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One dose of AZ?

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Bluenightowl · 17/03/2021 22:19

For my own reasons I do not want to get a second dose of AZ (there is plenty of debate on other threads about AZ and I don't want this to turn into another anti EU/pro AZ thread ).

I read previously one dose of AZ will give 12 weeks protection against covid?

Can I then get a second dose of another vaccine e.g Pfizer or start again with a different one shot vaccine?

Or as AZ gives 76% protection for up to 90 days, and a second dose will increase protection up to 84% for an unknown time period - is it necessary to get another vaccine at all?

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Sixdegreesofseparation · 17/03/2021 23:34

So one person in Spain dies from a brain haemorrhage presumably shortly after they'd had the vaccine hence the supposed link. How can you know that they wouldn't have died of the same thing at the same time anyhow with or without vaccine? Millions of people have had the vaccine and aren't all dropping like flies are they?

If she'd eaten a Pot Noodle that afternoon and tragically died two hours later would you be blaming the savoury snack now?

TomBarbara · 17/03/2021 23:35

Ask a doctor in Ireland about it. I don't think all these posts on mumsnet are helping you as we aren't doctors

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Bluenightowl · 17/03/2021 23:42

Even the doctors differ. There is one doctor refusing to give any vaccine at all.

Its all so vague.

I was rushed into having a vaccination, literally had an hour's notice. When there I asked for Pfizer and was told they only had AZ this month. I am sick with worry since.

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minchinfin · 17/03/2021 23:46

You really have no need to be sick with worry. how long ago did you have the AZ vaccine? The people who developed blood clotting issues from BOTH AZ Pfizer vaccines that have been flagged up as in need of investigation for a possible link all had issues between 4-16 days in Europe. So if it's been longer than 16 days you have no need to worry.

Motorina · 17/03/2021 23:48

Clearly the evidence-based option is to have the second dose of Oxford/Az.

You don't want that. Which is, of course, entirely your decision to make.

But that means you're making a decision outside of the evidence base. So I'd suggest finding a clinician you trust to talk through the risks of having the second dose, the risks of doing nothing, and the likelyhood of being allowed a different vaccine. All that may vary depending on the country you're in, current disease levels, and your own personal level of risk.

GreyhoundG1rl · 17/03/2021 23:49

I really doubt you can choose at all. And you certainly can't start again from scratch, for a second bite of the cherry.

HSHorror · 17/03/2021 23:50

There have been clots in people after pfizer too though.
People get clots. Pregnancy or the pill is probably much higher risk..... And those risks last longer. Presumably even any potential clotting issue would only be for a few days after anyway.

AND someone said 1/6 covid patients get clots.

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Bluenightowl · 17/03/2021 23:53

Its less than 16 days.

I don't see it as a cherry at all, more like a poisoned chalice to be honest.

I don't mind waiting until Sept/Oct if I can have a different one or just waiting indefinitely. 76% v 84%. - I'd be happy to take my chances.

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Bluenightowl · 17/03/2021 23:54

I also chose many years ago to stop taking the pill because for me, the risks were unnecessary when there were alternative methods of contraception.

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YellowPurple · 17/03/2021 23:56

Bluenightowl

It isn't nonsense. 9 second doses of AZ have been given in Spain and a woman with no underlying health issues has died from a brain hemorrhage.............

OP... Healthy People die every day of brain haemorrhage, heart attack and a hundred other illnesses.... Healthy people also get blood clots... Every day 🤦🏼

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Bluenightowl · 17/03/2021 23:57

And you certainly can't start again from scratch

Where did you read this? This is the sort of info I'm looking for. Can you please link it?

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GreyhoundG1rl · 17/03/2021 23:57

I was rushed into having a vaccination, literally had an hour's notice. When there I asked for Pfizer and was told they only had AZ this month. I am sick with worry since.
An hour's notice??

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Bluenightowl · 17/03/2021 23:58

Yes. I had it through work. I presume a cancellation!

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icegarden · 17/03/2021 23:59

Several people I know have been offered jabs at short notice and taken them. They weren't forced tho

Derbee · 18/03/2021 00:00

@Bluenightowl

It isn't nonsense. 9 second doses of AZ have been given in Spain and a woman with no underlying health issues has died from a brain hemorrhage.
It absolutely is nonsense. It’s political throwing toys out of pram by the EU. Stupid to get sucked into pathetic politics, and put your health at risk because of a few petty Europeans
icegarden · 18/03/2021 00:03

The analogy with the pill is an interesting one .. you get warned about that as a very known risk. Yet most people carry on

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Bluenightowl · 18/03/2021 00:03

No I wasn't forced either. I just panicked and went along to the vaccination centre. I asked for Pfizer when I was about to get it as I had worries about AZ. The nurse/vaccinator said this month we're offering AZ, maybe Pfizer next month. I should have walked away without any.

A couple of days later, countries starting suspending the AZ vaccine. I wish I'd followed my gut instincts and not had it. But I have and I am not going to have another AZ vaccine.

I was hoping someone would be/had been in a similar situation on MN.

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GreyhoundG1rl · 18/03/2021 00:03

@Bluenightowl

And you certainly can't start again from scratch

Where did you read this? This is the sort of info I'm looking for. Can you please link it?

Sorry, I meant at this stage of the vaccine rollout.
Wakeupin2022 · 18/03/2021 00:05

Yet another post? Give it a rest.........

You're not in UK so most MN'etters can't advise.

Speak to your Dr? Or is that as stupid an idea as not getting your 2nd dose of AZ?

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Bluenightowl · 18/03/2021 00:06

The analogy with the pill is an interesting one .. you get warned about that as a very known risk. Yet most people carry on

The pill is taken mainly by a certain age group and it is recommended not to remain on it indefinitely. I remember when I was on it, the GP would check my legs for signs of clotting whenever I renewed my prescription, take my blood pressure etc.

I stopped taking it due to the risks associated with it. None of my friends in my age bracket (40s) take the pill anymore.........

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Bluenightowl · 18/03/2021 00:08

Wakeupin2022

Feel free to scroll on by.......

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GabsAlot · 18/03/2021 00:10

but youve already had it so what does it matter if u get another dose

theres no link to it it will be coinfimred soon enough

you pfizer have had the same amount of blood clot related cases

GreyhoundG1rl · 18/03/2021 00:11

Are you actually eligible for the vaccine at this point, op, if you got it because there were cancellations?
You must have had time to consider it if you knew the appointment was imminent?

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Bluenightowl · 18/03/2021 00:12

but youve already had it so what does it matter if u get another dose

If a second dose increases the efficacy, it must increase the risks too?

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YellowPurple · 18/03/2021 00:16

Im sorry OP ,
But i think a grip is needed here

Even IF the clots were caused by the jab, it would be in a region of less than 0.1% people that have had the jab.
The risk would be that tiny !