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Can the 40-49 age group now book their vaccine?

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Summergirl76 · 04/04/2021 22:16

Sister’s boyfriend (43) was able today to book his vaccine by entering his details on the national booking site (he is Derby based). Sister late 30s tried too but it said she was not eligible. Her husband tried last week and was also not eligible. Just wondered if anyone else has tried in the 40s age group and been able to book?

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daisiesinmay · 12/04/2021 16:39

I've just managed to book using the website (49) over the moon

mrsknottschicken · 12/04/2021 16:40

@Pearl97

How many times have you tried to book today? I have tried more times than I can remember!!!!
Haha! A few! I’m 45, so I wonder if I’ll be in the first age group when they open up or if it’ll be 49 year olds, then 48 year olds and so on. I’ve not really enjoyed turning 40 and then inching towards mid-40s, so something good has to come out of this Grin
EasterIssland · 12/04/2021 16:43

Congrats @daisiesinmay

WombatChocolate · 12/04/2021 16:50

It’s hard to know isn’t it. There have been reports in the last week saying BAME hesitancy had halved, if I remember correctly.

There is also the issue that compared to some areas, London has a young population. Perhaps as a proportion of the population there are less vulnerable. Some areas of the Midlands and North have perhaps more entrenched and deep rooted issues of deprivation which maybe are a bigger concern. Covid has been high in London but for short spikes of time whereas other areas have sustained periods of high Covid which seem very hard to shake. And finally, London is perhaps always a bit of a different case. Lots of resources are thrown at London and it seems problems can be addressed more quickly whilst some of the seaside towns or post industrial towns seem to struggle more with their difficulties, not having the big positives London can also bring to the table.

Expo, who is a GP commented up thread and said I was ‘spot on’ with my analysis.

To be honest, I don’t know. I’m just finding it fascinating as it all rolls out and the nuances appear and we get certain comms about it and certain inconsistencies and variations. I think that whilst there is a broad brush rollout which we know about in terms of cohorts based mostly on age, there is a huge amount we don’t know about in terms of varying supply and supply to different areas and a lot more nuance in the system than we might know or would all feel happy about. As individuals , we are very interereted in ourselves being jabbed (if we are on these threads) and our family and also about the fairness of the system, which we particularly focus on when we feel we are losing out...entirely normal. The big and complex rollout picture looks to reduce the risk to the NHS of hospitalisation and death of vulnerables and to low the economy to get up and running and schools to open and people to feel safe moving forward. These different goals don’t all need the exact same rollout and the priorities which are voiced or we feel are important (like fairness and transparency) might not be top of what the government want and some if their aims within this might be deeply unpopular and so remain largely unvoiced. I mentioned health equality earlier. It’s a huge issue for government....the impact of certain areas and groups suffering Covid more and taking up the vaccine less. Most people think it only impacts those people but government has to address it as it impacts all of us I directly. But it’s not an easy message or the one most people will be able to fully buy into. An age-based system is one they can.

WombatChocolate · 12/04/2021 16:51

Daisies, that’s great news. I know you’ve been trying for ages.

Let’s see now if other 49s can....and what about 48s too or even 47s. Perhaps if people say their age and rough area that would be so helpful for lots of people.

Exciting news.

kittykarate · 12/04/2021 16:51

I've just booked - 48, South Manchester. Off to Whalley Range tomorrow (Free stabbin' with every Jabbin' )

Pearl97 · 12/04/2021 16:52

Wow @daisiesinmay that’s fab news. I still can’t

Tealightsandd · 12/04/2021 16:52

Brilliant news some of you can book now!

On hesitancy (sorry, think it's behind a pay wall but I've copied and pasted the headlines):
www.ft.com/content/52d2bd7d-f4cf-4fa7-918f-976a8cf162d9
London lags behind as the UK’s vaccine rollout gathers pace...Hesitancy among ethnic minorities, deprivation and health inequalities may explain lower uptake of jab

WombatChocolate · 12/04/2021 16:52

Hurrah! 49 and 48.

Redcrayons · 12/04/2021 16:54

It’s open for me to book 🎉
There’s no centres anywhere near 😬

mrsknottschicken · 12/04/2021 16:55

So glad some of you can book. I just tried again but can’t yet.

Stylinson · 12/04/2021 16:55

Won’t let me book - I’m 47 and in London

Pearl97 · 12/04/2021 16:56

Have you all been trying and couldn’t, but now can?

Emred · 12/04/2021 16:56

I couldnt book (48)

Archiduchesse · 12/04/2021 16:57

It won't let me book - age 48 in Cheshire.

WombatChocolate · 12/04/2021 17:00

Perhaps it will take a few hours for all areas to add people.

How far off in time and distance are the booking options? Red crayons, how far would you have to travel and will you? If you can you could book and maybe get a closer one if it comes up later??

Tealightsandd · 12/04/2021 17:01

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-areas-with-the-highest-and-lowest-coronavirus-vaccination-rates-for-over-50s-revealed-12269746
London local authorities are at the bottom of the list

Percentage of over 50s done. London lags behind. Young population maybe, but with 9 million in total more elderly (and other vulnerable) than anywhere else.

kittykarate · 12/04/2021 17:04

I had tried to book at 2pm or so when the Guardian article was published and it didn't work for me then, so just tried on the offchance after daisiesinmay had their success.

Oh - a bit more detail, I'm 48 and 7 months (maybe they are doing it in a weird way like 'will you be 49 at this arbitrary point in the year?')

Redcrayons · 12/04/2021 17:05

Spoke to soon.
Just tried again and I’m all booked in for this week.

I’m 49 and 3/4

Andrewsgirl · 12/04/2021 17:05

Just tried to book my husband, he’s 47, we’re in the SE and can’t book yet.

kittykarate · 12/04/2021 17:06

Yay! Congrats RedCrayons

Redcrayons · 12/04/2021 17:06

Also to add, first time I went in, there were only a couple of pharmacies. Every time I refreshed more were added.

RedToothBrush · 12/04/2021 17:08

I'm just looking this up on the latest data released on the 8th April
(see www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/)

By Region everywhere is between 86 and 89% for the 50 - 54 age group apart from London. The pattern is similar for all the other age groups. We know that the eldest age groups have been offered the vaccine and there is a similar problem despite this.

By Integrated Care System (ICS) / Sustainability Transformation Partnership (STP) level (thats the next level down in health authorities from regional) the average for the 50 - 54 age group is 87%. The areas with over 90% are as follows in order by highest first:

Buckinghamshire, Oxfordshire and Berkshire West
Coventry and Warwickshire
Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire
Devon
Bath and North East Somerset, Swindon and Wiltshire
Staffordshire and Stoke on Trent
Norfolk and Waveney Health and Care Partnership
Cambridgeshire and Peterborough
Hampshire and the Isle of Wight
Surrey Heartlands Health and Care Partnership

The worst areas (under the average) are in order of worst:
North London Partners in Health and Care
East London Health and Care Partnership
North West London Health and Care Partnership
Our Healthier South East London
South West London Health and Care Partnership
Cumbria and North East
Greater Manchester Health and Social Care Partnership
Birmingham and Solihull
Kent and Medway
The Black Country and West Birmingham

The first two were notably lower at 76% and 78.3% (everywhere else in the above list is above 80%).

The next level down is CCG. Again the average is 87% for the 50 - 54 year group.
The best performers are South Warkwickshire on 95.7%.
Those over 90% are as follows in order: NHS South Warwickshire CCG, NHS Oxfordshire CCG, NHS Portsmouth CCG, NHS Leicester City CCG, NHS North Hampshire CCG, NHS St Helens CCG, NHS Milton Keynes CCG, NHS North East Hampshire and Farnham CCG, NHS Telford and Wrekin CCG, NHS Berkshire West CCG, NHS South East Staffordshire and Seisdon Peninsula CCG, NHS Herts Valleys CCG, NHS Wakefield CCG, NHS Vale of York CCG, NHS West Hampshire CCG, NHS Surrey Heath CCG, NHS Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire CCG, NHS Mid Essex CCG, NHS Cannock Chase CCG, NHS North Staffordshire CCG, NHS Devon CCG, NHS Bath and North East Somerset, Swindon and Wiltshire CCG, NHS Brighton and Hove CCG, NHS Coventry and Rugby CCG, NHS Rotherham CCG, NHS South Eastern Hampshire CCG, NHS North East Essex CCG, NHS Norfolk and Waveney CCG, NHS Cambridgeshire and Peterborough CCG, NHS Stafford and Surrounds CCG, NHS Chorley and South Ribble CCG, NHS Leeds CCG, NHS Halton CCG, NHS Buckinghamshire CCG, NHS Warrington CCG, NHS Surrey Heartlands CCG and NHS Greater Preston CCG

The bottom of the list looks like this:
NHS Central London (Westminster) CCG, NHS West London CCG, NHS City and Hackney CCG, NHS Tower Hamlets CCG, NHS North Central London CCG, NHS Waltham Forest CCG, NHS Northumberland CCG, NHS Newham CCG, NHS North Tyneside CCG
NHS Hammersmith and Fulham CCG, NHS Brent CCG, NHS Redbridge CCG

These are all lower than 80%. Central London is lowest on 60.2% and West London on 68.3% followed by City and Hackney on 73.3%. But again there is a consistent lower take up ACROSS age groups in these areas. It looks more like an acute lack of take up rather than a lack of distribution happening.

Where it is much more interesting is on a ward level. There is data for the number of people under 50 who have had the vaccine. I've just stuck it through excel to give a percentage of vaccines given in that ward for those under 50.

Right at the top is Central & Islington. 78% of vaccines have been given to those under 50. Also over 70% are Leeds City Centre, Selly Oak, Cathedral & Kelham, University & Little Woodhouse, Hyde Park (Leeds). If I'm not mistaken all student areas.

Over 60% are Leicester City Centre, Leicester City South, Lenton & Dunkirk, Pier Head, Devonshire Quarter, University North & Whitworth Street, Piccadilly & Ancoats, Central, Castlefield & Deansgate, Olympic Park & Mill Meads, Hyde Park Corner & Woodhouse Cliff, Fallowfield Central and Headingley. Again something of a pattern here.

Pretty much anywhere above 50% is either a student area or well known for having a particularly young population.

Those where under 20% of vaccines have been given to under 50s generally look like middling areas in terms of affluence in provisional areas (not cities) where populations tend to be above average in age and tend to not to be first time buyer type areas.

I have to say looking through this breakdown its a) much more even and fairer than I was expecting. b) where there is significant numbers of under 50s vaccinated there seems to be a geographical argument based on demographics to be made to justify this.

The real issue seems to be in London purely with people not taking up vaccines rather than there being a distribution issue. I guess delays there may be more to do with trying to chase that up rather than because there is less vaccine available.

So I am left feeling that actually they are doing a pretty good job of being as consistent as possible across England. It would be hard to do a much better job than this in reality. Its pretty damn balanced when all is said and done.

WombatChocolate · 12/04/2021 17:08

Wouldn’t we love to have a mole in the system who is adding people to the national booking system as we speak. They could tell us who and where is being added....and when.
Someone somewhere must be doing this work.

Sorry....carried away.

Pearl97 · 12/04/2021 17:09

So we’re thinking 48 and 49’s should be able to book soon. What a day ladies!!!!