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Covid has just been forgotten about then?

419 replies

washthem · 05/04/2021 08:27

My in-laws are acting like it's all disappeared over night.

Travelling to london, going out for lunches and dinners in people's houses etc.

They're vaccinated now so I suppose they don't mind.

They've all but invited themselves around to ours in a couple of weeks time!

OP posts:
5zeds · 05/04/2021 12:00

None of us felt we were at any greater risk while there were 8 of us than when there were 6 of us. We are all intelligent people and we can make our own risk assessments. Confused of course you are at “greater risk” if you meet with more people. Do you understand what “risk” is? Confused
Every person at that party will now find it easier to blur the rules. I’d be ashamed to contribute to that.

Alsohuman · 05/04/2021 12:02

Coronavirus is still very much present and coming out of lockdown is a gradual step by step process to keep cases as low as possible

You do know this is bollocks, don’t you? Sending the kids back to school was massive and MN was in a lather about the spike it was going to cause. Guess what? There wasn’t one.

Whitty said last week covid’s here to stay and we’re going to have to live with it.

MargosKaftan · 05/04/2021 12:03

Its always the people who want to get back to normal after sacrificing a whole fucking year of their lives for others that are seen as selfish. Never those who think their fear of the virus (be it reasonable due to being high risk/having high risk family members or unreasonable with noone high risk in their family) should be enough to make random strangers live a limited life for the fearful's benefit.

If you are shouting at people to behave within the rules because you fear the virus, you are being selfish. You are being all me, me, me.

You are asking other people to sacrifice their time, careers, mental health for you. From where I'm sitting, that seems pretty selfish.

tsmainsqueeze · 05/04/2021 12:03

They are vaccinated , what more can they do than full vaccination ? we were led to believe vaccines are the answer ,are they expected to isolate forever ?
Good for them , we have been ruled by fear for far to long , I'm not in denial , i had the virus , and have had 1st vaccine .
My heart goes out to those who have lost loved ones ,but we can't live like this much longer.
Besides what kind of a lockdown has it been anyway, there have been plenty of places open , makes a bit of a mockery really .

Branleuse · 05/04/2021 12:04

Theyre allowed to, and have been vaccinated, so im.not sure why you want them to.continue staying home?

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:05

@SmidgenofaPigeon

What I mean is, I’m not getting up on arms about people seeing family inside when next Monday, I could go and get my hair done, nails done then go around every shop I fancied 🤷🏻‍♀️
You cannot compare people mixing in private homes and people going to have their hair done.

In hairdressers etc, there are procedures in place to socially distance from other clients, and surfaces are cleaned. Also, staff and clients wear masks.

Are people doing this in a private home? I doubt it.

And even if people are vaccinated, (I am) we could still be infected but not have symptoms, and pass it on to the unvaccinated.

Being vaccinated doesn't mean you can't infect others, it just reduces the risk compared to being unvaccinated, and reduces your own risk of being very ill if you catch it.

CaesarsDream · 05/04/2021 12:05

Have had Covid. Have also received 1st and 2nd vaccinations.

I obey all the rules. Stick to my support bubble, stay in the area, wear a mask, etc
...
And if I had mixed with friends over these holidays, in their gardens or at a park, I really don't believe that would make a damn difference to the R rate.

How long can we continue to keep shutting down and reopening everything? The 'rules' are extremely contradictory and are ultimately far more damaging than Covid itself. 🙄

The martyrdom of some is laughable.

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:07

@Branleuse

Theyre allowed to, and have been vaccinated, so im.not sure why you want them to.continue staying home?
They aren't allowed. They can go out but not mix in other people's homes.

Because there are no vaccine passports.
If you want to say those who are vaccinated can do X and those who are not must stick with Y, how would that work?

Very few people have had 2 vaccines yet. The first one has something like 65-70+ efficacy, not 100%.

TristantheTyrannosaurus · 05/04/2021 12:08

So people who are fully vaccinated still need to be locked up? Right. That's so going to work.

Sansaplans · 05/04/2021 12:08

If you want to say those who are vaccinated can do X and those who are not must stick with Y, how would that work?

Do you think there will ever be vaccine passports to go into someone's private home?

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:08

You do know this is bollocks, don’t you?

So you are a scientific expert on virus and transmission?

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:09

@Sansaplans

If you want to say those who are vaccinated can do X and those who are not must stick with Y, how would that work?

Do you think there will ever be vaccine passports to go into someone's private home?

No of course not. That's why we have a blanket rule/ law at the moment saying wait until the numbers are lower.
TristantheTyrannosaurus · 05/04/2021 12:09

LOL @ not 'allowed' to do what they please in their own bloody homes. Just, hilarious. Right up there with the government trying go ban sex last year. That so works.

UrAWizHarry · 05/04/2021 12:09

"They can go out but not mix in other people's homes."

For no justifiable reason. Once people have been vaccinated they should be able to mix with others freely. Otherwise what's the fucking point?

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:09

@TristantheTyrannosaurus

So people who are fully vaccinated still need to be locked up? Right. That's so going to work.
That's silly comment. They are not locked up.
TristantheTyrannosaurus · 05/04/2021 12:11

'We'. Nah, I'm done with that shit. Seems a lot of people are, too.

yoyo1234 · 05/04/2021 12:11

I won't have in laws/parents in my house yet. It's not allowed and do not eldest to risk getting it.

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:12

For no justifiable reason. Once people have been vaccinated they should be able to mix with others freely. Otherwise what's the fucking point?

You just don't understand.

Mylovelyhorsee · 05/04/2021 12:13

We need to get on with life, a year on hold is enough. We can’t live in fear forever, it’s just going to be one of those things we get used to. Most people who get it are fine, it’s just life.

TristantheTyrannosaurus · 05/04/2021 12:14

Whatever, Jingle. People are cracking on doing as they please in their own homes and no one's really going to stop it, no matter how much it bothers some. That's too bad. People have had enough. It's a lovely day here, but too cold to sit freezing outside so won't be doing that.

JinglingHellsBells · 05/04/2021 12:14

@TristantheTyrannosaurus

'We'. Nah, I'm done with that shit. Seems a lot of people are, too.
Good for you.

But not everyone thinks like you do.

LittleBearPad · 05/04/2021 12:15

@Chloemol

Same old same old on here all the posters saying no problems, good for them, I do it as well

No wonder it’s taken so long to get to where we are. Why can’t people just hold off for a few more weeks to allow the vaccination programme to finish?

Don’t forget even with the jab you can still transmit it, and still catch it albeit with a much reduced rate

Why take the chance of being a carrier and passing it onto those who have not been vaccinated

Some selfish people around, it’s all me, me me

Because in a few weeks some posters will start going on about booster vaccines in the autumn.

It’s not known if you can transmit the virus once vaccinated but it’s thought unlikely. That’s very different to knowing you can and you are protected from serious disease. Lockdown was to protect the NHS. It’s been protected.

puffinkoala · 05/04/2021 12:15

OP with respect it sounds like you simply need to grow a pair. You are not yet happy having people in your house, so tell them that. You don't need to justify it - if they want to see you, you can meet in a nearby outside space. That's the choice you give them: outdoors or not at all.

UrAWizHarry · 05/04/2021 12:16

@JinglingHellsBells

For no justifiable reason. Once people have been vaccinated they should be able to mix with others freely. Otherwise what's the fucking point?

You just don't understand.

And yet you can't explain why, if I'm vaccinated and my folks are vaccinated you can justify why we shouldn't see each other compared to in a few weeks or even compared to in a public place.

In my home, i know exactly who is coming and going. I know whether they are sick or not, if they have had COVID or not, if they've been vaccinated or not.

Going to the hairdresser I have none of that information, and yet that is somehow safer? Pull the fucking other one.

puffinkoala · 05/04/2021 12:17

So people who are fully vaccinated still need to be locked up? Right. That's so going to work

Obviously it's not going to work. But the government can hardly say to the over 80s that they can go out and party while 18 year olds are still locked up, or indeed late 40 somethings not yet vaccinated. It will happen, and you turn a blind eye, but you can't make it an official policy.