In two weeks pupils can safely return to school..

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..can they fuck.

There maybe plenty of reasons why they have too but to lie that it's safe is deplorable.

You don’t seem to be engaging with the fact that you’re actually pretty privileged in owning a house outright. And many, many people lose parents without getting this. If you can’t take this on board, I’m not sure there’s any point in continuing with this discussion.
Pretty shitty way to talk about someone who is concerned about their vulnerable child.

I don't think Watching came on looking for relationship advice, but I could be wrong I suppose?

@Watchingbehindmyhands you sound very defensive and very upset.

I'm not 'having a go' and I'm not saying anything about what you have and haven't been doing.

I've also been teaching both online and face to face. But as I've said I'm not remotely worried about catching Covid. My eldest dd had it, couldn't smell or taste for a week and that was it.

I will say again I am sympatethic to your personal circumstances but I don't think you can extrapolate much from that in terms of teachers and schools in general.

@nostaples

The CMS can’t force my ex to do anything. Toothless tiger. Self employment rocks if you don’t want to pay maintenance. Legal advice is expensive and useless given that, as you would know if you have dealt with the issue, the CMS has jurisdiction and therefore no amount of legal advice will help. And the case has been written off anyway.

You are utterly clueless about just about everything.

I'm not lucky enough to be mortgage free. I have had to take on the mortgage myself since ex dh buggered off. I also have a vulneralbe child but she needs to be back in school because of her vulnerabilities.

Pretty shitty way to talk about someone who is concerned about their vulnerable child.

There are lots of ways children are vulnerable. Parents who are made redundant and lose their homes, for example. The poster has choices that they don’t have, that’s all I’m saying.

'You are utterly clueless about just about everything.'

Right, ok then.

don't think Watching came on looking for relationship advice, but I could be wrong I suppose?

Nah. I seem to have been misunderstood along the line somewhere and am now defending myself to,people who aren’t reading. Need to go to bed.

@ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown

Tableflowerss if there's tape around it do you just mean a box marked on the floor? I can imagine pupils calling that a "box". Pupils can't get into my room without walking through my taped area. You could do the teachers-moving for some classes but not all - art, science, cdt - would all need a different set up. After the first couple of years of secondary students do different subjects so they simply can't stay together all day - you can't force them to sit in one room if some are doing French and the others German! I'm not denying there could be better arrangements but we have already put in place lots of changes. At minimum a secondary teacher will have at least one class per yeargroup so that 30x6.

No honestly it’s a Perspex box, solid design that they actual sit inside. I thought it was a good idea and better than nothing

I love the argument that 'so and so had it and couldn't taste or smell for a week' - so that's OK then. A friend's Deputy Head, a lovely person aged 43 with no underlying health conditions died the week before half term.
43, with children, a family, a mortgage etc

Well, you had no clue children weren’t being vaccinated and you have no idea how the CMS works.

@Watchingbehindmyhands I've tried sympathy and it's not really got me anywhere. I'm wondering if there might be other threads where you could get the sort of support you might be looking for or a better place to vent about your personal circumstances. Of course, it's absolutely fine to stay and do that here, I just think it's really important to point out that other teachers don't feel the same way as you do (even though they might also be going through shit but apparently are 'completely clueless about everything' because only your problems really matter).

Very pleased. No covid cases in our school ever (no, it's not just luck) long may it last. Glad they're going back.

@TheKeatingFive

it depends how much you and even more importantly, your employer pays in

Well obviously if you pay in 1000s a month, you’ll build a good pot. That doesn’t mean you have the better deal, because you are the one paying it in.

If you find an employer putting in 1000s a month, please let me know. They’ll be inundated with applications.

For context, I’m ploughing in more than 600 a month of my paycheck into my pension and I don’t have a hope of accumulating as much as a teacher.

Many senior positions come with a very attractive salary package including decent pension contributions, healthcare, life insurance etc. I’m not really sure what the issue is, if you manage to get that job you get the salary package to go with it. It’s not that difficult to train to be a teacher if you want the salary and pension package that goes with that job. It appears that around 33% of teachers gross salary goes into their pension when you add employer and employee contribution, that’s quite a lot, way more than £600 a month

There are lots of ways children are vulnerable. Parents who are made redundant and lose their homes, for example. The poster has choices that they don’t have, that’s all I’m saying.
You're being very snippy and have been whataboutering for quite a while. Nice.

Tell you what @TheKeatingFive, I would give everything I to have my child back to how he used to be. Cannot put any price on his health and future. I watch him battle every single day and I have had to watch him cry tonight because he wants to be in school but is so scared about what that might mean for him. You can have my house. Take it.

You can have my house. Take it.

You’re getting emotional now. I don’t think any parent wants to risk their children becoming homeless.

[quote nostaples]@Watchingbehindmyhands I've tried sympathy and it's not really got me anywhere. I'm wondering if there might be other threads where you could get the sort of support you might be looking for or a better place to vent about your personal circumstances. Of course, it's absolutely fine to stay and do that here, I just think it's really important to point out that other teachers don't feel the same way as you do (even though they might also be going through shit but apparently are 'completely clueless about everything' because only your problems really matter).[/quote]
That's really unpleasant.

Myothercar that's really awful. It's the randomness - it is not only those known to be vulnerable who are affected. I've watched a fit and healthy colleague be off work for months last year after having it. Back now but a shadow of former self. I hope it is temporary.

One problem I found in school is that staff who think school is safe, nothing to see here etc, where ones who came right up to you to speak, had their mask slung round their chin etc.

I just think it's really important to point out that other teachers don't feel the same way as you do

You don’t know how I feel. You assume you do because you have picked and chosen what you take from my posts. Very happy to be back in school. But I don’t consider schools generally are even vaguely covid safe. And no one is thinking about what that means for vulnerable to covid children.

Woo hoo!

Nothing in life is 'safe'.

If you're not happy with the idea take your children out of school and home school them.. simples.

Oh, and shut the windows. Forgot that one.

Many senior positions come with a very attractive salary package including decent pension contributions, healthcare, life insurance etc

Not many come with the kind of pension contributions that build up an equivalent pot to a decent public sector defined benefit. Unfortunately.

@ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown

Myothercar that's really awful. It's the randomness - it is not only those known to be vulnerable who are affected. I've watched a fit and healthy colleague be off work for months last year after having it. Back now but a shadow of former self. I hope it is temporary.

One problem I found in school is that staff who think school is safe, nothing to see here etc, where ones who came right up to you to speak, had their mask slung round their chin etc.

You're right @ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown. It's random. One of our cleaners (older, BAME) has it. Another cleaner has it and her husband has just been ventilated. My TA has it.

I'm going back to work now purely to make sure that no child I teach will ever, ever write the "word" simples