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Can this be true? Tons of people lying to get vaccine.

460 replies

NaturalBlondeYeahRight · 21/03/2021 14:59

My mum has just told me that my dodgy cousin (about 30) has just had his vaccine with all of his builder mates by lying and saying they are ‘unpaid carers’ on the nhs website. She said no one bothered to check any of them.
Firstly, how bloody outrageous of them pulling the wool over the vaccine centres eyes and secondly, why isn’t their any check, however minor?
I know we all need to get done eventually but this has really pissed me off.

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BorisJohnsonsSocks · 21/03/2021 16:15

Does anybody know when the 20s will get vaccinated? I'm due to go into Navy in June. Im guessing they will just give it me then?

SleepingStandingUp · 21/03/2021 16:15

@SinkGirl

So basically I should just lie, click the carer for CEV box even though my boys aren’t CEV and take their DLA letters with me?

The number of definitions of eligible carers has caused so much confusion. Total shambles.

Are you a carer for them though? If you you got sock how easy would it be for a friend or relative to come in and provide care for them? If the answer is they couldn't, the boys have complex care needs, you should be ticked as a carer with your GP and thus be G6
SleepingStandingUp · 21/03/2021 16:16

@BorisJohnsonsSocks

Does anybody know when the 20s will get vaccinated? I'm due to go into Navy in June. Im guessing they will just give it me then?
Before the end of July so yes, I'd assume work will give it you instead
Franklydear · 21/03/2021 16:16

Our carers association sent us an invitation with a link to click

BorisJohnsonsSocks · 21/03/2021 16:17

@SleepingStandingUp

Thank you!

SinkGirl · 21/03/2021 16:18

GP surgery refused to add us as we don’t get carers allowance despite both being on HRC DLA. I work 7 hours a week and earn too much.

We would be screwed if we got sick - twins, both very high needs, at risk of injury, don’t sleep, etc. No family nearby or other support. There is no one else but DH and I to care for them.

But the form says carers for those at high risk from COVID, not those at risk if their carer gets sick. I am probably being too honest!

Sansaplans · 21/03/2021 16:18

@BorisJohnsonsSocks

Does anybody know when the 20s will get vaccinated? I'm due to go into Navy in June. Im guessing they will just give it me then?
Seen as though the military are not being offered vaccines or even lateral flow tests, even due to the nature of the job there's a lot of mixing and travelling between base and home, you will likely be vaccinated when others in their 20s are. Welcome to the military, you soon get used to it.
pinkearedcow · 21/03/2021 16:19

@Franklydear

Proof of unpaid carer will be receiving DLA or pip, and a card of the various carers association, of course they ask for proof
I am an unpaid carer and wasn't asked for proof at any stage from booking to actually getting the vaccine, but I am registered at my GP's as a carer.

I guess the NHS is trusting people to be truthful as providing proof of being a carer would add a big layer of bureaucracy and cost. If people are betraying that trust and faking being carers, they are scumbags.

Sansaplans · 21/03/2021 16:19

@SinkGirl

GP surgery refused to add us as we don’t get carers allowance despite both being on HRC DLA. I work 7 hours a week and earn too much.

We would be screwed if we got sick - twins, both very high needs, at risk of injury, don’t sleep, etc. No family nearby or other support. There is no one else but DH and I to care for them.

But the form says carers for those at high risk from COVID, not those at risk if their carer gets sick. I am probably being too honest!

I think OP is on about booking through the NHS website for a hub, which anyone can technically do.
SinkGirl · 21/03/2021 16:20

The online form says you need to be a carer for someone who would be at high risk if they caught COVID (aka CEV)

123rd · 21/03/2021 16:20

I had seen this was possible ...but didn't book an apt as I have morals ! No way would I decide I take priority over someone else. But I do agree with people being offered them at the end of the day instead of them being thrown

SleepingStandingUp · 21/03/2021 16:21

@SinkGirl

GP surgery refused to add us as we don’t get carers allowance despite both being on HRC DLA. I work 7 hours a week and earn too much.

We would be screwed if we got sick - twins, both very high needs, at risk of injury, don’t sleep, etc. No family nearby or other support. There is no one else but DH and I to care for them.

But the form says carers for those at high risk from COVID, not those at risk if their carer gets sick. I am probably being too honest!

That's crap.
Part of the logic of protection for carers is what happens if you do get poorly because arguably your twins would have to go into some sort of short term care of you were hospitalised. Our GP has DH and I both as carers even though only I get carers
x2boys · 21/03/2021 16:21

I phonedy GP just to make sure they had me down as an unpaid carer and he booked Me in for a few days later ,my son gets HRC and HRM under SMI,and I get carers allowance,but I didn't have to provide proof of it.

Walkingwounded · 21/03/2021 16:21

I’ve just been for the vaccine today (50).

The guy at the entrance - pharmacy - said they were having quite a few people not turn up or cancel. They have to throw away any unused vials after 6 hours so were offering it to passers by on the street.

It’s wrong to lie, and ordinarily I’d be really pissed off with people lying to get the vaccine, or getting it when they aren’t entitled. But every shot in every arm helps bring about wider population immunity.

It’d be different if there were queues of vulnerable people still waiting to be vaccinated.

User133847 · 21/03/2021 16:22

That's the British for you. A lot of people in this country will find a loophole in anything.

NotSure94 · 21/03/2021 16:22

Its irritating nd I know quite a rule benders but overall what the hell, we will all get it soon enough.

I read an article in private eye where some pandemic expert said in a pandemic, speed is of the essence and trumps certainty, fairness or even regulation to a far higher degree than normal life requires.

Yes this means some shite deals, unfair systems will exist but its a race against a virus thats really bloody good at running. Governmnents have to move and move fast. Faster. Bogging things down in regulation is trumped by the fact that its a race against a virus, biologically designed to win races..

It made sense to me at least. When the dust has settled I hope we will still be able to identify abuses within these imperfect systems, profiteering or cronyism, or real human rights abuses but also see the need for pragmatism in a warp speed moving world against a incredibly powerful, swift and evolving opponent.

toolatetooearly · 21/03/2021 16:22

Sounds unlikely to me. And if it's true I don't think a few people doing it matters. We need everyone to get vaccinated.

Franklydear · 21/03/2021 16:23

@SinkGirl the local authorities have discretion on whether to include unpaid carers, mine does from this week only, we received the invitation on Friday and my carers association says that if you got ill there would be no one to care for the children you qualify, you need to check it out in your area

Sansaplans · 21/03/2021 16:23

@SinkGirl

The online form says you need to be a carer for someone who would be at high risk if they caught COVID (aka CEV)
Yes they don't check though. In honesty if you bring poorly would be damaging to those you care for etc I would be tempted to. I don't think it's jumping the queue or whatever, I think you should have been included.
Kazkepper123 · 21/03/2021 16:23

Unlikely as the majority of the people don’t want to get a vaccine

SleepingStandingUp · 21/03/2021 16:24

@SinkGirl

The online form says you need to be a carer for someone who would be at high risk if they caught COVID (aka CEV)
Honestly I would. I know someone will accuse me of taking vaccines from the needy and killing people (I'm not, I've already had mine!) but given the difference between doctors surgeries and who is and isn't ticking the CARER box so that you're automatically G6 and automatically ordered one is unfair. Your child is more at risk from you cat Hong covid than my sister's kids are. Simple.
ktp100 · 21/03/2021 16:24

The problem is that so many people are currently caring for elderly relatives that wouldn't usually need to do so (in non-Covid times) and how exactly are the government supposed to be able to tell who they are when they're not being paid to do so?

My grandparents have needed more care than ever during the pandemic, as many have. The closest family members to them are key workers working with the public so are a bigger Covid threat to them, whereas my fiance and I are working from home so although we have to travel to help out we are the best option for the family.

I wouldn't have dreamed of 'jumping the queue' for either of us (we are both in our late 40's) but My Nan's GP encouraged us to do so as essentially we ARE carers due to us shopping/cleaning/sorting monies-bills-calls etc and helping with personal care such as putting on support stockings - and they said we would be less of a risk to my grandparents if we did so - so we will!!

If people don't like it then that's on them but I will do whatever is best for them. End of.

LimitIsUp · 21/03/2021 16:24

@EmilyDickinson

When I went for my vaccine I got a hard look from the person checking me in and he pointed at my birth date on the screen and asked me if it was really correct. I was a bit taken aback and said it was. He said that they got a lot of people lying about their birth dates to get vaccines. I’ve decided to take it as a compliment
Nobody queried my age Sad
SleepingStandingUp · 21/03/2021 16:25

@Kazkepper123

Unlikely as the majority of the people don’t want to get a vaccine
Who's the majority who don't want it? Half the population done so the majority already done and people still being done at a significant rate
User133847 · 21/03/2021 16:25

@Kazkepper123

Unlikely as the majority of the people don’t want to get a vaccine
I'd imagine a fair amount of the duplicitous immoral types are anti-vaccers anyway.