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In two weeks pupils can safely return to school..

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Regulus · 22/02/2021 16:02

..can they fuck.

There maybe plenty of reasons why they have too but to lie that it's safe is deplorable.

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gottakeeponmovin · 22/02/2021 19:44

@mumsneedwine you are no more at risk with your heart condition than anyone else with a heart condition that has to get public transport or work with the public. I have a heart condition - I am 50 - and like you I don't qualify as vulnerable but I also have to go to work, I have to get a train, get a tube and work with the public . That's the way it is. Teachers are no different to anyone else. You and I are both statistically considered low risk or we would get jabs - so it's our choice - we either get in with our jobs or resign and find something else. I understand you are concerned - so am I - but I get irritated by the fact that teachers seem to think they should be more protected than anyone else. The choice is yours but kids need to go back to school

mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:45

@wizzbangfizz I am also a parent. I want kids back - keep saying it, I want kids back in my classroom. I just want parents(who I can understand are thrilled) that there is a better way. Because if parents support teachers we can all be happy. And safer. But everything has to be all polarised. The only passive aggression has been towards Wanky socks who called me disgusting and a disgrace. A lot of people have understood why teachers in my position feel demoralised. There is a vaccine that could protect us (& help cut transmission in schools), but we are not allowed to get it yet. That's all.

mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:45

@gottakeeponmovin I do qualify as vulnerable,I'm in group 6. Vaccine probably by end of next month.

Abraxan · 22/02/2021 19:46

Daydreaming

The government rules say that CV school staff are perfectly fine to be in school with no protective measures in place. Most schools don't have excess staff to enable their CV to work from home or find them non classroom-based jobs, when all children are back in.

As said many times on MN, I'm cv and I was in all last term. I wfh March to the summer when almost all out other staff were in, except Cv staff. I've also wfh this term too though mainly due to the role I do during lockdowns. Going to school with no protection didn't go well in my school. Many staff caught covid, as did I. I ended up in hospital ill with a lengthy time off work and I'm still not fully right now several months later.

But the government says it's safe for vulnerable staff to teach with no SD or anything, so little most schools can do.

mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:47

@Daydreamsinglorioustechnicolor employer says as not shielding I am expected in. Have tried I promise.

Hopeful201 · 22/02/2021 19:47

I think some people like being at home and carrying on in this way. Lady interviewed today by the BBC in her pj's not wanting to send her children back. Maybe it is too hard for some people to get back on the treadmill of life-but for most of us we have to get on with it.
My teenage DS are really pleased and I have every confidence the school will be good. No bubbles burst last time and there was a very high infection rate in our local area.

gottakeeponmovin · 22/02/2021 19:47

@mumsneedwine why don't you ask for unpaid leave for four weeks and then you should be safe? Better than resigning

Multicover · 22/02/2021 19:47

[quote mumsneedwine]@Thirtyrock39 yup. My life is worth more than money [/quote]
Are you CEV?

MarshaBradyo · 22/02/2021 19:48

Whitty and Valance back it even though many picked up on media speculation and pure noise

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 22/02/2021 19:49

@Wishihadanalgorithm

As a teacher I am bloody delighted I can get back to school and teach in my classroom with children sat in front of me. Yes we will all be masked and visored up with hand gel and disinfectant wet wipes everywhere but I will be in a classroom with real live pupils in front of me and I can’t wait!

In my live lessons today I was talking to my students about this and they all can’t wait to return as well. I suspect very, very few parents will want to keep their children at home if my students are anything to go by.

❤
mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:50

@gottakeeponmovin sod that. I'm going off sick 🤒

gottakeeponmovin · 22/02/2021 19:50

@mumsneedwine I think if I'd have seen more effort from teachers teaching remotely I may feel differently but at my DDs primary school she gets 3 hours of live lessons a week and no work marked. Her teachers are not doing their full time jobs and she isn't getting an education. I think it's a struggle for parents to support remote education because it just isn't happening

Original poster
Regulus · 22/02/2021 19:50

@Quartz2208

Regulus I never said schools were safe or that a vaccine was a panacea but we cant stay in lockdown forever.

What do you want to have happen - I cant quite work out?

I want the government to say it is not safe but preferable to the alternative
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mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:51

@Multicover CV

gottakeeponmovin · 22/02/2021 19:51

@mumsneedwine fair enough 😂😂

pinkhappy · 22/02/2021 19:51

Do we think that the secondary schools will actually be open for all children on march 8 or will there be some phasing in due to testing? DS really wants to know.

Nellodee · 22/02/2021 19:52

For me, it isn't about deaths, and it isn't about hospitalisations, and it isn't about teacher safety.

It's about how fucking abysmally awful it was to teach and learn whilst we had students in and out and in and out and in and out.

I cannot be more certain than that I have delivered a far better education to my students whilst on lockdown than I did in the run up to Christmas. I appreciate this may not be the case for all subjects, or all age groups, but for Y9-Y13 maths in my area, it definitely was.

pinkpip100 · 22/02/2021 19:52

@Hopeful201

I think some people like being at home and carrying on in this way. Lady interviewed today by the BBC in her pj's not wanting to send her children back. Maybe it is too hard for some people to get back on the treadmill of life-but for most of us we have to get on with it. My teenage DS are really pleased and I have every confidence the school will be good. No bubbles burst last time and there was a very high infection rate in our local area.
I haven’t seen anyone on this thread saying they don’t want their children to go back to school. I desperately want my children to have that opportunity, but I don’t agree that this “Big Bang” approach is the only or best way to go about it.
Kazzyhoward · 22/02/2021 19:53

[quote gottakeeponmovin]@mumsneedwine you are no more at risk with your heart condition than anyone else with a heart condition that has to get public transport or work with the public. I have a heart condition - I am 50 - and like you I don't qualify as vulnerable but I also have to go to work, I have to get a train, get a tube and work with the public . That's the way it is. Teachers are no different to anyone else. You and I are both statistically considered low risk or we would get jabs - so it's our choice - we either get in with our jobs or resign and find something else. I understand you are concerned - so am I - but I get irritated by the fact that teachers seem to think they should be more protected than anyone else. The choice is yours but kids need to go back to school [/quote]
I agree. Nothing and nowhere is perfectly safe for anyone with any kind of medical condition. It wasn't "safe" pre covid as you could still catch flu, norovirus, or any number of other infectious diseases which may have made a vulnerable person very ill or kill them.

People who are worried about their health need to make their own decisions, and if that means getting a different job, then that's what they need to do. The whole country can't stay locked down to protect an ever decreasing number of vulnerable people.

mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:53

@gottakeeponmovin I get that completely. Some schools have not been as good as they could be. I teach from 8.30 - 3 every day and have fab attendance. But I'm secondary so easier.
There was a way to do this that kept everyone happy. But government chose not to.

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Abraxan · 22/02/2021 19:55

@pinkhappy

Do we think that the secondary schools will actually be open for all children on march 8 or will there be some phasing in due to testing? DS really wants to know.
The government document says all back m[on March 8 I think. It does mention twice weekly testing but not the specifics as yet,
mumsneedwine · 22/02/2021 19:55

@Kazzyhoward I'm CV. In group 6. Statistically quite a high chance of being v ill if catch COVID. But no vaccine yet so expected to go back unprotected,

Tal45 · 22/02/2021 19:55

Awful attitude towards @mumsneedwine on here. I would have no problem with all teachers over 50/CV to have had their vaccines + 3 weeks before any kids go back and mine's in Yr 10.

pinkpip100 · 22/02/2021 19:56

@MarshaBradyo

Chris Whitty speaking well on this
Except he didn’t really justify why sending ALL children back to ALL schools is the best approach, nor why England’s return to school differs so much to that in Scotland and Wales, where a far more cautious (and in my view sensible) approach is being taken.
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