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Your position on Covid lockdowns

301 replies

kellehi · 28/03/2021 20:48

Well, I have seen a lot of people on here changing as the wind blows and the government continues to move the goalposts with respect to lockdowns, and so the same happens here. So just wondering what your position on this will be in the future, if X happens.

Please start your post with the relevant number below, you can expand on this if you want, but not necessary.

1 - we should end the lockdown and open things up now.
2 - we should open up as originally promised on 21 June, regardless of the government position
3 - we should end the lockdown and open things up when everyone over 18 who wants a vaccine can have one
4 - we should end the lockdown and open things up when adults are vaccinated
5 - we should end the lockdown and open things up when every person including adults and children are vaccinated
6 - I think some element of lockdown should continue indefinitely whenever the government says it's required, even if it means years waiting.

Thanks

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 29/03/2021 22:30

1 or 2 for me. Lockdown is to prevent the nhs breaching and we are a long way from that. We need to open up. I’m happy with the cautious road map the government has laid out though, with 21 June, everything open.

Newmama29 · 29/03/2021 22:34
  1. I can’t live this way anymore. I can’t live in a world where people are so passive aggressive to one another over “rules”. Where I can’t sit in the house with a friend & have a cup of tea. Where I can’t just go a wander round a shopping centre when the weather’s crap. I literally cannot go on another fucking walk as a day out. I’m truly over this environment we’re living in.
PrincessNutNuts · 29/03/2021 22:39

@cantkeepawayforever >nods

HopelessBlue192 · 29/03/2021 22:46

1/2

Dowser · 29/03/2021 23:06

@cantkeepawayforever

None of the above.

Keep as wide a range of tools available to manage the virus and its impact as possible:

  • Vaccination - ongoing and booster
  • Treatment - existing and new
  • Research - well-funded and wide-ranging
  • Testing - a properly accurate rapid test would be really useful
  • Proper contact tracing
  • Public health responses, including closing and cleaning institutions, quarantine etc
  • Hospital and ICU capacity - a system that creaks in a normal year is always going to struggle at times during a pandemic. Extra routine capacity AND surge capacity, in terms of space, equipment and people, will lessen both the impact of Covid itself and the knock on effects on other treatments.
  • Physical barriers to transmission where required - PPE, face coverings, distancing.
  • Isolation of infected individuals and potentially their contacts
  • Ultra-local, local, regional and at the last resort national restrictions, which could include lockdowns.

Making this a 'vaccination vs lockdown' debate is simple-minded at best and dangerous at worst.

When you said tools..I thought guns..to keep away the looters when the shit really hits the fan 😂
Wildswim · 29/03/2021 23:23

@Newmama29

1. I can’t live this way anymore. I can’t live in a world where people are so passive aggressive to one another over “rules”. Where I can’t sit in the house with a friend & have a cup of tea. Where I can’t just go a wander round a shopping centre when the weather’s crap. I literally cannot go on another fucking walk as a day out. I’m truly over this environment we’re living in.
This

We've lost our freedoms. It's terrifying and must end.

WouldBeGood · 29/03/2021 23:24

1

WouldBeGood · 29/03/2021 23:24

@Newmama29

1. I can’t live this way anymore. I can’t live in a world where people are so passive aggressive to one another over “rules”. Where I can’t sit in the house with a friend & have a cup of tea. Where I can’t just go a wander round a shopping centre when the weather’s crap. I literally cannot go on another fucking walk as a day out. I’m truly over this environment we’re living in.
Totally agree
Worldgonecrazy · 30/03/2021 06:17

1

Lockdown doesn’t work, and was put in place to ‘protect the NHS’

The NHS has capacity, and those areas with highest rates of infection are the areas that have had greatest and longest restrictions.

The scientists know the drivers of infection are hospitals, care homes, and outside of those, poverty and deprivation.

millenialblush · 30/03/2021 06:25

1 - the elderly and vulnerable are vaccinated, everyone else who wants a vaccine can get one. Theres been no peak since schools went back so no need to wait for kids to have the vaccine. To be honest I'm very interested in the new data coming out almost daily that shows theres no real difference between places that have locked down and those that didnt.

Witchesbelazy · 30/03/2021 06:57

1

SpringerJS · 30/03/2021 07:06

1/2, and we should never have lockdown again.

WankmasterBastardDeLaShithead · 30/03/2021 07:36

1

Whatalottachocca · 30/03/2021 07:43
  1. In capitals and bold type, underlined. Oh, and with a circle round it. 😉
DontFaffAboutWills · 30/03/2021 08:10

@cantkeepawayforever

None of the above.

Keep as wide a range of tools available to manage the virus and its impact as possible:

  • Vaccination - ongoing and booster
  • Treatment - existing and new
  • Research - well-funded and wide-ranging
  • Testing - a properly accurate rapid test would be really useful
  • Proper contact tracing
  • Public health responses, including closing and cleaning institutions, quarantine etc
  • Hospital and ICU capacity - a system that creaks in a normal year is always going to struggle at times during a pandemic. Extra routine capacity AND surge capacity, in terms of space, equipment and people, will lessen both the impact of Covid itself and the knock on effects on other treatments.
  • Physical barriers to transmission where required - PPE, face coverings, distancing.
  • Isolation of infected individuals and potentially their contacts
  • Ultra-local, local, regional and at the last resort national restrictions, which could include lockdowns.

Making this a 'vaccination vs lockdown' debate is simple-minded at best and dangerous at worst.

This.
User133847 · 30/03/2021 08:16

We should have a gradual, phased return to normal, but certain restrictions should stay until all adults have been offered a jab.

I don't want to be forced back to a busy office for example - without the current safety measures - until i've at least had a vaccine. At least it's my choice whether I go to a busy pub or not.

HazeyJaneII · 30/03/2021 08:23

@cantkeepawayforever

None of the above.

Keep as wide a range of tools available to manage the virus and its impact as possible:

  • Vaccination - ongoing and booster
  • Treatment - existing and new
  • Research - well-funded and wide-ranging
  • Testing - a properly accurate rapid test would be really useful
  • Proper contact tracing
  • Public health responses, including closing and cleaning institutions, quarantine etc
  • Hospital and ICU capacity - a system that creaks in a normal year is always going to struggle at times during a pandemic. Extra routine capacity AND surge capacity, in terms of space, equipment and people, will lessen both the impact of Covid itself and the knock on effects on other treatments.
  • Physical barriers to transmission where required - PPE, face coverings, distancing.
  • Isolation of infected individuals and potentially their contacts
  • Ultra-local, local, regional and at the last resort national restrictions, which could include lockdowns.

Making this a 'vaccination vs lockdown' debate is simple-minded at best and dangerous at worst.

Yup
Newmama29 · 30/03/2021 09:31

I’m so glad to see people having the same opinion as me. I’m often put off commenting on covid threads as I feel there’s just a barrage of people so keen to keep lockdowns on indefinitely & they can often be quite intimidating

WouldBeGood · 30/03/2021 09:50

@WankmasterBastardDeLaShithead just to say great name 😃

imforourfreedomback · 30/03/2021 10:53

1/2 all the way

dividedwefall · 30/03/2021 10:55

@Newmama29

I’m so glad to see people having the same opinion as me. I’m often put off commenting on covid threads as I feel there’s just a barrage of people so keen to keep lockdowns on indefinitely & they can often be quite intimidating
This was definitely the case until more recently on this board. I rarely bothered to comment and when I did was piled on at a rate of about 50/1!

As more people come out and say what they really think, more feel brave enough to do so. There is a great cartoon floating around that depicts this nicely. Hopefully this will also apply to MPs who appear to be very keen on supporting this horror show.

dividedwefall · 30/03/2021 10:56

@cantkeepawayforever nah what is simple minded is supporting any more lockdowns as a way to beat a virus that will be on its way out naturally if we stop messing about with 'restrictions' and tiers.

millenialblush · 30/03/2021 15:33

@Newmama29 - yes, the tide is turning, more and more people feeling unsettled by the governments handling of it all. I'm glad I feel like I finally have a place on MN. It used to be mask and lockdown lovers all the way but its shifted.

Newmama29 · 30/03/2021 15:45

@millenialblush I just don’t understand this need to bully & scare others into compliance. I’m so glad to see people finally standing up to it!