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UK govt pressers Slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics Attendance explore-education-statistics. service.gov.uk/find-statistics/attendance-in-education-and-early-years-settings-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHs England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSAO Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
CovidMessenger live update by council district in England www.covidmessenger.com/
Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, tests, ONS deaths Dashboard app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe Uk data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK read https_www.ecdc.europa.eu/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecdc.europa.eu%2Fen%2Fcases-2019-ncov-eueea
Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=gbr&areas=fra&areas=esp&areas=ita&areas=deu&areas=swe&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&byDate=1&cumulative=1&logScale=1&per100K=1&values=deaths
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
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I did and I bled copiously and am bruised but am still glad I got it.

[quote TheSunIsStillShining]@ILookAtTheFloor

I understand the rest of your argument, but I have an issue with one part:
I wouldn't personally mind them having it, but they wouldn't want it due to the needle. So I would be forcing them into something that they don't want, that wouldn't really be for their benefit.

We do a few things as parents that the kids don't like, because as adults we know that it benefits them eg in the long run. They don't like shoes in the beginning, yet we make them wear it. It's the same with masks and vaccinations in my opinion.
Simply saying that I don't think that it's safe/reasonable is okay, but making arguments that don't hold ground weakens it.[/quote]
Agree.
And children already have to have needles several times in their first few years of life, and then again in early teens.

It's not like the HPV vaccine that I will force them to have in their teens.

It won't really benefit them in the long run until what, they're 50+? Objectively speaking. They can have it as an adult etc 16, or whatever it'll be once they reach that age and covid is whatever it becomes in a decade's time.

I'd pay for my teens to have pfzier tommorow-just saying

Depending on the age of your DCs they may well get a flu jab look? That is to protect others, too. Same with BCG.

Personally, I am keen to get youngsters done, in case any of any underlying vulnerabilities (not always known about until something happens), to fend off any as yet unknown issues around long covid and, mainly, to have a fighting chance of some kind of her immunity.

herd!

Depending on the age of your DCs they may well get a flu jab look?

Hardly any children get a flu jab, it's a nasal spray, it also provides significantly more benefit to the child that a covid vaccine.

How about a deal, adults stop using private cars for any journey less than 5 miles, providing huge benefits for any child asthma sufferers, and then we make the kids have a covid vaccine?

[quote MRex]Ability to add self as a carer has gone from the NHS booking site as of today (I check on occasion for when DH becomes eligible...).
BBC says 85% of 50-55 now done, so we should expect 40-49 to finally open soon. (Also random number generation on self isolating with dubious methodology included in the article.)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56598217[/quote]
NI opened online bookings to the 45 & overs yesterday, so I imagine similar will open for England very soon, there can’t be that large a disparity between the two.

@sirfredfredgeorge
Nice idea for a deal, but unworkable. We live in London, yet couldn't do a proper shopping without a car. Buses only every 30 mins and to get to a big shop it's 2 buses.
But I would like to see more Smarts (or 2 seaters) rather than huge cars with 1 person.

It would be interesting to see which contributes more to pollution:
A) passanger cars
B) buses
C) delivery vehicles

Yes, by flu jab , I guess I meant inoculation against an illness they don't really suffer badly from but are protecting the whole community by having.

I don't really egt the argument : I am more than happy for my DCs to have vaccines etc against illnesses that are (touch wood) minimal threat to them : polio, BCG, flu, covid. I don't know why the others aren't controversial but this one is but may be missing something.

make kids is a rather loaded statement fred!

@Piggywaspushed
imo - it's controversial because it's new. And not enough people have had it to convince everyone it's safe. Whilst I think there might have been similar feelings towards other vaccines when they came out, I am sure that atm with the internet everything is amplified to a ridiculous extent.
Also (again imo) PH/pharma officials* have not taken global media into consideration fully and have let people (influencers...) run with whatever they want to say. We can see it clearly with AZ blood clots, sputnik,... that misinformation or lack of data or jumbled up data can spread like wildfire and once it's in the heads it is very hard to change.
In the UK many ppl still don't want to acknowledge that kids do play a role in transmission and that it's an airborne virus.

*They would benefit from listening to really young people, but I think they might be too old and set in their ways for that

@sirfredfredgeorge

Depending on the age of your DCs they may well get a flu jab look?

Hardly any children get a flu jab, it's a nasal spray, it also provides significantly more benefit to the child that a covid vaccine.

How about a deal, adults stop using private cars for any journey less than 5 miles, providing huge benefits for any child asthma sufferers, and then we make the kids have a covid vaccine?

By hardly any, do you mean 55-63.5% dependent on age? www.gov.uk/government/statistics/national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports

By hardly any, do you mean 55-63.5% dependent on age?

I don't see anything in there saying the difference between those getting a vaccination via a jab and via a nasal spray, I don't know any child offered a jab, and have no reason to believe the numbers vaccinated in the report isn't by all types, the majority of which are spray?

@Piggywaspushed

Yes, by flu jab , I guess I meant inoculation against an illness they don't really suffer badly from but are protecting the whole community by having.

I don't really egt the argument : I am more than happy for my DCs to have vaccines etc against illnesses that are (touch wood) minimal threat to them : polio, BCG, flu, covid. I don't know why the others aren't controversial but this one is but may be missing something.

I would have a covid vaccine for my children (though they're both under 5, so it doesn't seem to be on the table currently), but I think most people do think of most of the things you list as being primarily to protect the child being vaccinated, though clearly herd immunity is also a central goal. The take-up of the flu vaccine for children is quite low - especially for preschoolers, whose parents have to sort it out themselves - and I suspect that's because people don't really think it's a serious risk to their child. And obviously there has been considerable reluctance or concern around childhood vaccines, as shown by the MMR controversy - I think vaccination rates still haven't fully recovered?

@sirfredfredgeorge

By hardly any, do you mean 55-63.5% dependent on age?

I don't see anything in there saying the difference between those getting a vaccination via a jab and via a nasal spray, I don't know any child offered a jab, and have no reason to believe the numbers vaccinated in the report isn't by all types, the majority of which are spray?

Ok, so your point is only that it's ok if it's a spray but not a jab?

Ok, so your point is only that it's ok if it's a spray but not a jab?

No, I'm saying it's about a risk vs reward, and I believe the risk (mainly of individuals choosing to decline future more useful vaccines due to a worse experience from an injection and higher side effects) means that it really needs to actually have significant benefits to run that risk.

Even if you accept a few days of side-effect based illness as acceptable, and the very rare cases of more significant side effects, do make it worthwhile to the whole of society. Especially given we can't even have low traffic neighbourhoods in London without controversy because people cannot imagine not being able to drive to the supermarket, despite air pollution having contributed to more deaths than covid in the last 2 years. The everyone in it for society is so uniquely a feature of covid mitigations that I do react negatively to it.

DSS was offered the choice of flu vaccine by jab or spray. Bit of a no brainer for him he told me - who likes needles?

You certainly wouldn't be making my 17 year old get the jab - you'd not be able to hold her back! She's concerned that there may be bars on her life is she isn't vaccinated (which she doesn't disagree with in principle, just doesn't want to be excluded) She does not enjoy the LFTs. And is also keen to do her bit to protect those around her. She's not just helping protect wider society by being vaccinated, but most directly protecting us - her parents - and her friends' parents, her grandparents, etc. None of our vaccines are 100% effective so leaving her unvaccinated increases the risks of her passing something on to someone she cares about. The consequences of feeling guilty about doing that are not trivial for her herself I think.

DSS was offered the choice of flu vaccine by jab or spray. Bit of a no brainer for him he told me - who likes needles?

Well my 13yo ds was most put out that he was told he had to have it by spray. He asked if he could have it by jab, but apparently it's more effective at that age by spray.

The nurse said he was only the second child she'd come across that wanted the jab rather than the spray though.

@MargaretThursday

DSS was offered the choice of flu vaccine by jab or spray. Bit of a no brainer for him he told me - who likes needles?

Well my 13yo ds was most put out that he was told he had to have it by spray. He asked if he could have it by jab, but apparently it's more effective at that age by spray.

The nurse said he was only the second child she'd come across that wanted the jab rather than the spray though.

DSS was 17 when he had his last one, so possibly in an overlap age range

You certainly wouldn't bemakingmy 17 year old get the jab - you'd not be able to hold her back! She's concerned that there may be bars on her life is she isn't vaccinated (which she doesn't disagree with in principle, just doesn't want to be excluded) She does not enjoy the LFTs. And is also keen to do her bit to protect those around her. She's not just helping protect wider society by being vaccinated, but most directly protecting us - her parents - and her friends' parents, her grandparents, etc. None of our vaccines are 100% effective so leaving her unvaccinated increases the risks of her passing something on to someone she cares about. The consequences of feeling guilty about doing that are not trivial for her herself I think

Mine too although he is a DS.

April fools pranking from the covid dashboard guys on Twitter for those who follow.

Zoe’s estimated daily transmission rate is down to 3,805 today.

From Tim Spector:

“As cases decline again, we’re seeing regional divides widen to a three-fold difference, a familiar trend we saw last summer when cases were similarly low. Last week we reported that cases in children had increased, but this has now reversed with cases falling, suggesting any impact of schools opening was very small. Even more positive news, is that cases in the over 60s have been consistently dropping for weeks. The data shows we’re in a good position as we begin to resume life outside of lockdown and the effect of the vaccine programme should keep numbers low.”

Very good news on the zoe data, will be interesting to see if the age data in the daily cases starts dropping aswell, still rising up to the latest point (but that's almost a week ago)

And obviously there are always questions about if detection rate has changed with the LFD's.