Vaccine supply about to significantly reduce

[DareIask]

Looks like Europe may have got their way

Nothing new. This was always going to happen with a vaccine that relies upon virus seed stock and host cell banks. Successful production is not guaranteed every batch.

It really is nothing to worry about, it will be back on trajectory within a few weeks.

Our son has been doing his College work at hone since February to protect his CEV dad. Dad’s now vaccinated, son is back in next week and looking forward to starting his university course in September, fully vaccinated (which he will be) and getting on with his life.

Everyone needs to calm down.

@LimitIsUp

Don't shout at me folks - but aren't those of you under 50 with school aged dc (and thus not getting the jab as quickly as you had hoped) not a bit reassured by the lateral flow testing that is going on? I find it reassuring that ds (16) has had 4 negative lateral flow tests and its only his second week at school

I’m not convinced they are that effective or reliable

I had mine today - under 50. I had a text at 9am and was in at 3pm. DH booked in tomorrow. Lots of people I know under 50 got the text today and booked in too.

This could be a blessing in disguise. Lots of data coming through about the lack of efficacy against the B1351 variant so it will probably need to be reformulated soon.

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-doesnt-prevent-b1351-covid-early-trial

@LimitIsUp

Don't shout at me folks - but aren't those of you under 50 with school aged dc (and thus not getting the jab as quickly as you had hoped) not a bit reassured by the lateral flow testing that is going on? I find it reassuring that ds (16) has had 4 negative lateral flow tests and its only his second week at school

I’m pleased all 1000 were negative yes. Do they only do three then it switches to home? Not sure how many will keep it up

This could be a blessing in disguise. Lots of data coming through about the lack of efficacy against the B1351 variant so it will probably need to be reformulated soon.

Why would that be a good thing?

Since the EU have consistently slagged off and undermined the AZ vaccine and apparently don’t want it, perhaps they could send us the millions of doses they currently have sitting in the fridge unused. Problem solved!

@LimitIsUp

Don't shout at me folks - but aren't those of you under 50 with school aged dc (and thus not getting the jab as quickly as you had hoped) not a bit reassured by the lateral flow testing that is going on? I find it reassuring that ds (16) has had 4 negative lateral flow tests and its only his second week at school

Not in the slightest.

My son is 6.

newlabelwriter

I had mine today - under 50. I had a text at 9am and was in at 3pm. DH booked in tomorrow. Lots of people I know under 50 got the text today and booked in too.“

Indeed. Happy to wager that over 40s will be vaccinated before the temporary shortage begins in April.

Do wish the media wouldn’t scaremonger like this. We have a fantastic programme and this will be a temporary lull.

Thewise its actually a load of shit to be Frank.

They do not know. The sample was so small. You cannot make conclusions from a couple of hundred people.

@MarshaBradyo

This could be a blessing in disguise. Lots of data coming through about the lack of efficacy against the B1351 variant so it will probably need to be reformulated soon.

Why would that be a good thing?

Because I don’t want to risk having any reaction to this version if a few months down the line we need to restart the program with another one.

@RedToothBrush

The expectation management (or lack of) is the real issue.

I was not happy about DS going back to school because the most obvious place for transmission for the forseeable is schools.

But i could reconsile that with the fact that it probably wasn't going to be too long before we got ours.

Now im back to the anxiety of watching cases (they are already going back up where I am - they have been for a week) and that feeling of dread and uncertainty about whether we will get the call from school or get sick ourselves.

On top of this increasingly seeing people do stupid high risk stuff hasn't helped combined with friends who are booked in for next week taking the attitude that its all over now without a thought about us. The Alright Jack stuff has really upset me.

It means probably another 6 to 8 weeks of staying home.

It means we can't plan holudays etc, when all our close friends now can, with a reasonable degree of confidence that it will probably be ok.

Its the limbo effect that it creates that bothers me.

Im not begrudging anyone who has had it, but this just feels cruel and its utterly sole destroying really.

Ive been pretty measured and not over optimistic throughout. I thought if there was to be a supply crunch it would hit in March not April. So thats hard too.

Its just shit.

I feel exactly the same.

My parents and all other close family have been vaccinated. We have three big birthdays in April and I was hoping to see my parents.

[quote Thewiseoneincognito]This could be a blessing in disguise. Lots of data coming through about the lack of efficacy against the B1351 variant so it will probably need to be reformulated soon.

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/03/astrazeneca-vaccine-doesnt-prevent-b1351-covid-early-trial[/quote]
Bollocks.

More likely to mean that if thats the case they will top up the over 50s first before doing anything about anyone else.

And ive just this second had a message from a teacher friend. Another of the classes in her school (same age group) has just popped. TA has it. TA has kid at school local to me. They've had a class pop. Presumably kid gave it to her Mum.

Not what i wanted to hear after tonight's news.

Because I don’t want to risk having any reaction to this version if a few months down the line we need to restart the program with another one.

It might not protect you from getting SA variant. It probably will protect you from moderate / serious illness.

Pfizer / Moderna will probably not protect you from catching SA variant either.

All vaccines that are used now will need to be adjusted and new ones come online.

You may catch SA variant in the meantime and die but I guess that's a price worth paying?

Also when I was the nurse asked me to encourage anyone I knew who was in a category to be vaccinated, to do so as the take up was low.

Same here! Im so fed up!

It’s scaremongering. I know loads of 40+ who have recently had the jab. Some might be delayed but I think a lot in the over 40s category have had theirs in some regions.

@Figrollface they delayed ordering their supply by 3 months and now want someone else supply who ordered much earlier and thus the cultures were grown for them and had hiccups along the way

only yesterday countries in the EU are stopping vaccinating with AZ but now want it even though they think its possibly dangerous

they've made a fuck up and are looking around for an escape route

Gutted that they advertised in the press that they were ahead and that under 40s were due to get it in a certain timeframe, only to whip that promise away.

I'm a 48 year old asthmatic primary school teacher, who missed shielding and then later missed being included in group 6 due to one course of steroids each time, despite taking strong inhalers and additional tablets and still needing my blue inhaler to control it. (Shifting goalposts have frustrated a LOT of asthmatics who have been told first one thing, then another).

I just want to feel safe going to work. One opened window (that can only open 10cm for safety) and a mask if I'm not in my taped -off 2m zone by my desk just isn't cutting it.

Balls!

It might not protect you from getting SA variant.

There's a common misunderstanding in this - although the gist of the post is correct.

Vaccines don't prevent you getting ANY illness. They MAY however prevent you testing +ve, but in order for the adaptive immune system to act, you must first be infected!!

Just been put in a queue on Ocado for the first time in a long time. Are people really freaking out and thinking we will remain in lockdown for longer now??

Thewiseoneincognito

Why would that be a good thing?
Because I don’t want to risk having any reaction to this version if a few months down the line we need to restart the program with another one.”

That’s much like the ‘flu jab, though. Had mine every year for the past 30 and has no ill effects.

FWIW:
MIL, very frail, 87,
parents, 81 and 74 and robust
90/92 year old great aunt and uncle, frail,
BILs 56, stage IV cancer, 60 and healthy
Husband, 61, CEV
SIL, 57, healthy
29 friends, from 70-32 with various conditions

No significant adverse reactions. Some headaches, sore arms, bit “leaden” for a couple of days and some more tired than usual for a day or two.

Me, 56, small bruise at injection site.

@LimitIsUp

Don't shout at me folks - but aren't those of you under 50 with school aged dc (and thus not getting the jab as quickly as you had hoped) not a bit reassured by the lateral flow testing that is going on? I find it reassuring that ds (16) has had 4 negative lateral flow tests and its only his second week at school

I’d be more reassured if every child in the school were being tested, but as they aren’t, No, I don’t feel reassured by lateral flow testing in schools. I think after the initial 3 in school, there will be a further drop in uptake as families forget or just don’t bother for what ever reason. It needs tests rates to be really high to ensure a positive case is caught. I know one of our schools had extremely high participation from The critical worker/ vulnerable Bubble, but this dropped once everyone else came back to school.