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Can the 40-49 age group now book their vaccine?

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Summergirl76 · 04/04/2021 22:16

Sister’s boyfriend (43) was able today to book his vaccine by entering his details on the national booking site (he is Derby based). Sister late 30s tried too but it said she was not eligible. Her husband tried last week and was also not eligible. Just wondered if anyone else has tried in the 40s age group and been able to book?

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Eccle80 · 14/04/2021 12:23

I’m finding things frustrating locally, a surgery in the next town was doing a clinic for 35+ yesterday, the other surgeries in my town were as low as 41 or 42 on Monday, but mine isn’t even doing a clinic for late 40s until the end of next week, so I’m guessing it is still weeks away for me. Between that and some GPs doing asthmatics when mine aren’t I feel like I have been left behind.

myrtleWilson · 14/04/2021 12:29

Just back from doing some covid community champion work to support a drop in clinic in the NE today. I'd say 95% of the people I engaged with had received at least one vaccination so good results!

RaptorInaPorkPieHat · 14/04/2021 13:14

@Blondiney

Quick update for those wondering whether to wait for GP to invite to prevent the n3ed to travel.

I was accepted on the NHS website on Monday but decided not to book as the locations were a faff to get to. GP just texted to invite me to get it at my local doctor's surgery. Much easier.

Glad I waited a whole 2 days. Grin

My DH also decided to wait..... He got the phone call at 9am this morning and the jab (pfizer) at 11 at our local hospital 10 mins walk away.

I booked monday evening (and I'm still glad I did) and am having mine tomorrow (1 1/2 hour round trip in the car).

He's looking a bit smug Wink

All in all, no complaints. The idea that we'd both have had our vaccines by the end of this week when there was no sign of them at the start of it, is wonderful Smile

mrsknottschicken · 14/04/2021 13:15

@Blessex

I just had my AZ. *@mrsknottschicken* why would you have preferred moderna? They both give 100% protection against severe disease. Is that not enough for you? Honestly I think how bloody lucky we are in this country to get any of them.
I'm not sure why your tone is sarcastic - it's okay to voice that you may have had a preference, as many others have. I'm not sure if you noticed, but I've also said repeatedly that I will happily take whatever jab is offered.

I would have preferred Moderna because it appears to be more effective against the SA variant.

And yes, you're right that we're lucky. I've said that before as well. And if your tone was not meant to be sarcastic then I apologise!

WombatChocolate · 14/04/2021 13:24

People are likely to find the GP invitations dry up in the next day or two. There were no new deliveries to GPs for 1st jabs week of 12 or 19 April. It means they are just running 1 or 2 1st jab clinic to use up stock they had before. That’s why most if the invitations are for immediately.

So if you are holding out for local and it doesn’t come Today or tomorrow, assume you probably won’t get one for another 10 days at least.

With previous cohorts, GP services and national services were jabbing away together. Although some GPs have a little bit to use up, rememebr supply is low for 1st jabs generally and most of it is with national booking centre sites.

You might be more likely to get offered GP appt if aged 49/48 rather than closer to 45 as most won’t have enough to over it to all.

Marjoriesdoor · 14/04/2021 13:30

Can I just jump on and say that I love this thread and am basically using it as a news source of when my age group is likely to be eligible. I check here more often than BBC news these days! Thanks!

user34254356 · 14/04/2021 13:30

Anyone know of sites in London offering Moderna or Pfizer?

user34254356 · 14/04/2021 13:38

@Marjoriesdoor

Can I just jump on and say that I love this thread and am basically using it as a news source of when my age group is likely to be eligible. I check here more often than BBC news these days! Thanks!
Same here and it's lovely to know so many have already managed to get vaccinated in the last few days !!
Iknowtheanswer · 14/04/2021 13:47

Done 😁
Did sting, though, and bled a bit. My fault for choosing a white top today...

Blessex · 14/04/2021 13:52

@mrsknottschicken my tone is sarcastic because I find it so first world privileged to be picking and choosing between vaccines that ALL give 100% protection against serious disease when people are dying all over the world because they don’t have access to one. Am sitting on a call now with some Indian colleagues about to go into a hard lockdown around about now because it is out of control in India. Their family members are sick. And here we are quibbling about which jab we would like please. Oh I don’t want that one - it’s only 100% effective against severe disease. Give me more more more more more.

Tealightsandd · 14/04/2021 13:53

@Ceara

My GP surgery cancelled booked vaccination clinics last week and this week and postponed the appointments by a week or so. Assume vaccine supply issue? though there could be an unrelated reason. I have booked through the national website and I think it may be a while before my GP gets to my age group.
Are you in London? That happened to family friends (elderly) for their second dose. They were called the night before to cancel. Eventually got it done at 13 weeks.

Assume the postcode lottery - at a local, rather than regionally level, going by posts here - is continuing.

TriSarahTops · 14/04/2021 13:56

I’m now within the age range that can book via the NHS site. Loads of available appointments for the first jab within the local area (the local vaccination hub is less than a mile away), but absolutely nothing within 30 miles for the second appointment. Meaning I can’t book (I don’t have a car, and there is nothing anywhere I can reasonably get to by train). It’s very frustrating.

LacyEdge · 14/04/2021 14:00

For those still struggling to get an appointment because there never seems to be a 2nd slot available, keep trying. It was like that for me all day yesterday, but I’ve managed to book both now. First is next Wednesday, about 12 miles away.

Thank you everyone who contributed to this thread, and good luck everyone still trying to get appointments Brew

Friolero · 14/04/2021 14:00

@TriSarahTops

I’m now within the age range that can book via the NHS site. Loads of available appointments for the first jab within the local area (the local vaccination hub is less than a mile away), but absolutely nothing within 30 miles for the second appointment. Meaning I can’t book (I don’t have a car, and there is nothing anywhere I can reasonably get to by train). It’s very frustrating.
Could you book both appointments and then once you've been for your first one cancel the second one and keep checking to see if anything nearer comes up?
Tealightsandd · 14/04/2021 14:05

It's a bit of a lazy ignorant myth that loads of Londoners are second owners. It's an extremely tiny minority.

Also, if we're talking about the 74+ age group, second home owners are not always but often not London born and bred (it's often people who came to London from other parts of the UK buying somewhere back home to retire to).

The over 74s in London are more likely to be London born and bred because mass movement into London only really started happening in significant numbers with the generations that came next.

I know the mayor, Sadiq Khan, complained in January about London receiving a lower share of vaccines, so that's another reason. The slower start.

Add in high hesitancy rates and the sheer numbers of people (more than anywhere else in the UK of all ages), there you have it. The reasons why it's slower.

ExpulsoCorona explained why the high hesitancy rates mean it's taking so long to get through age groups in London upthread.

mrsknottschicken · 14/04/2021 14:05

[quote Blessex]@mrsknottschicken my tone is sarcastic because I find it so first world privileged to be picking and choosing between vaccines that ALL give 100% protection against serious disease when people are dying all over the world because they don’t have access to one. Am sitting on a call now with some Indian colleagues about to go into a hard lockdown around about now because it is out of control in India. Their family members are sick. And here we are quibbling about which jab we would like please. Oh I don’t want that one - it’s only 100% effective against severe disease. Give me more more more more more.[/quote]
But that isn’t what I said in my earlier posts. At all.

So your tone was completely unjustified. All along, I’ve said I am extremely grateful to be getting anything at all. That is not “picking and choosing”. “Picking and choosing” would have been turning up at the appointment and rejecting a certain vaccine. Which is not what I did. Or would ever do.

I’ll repeat it again, in case you didn’t get it the first time - I’m very grateful. And lucky.

There is really no need to lash out at strangers on an Internet forum like that. Especially when I’ve said all along I appreciate how very lucky we are to have a good vaccination programme. You should read other people’s posts more carefully or perhaps reconsider your tone.

WombatChocolate · 14/04/2021 14:06

Some people find trying a less popular destination for their first means it works.

Yes, you could book 2 and after first fo into ‘manage my appointments’ if necessary.

Lots of people are realising they need to be prepared to travel further than they’d like. Availability could improve as more slots are added, but given we are in the middle of the limited supply time, you can’t rely on that.

Tealightsandd · 14/04/2021 14:10

You might be more likely to get a GP appt if aged 49/48 rather than closer to 45 as most won't have enough to cover it all

The posts upthread about Birmingham. Some GPs are running clinics for 35+ whilst others are only just starting on 45+. Wouldn't it make sense, in cases of very local postcode lottery, for the GPs with surplus to send it to the ones struggling with supply? It's not as if it's a long journey across the regions.

LacyEdge · 14/04/2021 14:30

Has anyone 45+ who booked this week— and has already been jabbed— been given Pfizer? Or has it all been AZ and Moderna?

WombatChocolate · 14/04/2021 14:36

I dont think they divert supply once it’s delivered. It would be another logistical step and thing to be organised and often it’s not clear far in advance if there will be surplus as people often don’t book far in advance.

As people talked about earlier on the thread, it seems they are keeping an eye on overall uptake in a geographical area, as well as age uptake. Those areas who are reportedly running a clinic for 1st doses for 35s (and you wonder if they are all 35s or there just are some who are included) might be areas where uptake in older groups has been lower and there has been hesitancy. They could be areas of the city with higher proportions of people at risk with things like high BMI or other risk factors such as higher proportion BAME populations, or men working in occupations identified as at risk. The JCVI guidance issued yesterday talked about using an age based distrbution system for operational simplicity reasons and that this system would allow faster overall vaccination, but also gives GPs much more control now in terms of exercising discretion for their local context, and to make judgements in calling people forward to mitigate risk in local areas. Men 45+ shown to have higher risk of hospitalisation than women by almost double rates. If coupled with high BMI and work that has taken place outside the home through lockdown the risks are higher. Some areas have younger populations, but more if the older group have declined the jab leaving the area overall more vulnerable. Rolling out to younger groups, while older people in other areas of higher jab rates remain unvaccinated can make sense. The lower take up area ends up with roughly equal numbers vaccinated and jabbing some younger people quicker, partly compensates for those who declined form older groups. In areas with high take up, the 40s who are waiting are keen....they will take the jab as soon as it’s offered...perhaps this week or next week, but the decision makers know those areas will remain high in take up and don’t need the level of input and earlier rollout than some other areas.

The rollout is broadly based on age groups. The national booking system is allowing all to book who are 45+ now. I think we will see more local variation as we move through phase 2 once supply increases. GPs are being given just a bit more flexibility to call people forward. They can do so based on occupational risk or ethnicity or using techniques which will boost take-up in groups that might be hesitant. For example there was a suggestion of calling a whole household together where it is a multi-generational home and some have been hesitant...this could work to help the hesitant come forward if coming with their household members.

I think there is an encouragement to be more creative and permission to be so, within the broad realms of the age rollout. And we should remember too, that GPs just don’t have large quantities if jabs for 1st doses anyway. These clinics for 1st jabs will very much be the minority. Most GP led clinics are 2nd jabs.

Those keen for 1st jabs should expect to book on national booking site and to travel some distance if they want it sooner and not to wait for GPs to get more supply after 26 April, as over the next day or 2, GP led invitations will dry up in most areas as they have used up all they have to offer to 45+ first dose people for now.

YoutubeZoom · 14/04/2021 14:39

Our GP surgery website in NE says that you should only contact them with vaccine queries if you are 65+, so waiting for them would have been pointless.
DH's appointment is in Boots, so he must be getting AZ. Mine is a large vaccination centre, so who can say what I will get. (AZ most likely)

Tealightsandd · 14/04/2021 14:47

I agree WombatChocolate that people in areas of high hesitancy remain vulnerable. But I'm confused then why London, on the frontline of the South African (and any new strain from abroad), with its huge deprivation (a major factor in increasing vulnerability) isn't doing the same as you describe in other areas of high hesitancy. ExpulsoCorona has explained that high hesitancy is slowing down the rollout to other groups. I guess it's purely down to numbers? The sheer number of people in London might make that discretionary rollout more difficult?

daisiesinmay · 14/04/2021 15:02

LacyEdge AZ. But people on here had Moderna at Reading

EasterIssland · 14/04/2021 15:06

@user34254356

Anyone know of sites in London offering Moderna or Pfizer?
@user34254356 just because they're offering them today, doesn't mean they'll the day you have to attend your appointment. I volunteer at my local GP and they keep changing every week from pfizer to az and pfizer , It depends on what arrives then that's what they use
mrsknottschicken · 14/04/2021 15:10

@EasterIssland I am quite curious about this...how do they plan the second dose appointments bearing this in mind. I find the logistics of it all quite amazing. My second dose is booked and it's weeks away...so how do they know what they are going to get, and what happens if it's not the one you had the first time around?