Good News part 11 - Picnics galore as we head into spring

[OrangeBananaFish]

Hope no-one minds me starting this. Apologies if another has started too. Please can someone add the pretty pictures.

Useful links:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

www.covidmessenger.com Thanks to LittleOwl for all her hard work!

ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk

NB Please don’t take this too seriously- it depends what vaccine delivery speed and uptake you estimate so it’s not written in stone.

Please note, this is a thread to share good news and for wobblers to be reassured. Doomploppers will be met with scorn and derision!

Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine: FDA approves single-shot jab www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56226979

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9307729/Oxford-vaccine-effective-Pfizer-jab-new-figures-show.html
Not a fan of the Daily Fail but this looks like exciting news! Hope to see the backup data soon.

Hello Dobby. I'm still fatigued but moseying along. I suspect vaccination prompted a lupus flare.
George however is fine. Back to his funny, bouncy kitty self. He has a bald tummy still ( where they did the ultrasound) and a bald scabby patch on his back where the abscess was, but he's good. Phew!

The Zoe app has has cases rising in Cornwall for the past couple of days.
Mind you, it also suggested I should get a covid test as it can't cope with more than three days of Vaccination side effects!

Just joining you all on the picnic blanket in an effort to stop myself screaming at certain posters cropping up across the board with negativity and misinformation about all aspects of this situation.

Bringing sausage rolls and a selection of canned cocktails.

Have MNHQ started moderating posts better, eg the ones suggesting a link between vaccine and infertility. In my view, it’s akin to the Andrew Wakefield MMR fraud and I’m getting quite angry about it!

Glad George is back to normal.

My friend had the Oxford vaccine last Saturday and is still poorly. Fatigue, aches and sickness. Her immune system is a bit excitable as she started reacting shortly after the needle went in.

Hope you feel a bit better soon. This has to be preferable to covid. I wonder if the second vaccine will have the same reaction or nothing as you’ve reacted now?

Our rates are rising here, but I think some of it must be down to testing for work etc. My DH gets a weekly test at work.I also heard that the teachers in school have to have 2 tests a week. That must bump the numbers up Id have thought. Fully expecting the rates to rise after the 8th March as all secondary school students have to get a test twice a week. So I guess it’s all the asymptomatic people it’s catching.

I’m ok with that. The sun is out. Birds are singing their hearts out and it feels like spring is coming.

@FuzzyPuffling

The Zoe app has has cases rising in Cornwall for the past couple of days. Mind you, it also suggested I should get a covid test as it can't cope with more than three days of Vaccination side effects!

The Zoe app isn't great for local areas I don't think. It bounces up and down a lot, try not to be too concerned.

My area went up 1000 one week and down 900 the next! Not sure how their algorithms work.

I lost you lot!
Not great news but my local areas cases are rising
Still feeling positive for the future though.

Don’t forget that the lower cases are the more random fluctuation will result in some little local rises even with an overall trend down.
My area is a good example, it’s been pretty low throughout but several times over the last month or so it has gone red for a day or two then carried on green again. Last week it was just a difference of one case.

Fully expecting the rates to rise after the 8th March as all secondary school students have to get a test twice a week. So I guess it’s all the asymptomatic people it’s catching

Also parents of primary children can get tested too. As I have DC in secondary and another in primary that means me and DH will be doing LFT twice weekly too. Do those show up in cases or only if we report it? As far as I'm aware we can see the results ourselves so would we then have to report it to the NHS in some way?

that's very good about parents of primary aged kids getting tests - that includes me. I want to see more detail about how it's going to work though. definitely not compulsory but a good thing if most parents will do it.

@UmbilicusProfundus it’s truly awful. I’m enraged by people saying they are following the science whilst doing the opposite.
There’s going to be a lot of people with time on their hands when this is over ...

Yes cases will increase abs unfortunately it will then give people an opportunity to say something must close sadly.

Lovely sunny day here, off for a run.
My good news - am day 8 of fast diet and lost 6lbs!

I didn’t know parents of primary school children were getting tested. That includes me if so. I hadn’t heard that. Anyone know how to find out more?

We were told at the end of last week, my LA was apparently part of a pilot but it seems everywhere now. I'm not testing twice weekly, I don't want to do that but I have ordered some just in case.

Feeling confused by this testing stuff

I’ve been asked for consent from secondary so far

@DobbyTheHouseElk

www.gov.uk/guidance/rapid-lateral-flow-testing-for-households-and-bubbles-of-school-pupils-and-staff

apparently true and we can order from tomorrow

@OrangeBananaFish
I don't think ltf tests are recorded 'officially' - someome please correct me if i'm wrong though.
But if you get a positive you are supposed to go along to get a proper lab test to confirm it.

I knew about getting a proper test to confirm LTF tests, just not sure if they're counted. So if not that means more proper tests for people already confirmed so cases probably will go up, but if these are asymptomatic cases then as long as people do as they should and self isolate most of these shouldn't be too problematic for the NHS. I think, happy to be corrected if I'm wrong

am fairly sure a proper test to confirm ltf test would be counted - not sure how it would not be?

Well yes the proper test would be counted, but not the LFT so all these negative LTF we wont know about, but some will be positive and these will then get confirmed by a proper test which might not have been carried out. So more positive tests, but asymptomatic do therefore not a huge problem as long as people self isolate. Thats my understanding

Hang on - so does that mean as parents of a primary school child we have to be tested twice a week? That'll be three of us in this house being tested twice a week.

[quote Frazzled2207]@OrangeBananaFish
I don't think ltf tests are recorded 'officially' - someome please correct me if i'm wrong though.
But if you get a positive you are supposed to go along to get a proper lab test to confirm it.[/quote]
The government dashboard seems to suggest that positives from lateral flow tests are included in the case numbers.

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases

oh ok .I stand corrected. There must be some way of recording the info then. But surely they can't count on everybody getting access to LFTs a. bothering to do them at all or b. doing whatever they need to do to upload the info.

plus that's not ideal if it means that one positive case is counted twice! But good overall if someone that otherwise didn't know they had it now knows they have it.

That’s interesting about parents being tested, hadn’t seen that!

I have one at primary and one at secondary, his school are doing tests all this week to get them all back on 8th if all goes well 🤞