In two weeks pupils can safely return to school..

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..can they fuck.

There maybe plenty of reasons why they have too but to lie that it's safe is deplorable.

More importantly, they need to remember their vocation which is to teach and protect children

I have taught 6 lessons a day for the duration of the pandemic. And delivered extra curricula online. I have taught face to face in our nursery and prep school for the duration which has meant my children have largely been home alone (old enough, thankfully). I have spent hours dealing with serious pastoral issues and made some safeguarding referrals. I’ve done my job, thanks.

I am sick and tired of not being listened to or have my concerns as a professional seen and noted. I am also worried for my disabled child who no one, frankly, is seeking to protect. And yes, worried for my job but apparently none of that matters because other teachers have better job security and good pensions.

Also a single parent teacher with shit going on but none of my PERSONAL circumstances mean that I can't see that decisions about who should be working from home and who should be vaccinated should be based on clinical evidence rather than the particular wishes of individuals or their perceptions.

@ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown

At least the teachers are with the same class. Most supermarket works will serve 30 people each day..... That is actually mindblowing. Have you heard of secondary schools? I see over 300 a week (and I'm part time!)

Well my kids school have bubbles and the teachers don’t see anywhere near that many - as my teacher friends have told me. They also have a Perspex box they sit in and aren’t allowed anywhere near the teachers....

As have I @Watchingbehindmyhands but it's not the same is it?

You've surely seen the EVIDENCE about children's mental health and domestic abuse and the gap between disadvantaged children growing.

Online education is still hard work for teachers of course and meaningful but the kids need to be back in school. That's what you signed up to do. Just as doctors signed up to help people in hospitals.

And yes, worried for my job but apparently none of that matters because other teachers have better job security and good pensions.

You’ve no mortgage to pay by your own admission, so not exactly facing the same pressures as others in that regard.

@icantthinkofanamehelp

Woop woop! Lockdown was never to stop people getting the virus Protect the NHS was it's purpose

Exactly this. Lockdown was because hospitals were overwhelmed and having to choose who got care. So relieved

It’s not true that people aren't concerned. CEV should have been vaccinated. Vulnerable next

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I said schools are not safe for my child. Not me. My child. With a disability. Sure he’s young and will probably be fine. But he might not be.

You’re mortgage free, so alright Jack. You seem totally oblivious to the choices you have that aren’t open to others

What choices? 3 kids to feed, clothe, keep warm. No family support. Only child, parents dead. Ex not provided support in 12 years so doubt he’ll start now.

@Watchingbehindmyhands you sound like you're going through personal shit and I feel for you I do.

But it's not the case that nobody's listening. However things are for you personally it just isn't the case that teachers are less safe than any other profession (and more safe than secretaries and hairdressers and careworkers) and it isn't the case that teaching is less secure. I'm sorry that your job isn't.

As for your disabled child, why hasn't he or she been vaccinated yet?

Tableflowerss that's interesting. Doesn't mean my experience is wrong though. I'm intrigued how any secondary school operates without staff seeing far in excess of 30 students a day! Does the science teacher do a bit of French?
I quite fancy a perspex box, I just have some tape on the floor

What choices? 3 kids to feed, clothe, keep warm. No family support. Only child, parents dead. Ex not provided support in 12 years so doubt he’ll start now.

Plenty of people are in that position without the luxury of owning their home outright. If you’re thinking of handing in your notice, it must be because you think you can manage without your reasonably paid teaching job.

Online education is still hard work for teachers of course and meaningful but the kids need to be back in school. That's what you signed up to do

Am beginning to wonder if you can read?! I’ve been in school. Have you?

Pootle40

“And with the study coming out today re impact on vaccine in reducing hospitalisation this seems like the right call....”

Yes, the news on the incredible effectiveness of vaccines is just fantastic and I would agree with you IF the top 9 groups had already been vaccinated, as they will be in April.

I believe 8th March is just that bit too soon, for that reason. After Easter would make far more sense.

As for your disabled child, why hasn't he or she been vaccinated yet?

Because the vaccine hasn’t been approved for children?

Nostaples what a breath of fresh air you are. Thank you!

@Watchingbehindmyhands have you not tried the child support agency?

Again, you sound like you're going through personal shit but I don't think you can extrapolate anything from this in terms of teachers having a bad lot and schools not reopening.

I am also a teacher single parent with an abusive husband and no support but I feel lucky to be a teacher, entirely safe and can't wait to get back into the classroom. In fact I've been in today and it felt good.

Plenty of people are in that position without the luxury of owning their home outright. If you’re thinking of handing in your notice, it must be because you think you can manage without your reasonably paid teaching job

I lost my parents for my house. Hardly a luxury. I can hand in my notice because I can claim carer’s allowance whilst a i look for something else. Hardly fun, eh?

@ItsIgginningtolooklikelockdown

Tableflowerss that's interesting. Doesn't mean my experience is wrong though. I'm intrigued how any secondary school operates without staff seeing far in excess of 30 students a day! Does the science teacher do a bit of French? I quite fancy a perspex box, I just have some tape on the floor

But the schools could make it safer if teachers are seeing so many students each week. DC told me all the teachers come to their class and sit in the box and the kids aren’t allowed anywhere near it. There’s literally duct take around it and if they do much as walk within meters of it they’ll be told off.

I mean it’s maybe not possible in every classroom but it would be something to help....

have you not tried the child support agency?

No. Course not. It’s only been 12 years. He might get a conscience.

I don't think you can extrapolate anything from this in terms of teachers having a bad lot and schools not reopening

Seriously? Never said that. Any of it. Would rather be face to face. Happy to teach. Happy for schools to be open. Don’t think they’re safe. Concerned for my child. Very concerned.

Hardly a luxury.

You don’t seem to be engaging with the fact that you’re actually pretty privileged in owning a house outright. And many, many people lose parents without getting this. If you can’t take this on board, I’m not sure there’s any point in continuing with this discussion.

[quote nostaples]@Watchingbehindmyhands have you not tried the child support agency?

Again, you sound like you're going through personal shit but I don't think you can extrapolate anything from this in terms of teachers having a bad lot and schools not reopening.

I am also a teacher single parent with an abusive husband and no support but I feel lucky to be a teacher, entirely safe and can't wait to get back into the classroom. In fact I've been in today and it felt good.[/quote]
Wow ... where is this magical land where your job is entirely safe. It's teaching - nobody's job is entirely safe. Teaching is a wonderful job and i have enjoyed most of my 20 years doing it but entirely safe? Neither is it that secure anymore. So you've been in today? So have I. And i've been setting and marking home learning and staffing the KW bubble 3 times a week. Some of us never left the classroom.

@Watchingbehindmyhands I don't know your personal circumstances but I have got an ex husband who wouldn't pay child maintenance.

The CSA can force your husband to pay. You can get legal advice.

I feel as though you will have a negative comeback for every suggestion made to you but what is coming across is that you need support for your personal circumstances. I would just say that's different from an argument for schools not going back or for teachers getting vaccinated or whatever.

@nostaples

And you’re having a go at me when I’ve been in school, In front of actual children at least some portion of the day, since March and you’re talking about just going back?!

Tableflowerss if there's tape around it do you just mean a box marked on the floor? I can imagine pupils calling that a "box". Pupils can't get into my room without walking through my taped area. You could do the teachers-moving for some classes but not all - art, science, cdt - would all need a different set up. After the first couple of years of secondary students do different subjects so they simply can't stay together all day - you can't force them to sit in one room if some are doing French and the others German!
I'm not denying there could be better arrangements but we have already put in place lots of changes. At minimum a secondary teacher will have at least one class per yeargroup so that 30x6.

I’m over the moon. School phoned today to say if they don’t go back on the 8th they’d like my daughter in as they’re concerned about how far behind she’s talked, so yes I literally can’t wait.