had arms falling off or something or there were thousands dying in a huge scandal from the way its being framed here.

Are you Irish or living in Ireland IcedPurple?

If not, why does it matter to you if Ireland says in lockdown? Your faux concern at the plight of Irish citizens is transparent to say the least.

I hope its political/anti UK/supply issue/Pharma finance related and any other thing you can add to the conspiracy theories because I am one of the 230K who has had one injection of AZ. I reacted to it and was very reluctant to take another. I hope we will read in years to come how twenty five countries lied to their citizens and refused to give them a safe vaccine. Like the vaccine itself, only time will tell.

I also hope that all countries get through the corona virus, it isn't a race to be first. The elderly and vulnerable in every country should ideally be vaccinated before healthy under 50/60 year olds elsewhere. But it isn't an equal world. and Corona Virus is highlighting this more than ever.

@anyoldtime Purple is allowed an opinion whether she is Irish or not. I am and my family is and unlike you they would happily take an AZ vaccine if it means they can get out of lockdown and another few months might not be an issue for you but I can assure you it is for many.

Maybe you should stick to facts i.e. that IF there is a side effect it is extremely rare (significantly less risk than the contraceptive pill) and there is NO proven link as per WHO.

Not a British source.

My mind boogles over some of the decision making going on over this.

@anyoldtime

Are you Irish or living in Ireland IcedPurple?

If not, why does it matter to you if Ireland says in lockdown? Your faux concern at the plight of Irish citizens is transparent to say the least.

I hope its political/anti UK/supply issue/Pharma finance related and any other thing you can add to the conspiracy theories because I am one of the 230K who has had one injection of AZ. I reacted to it and was very reluctant to take another. I hope we will read in years to come how twenty five countries lied to their citizens and refused to give them a safe vaccine. Like the vaccine itself, only time will tell.

I also hope that all countries get through the corona virus, it isn't a race to be first. The elderly and vulnerable in every country should ideally be vaccinated before healthy under 50/60 year olds elsewhere. But it isn't an equal world. and Corona Virus is highlighting this more than ever.

If you only believe those living in Ireland have a right to comment, it's odd that you chose to post on a mainly British website. I'm sure there are Irish forums where you could be sure of having mostly Irish respondants.

The AZ vaccine is safe. The EMA, MHRA and WHO have all repeated that. The AZ vaccine is the main reason why people in Britain are today enjoying drinks in beer gardens, while you are so incredibly grateful and 'delighted' to be 'allowed' to move more than 5km from your front door, although given that almost nothing is open you'd wonder why you'd bother.

I’m shocked that they have approved the AZ only for the 60-69yr olds but for those under 69 who have already received their first dose of the AZ vaccine if they are high risk of Covid to go ahead and get their 2nd dose at 12 weeks as planned
but
Those who are not high risk “doses extended to 16weeks to allow further assessment of the benefits and risks as more evidence becomes available”
Wtf is that about?!?

I am in Ireland. Under 60 ( not by much). Would take AZ like a shot if only I was offered it.

You said on anoyher thread you had a headache for 4 days op. Hardly a reaction

With all the shaking you were doing in fright at the thought of clots weeks after having your injection I think you should probably step away from covid threads

All the shaking with fear that's been going on this year

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall
Actually a four day headache is a symptom which I had along with three other symptoms which my GP thought serious enough to send me to hospital for further investigations. You should really do some actual research rather than rely on digging through my posts though :).

I'm in Ireland and know a few people who will be relieved not to be forced into having the AZ jab. 2 of them are on warfarin.

The vaccine rollout has been slow to date and I do hope it ramps up as the government is suggesting it will. Most of my family are health care workers and have been fully vaccinated. My parents who are in their late 50s/early 60s got their second Pfizer shot last week. I would like dh who has a blood disorder to get his vaccination soon but fortunately he has been able to work from home since last March and will be able to continue until he fully vaccinated. I'm not too fussed about getting it, I'm healthy and mid 30s.

The restrictions are getting tiring at this stage though, we were laughing today at how odd it would have seemed a few years ago to be delighted to be able to go anywhere in our who county!

The vaccine rollout has been slow to date and I do hope it ramps up as the government is suggesting it will.

Well this decision is a very significant spanner in the works for that.

How’s it going to ‘ramp up’ if we reject our viable options?

We’re essentially flushing hundreds of thousands of doses down the toilet.

My parents who are in their late 50s/early 60s got their second Pfizer shot last week

Wow where are they living? My parents are mid 70's and won't have their first one for another 2 weeks.

FFS. I am/was due my first AZ injection tomorrow.

This is not going to put the rollout back by months, that is scaremongering.

Astrazeneca makes up one fifth of Ireland's vaccine supply, and this was factored into the decision. Pfizer is the workhorse here. The head of NIAC and the acting CMO said the decision would have been different if we didn't have other available vaccines.

Within the next six weeks we will receive 480k Astrazeneca vaccines. We have approximately 400k over 60s who can take them. Pfizer, Moderna and J&J will also be administered. In the next day or two the HSE will conform their plans for allocating vaccine supply.

Ronan Glynn (Acting CMO) said today that this decision should not unduly impact the rollout, and that opinion is shared by many medical experts here. It's primarily a scheduling issue and it will have some impact, but some of the comments here are ridiculous. A journalist did an analysis based on Ireland stopping AZ completely on all age groups, and found that it would only delay the rollout by two weeks.

As a woman in my late 30s I'm relieved.