Israel has done it: Freedom Badges for the vaccinated

[ragged]

Green badges, let you go to restaurants, synagogues, swimming pools, shopping malls, etc.

I can't tell if the unvaxxed would be allowed to go to supermarket or send their kids to school.

Surely it will be a very short term measure.

Hopefully it will be as successful as the daft qr codes to get into restaurants. That lasted all of three weeks.

I’m not in any priority list as I’m mid 40s.

So I get to teach 150+ pupils a day but I can’t go out for a meal because I won’t be vaccinated - even though I’m desperate to be to feel safe at work?!

Fuck that.

I think they’ve done an excellent job rolling out their vaccination programme so efficiently.

However, I totally disagree with this freedom pass, it’s a slippery slope, just look at history to see why and I think it will cause tension in communities.

@bluetongue

What’s to stop you borrowing a badge from a vaccinated friend or buying a copy on the black market?

Nothing presumably. UK already has places you can buy forged test results as they are cheaper than the cost of the private test required for booking flights.

This is so so stupid and considering it's Israel of all states I'm actually open-mouthed at it.

Wow.

As much as I loathe and detest the state of Israel, I have to say I think this is a good idea. You could have a credit card-sized card with your picture on, like a driving licence.

The aim should be to get back to normal life with as few deaths as possible and this would be a means to that end.

Is this just a short term badge? What about the mutants that will come along and need a different vaccine next year?

The fact that any physical card/badge can be forged means the system won’t work in reality.

It’s an app, not a physical badge, according to the bbc report:
A number of other facilities are now able to reopen including gyms, hotels and synagogues. However they require a "green passport", a certificate that can only be obtained once you have been vaccinated. A small number of people who have recovered from the virus and are not currently eligible for the vaccine are also able to obtain the certificate.
The passport, which is contained in an app, is issued by the health ministry and will be valid for six months, one week after the second dose

If it means getting back to normal I’d get it tattooed on me!

Much rather that than living under restrictions - but then I’ve never been a fan of global sufferage.

I do t see why some people should be restricted from having a full life just because some people cant

@IchhabekeineAhnung

It’s an app, not a physical badge, according to the bbc report: A number of other facilities are now able to reopen including gyms, hotels and synagogues. However they require a "green passport", a certificate that can only be obtained once you have been vaccinated. A small number of people who have recovered from the virus and are not currently eligible for the vaccine are also able to obtain the certificate. The passport, which is contained in an app, is issued by the health ministry and will be valid for six months, one week after the second dose

An app - given comments on forgery this would help

Are UK people getting something that is proof of their vaccination status when UK people get jabbed? A card or a QR code or something they can show on their phones? I know Americans are getting vaccination cards. I imagine they will be easily lost.

2000 vaccine doses finally get into Gaza... 4 days ago. Priority to organ transplant recipients. More about slow roll out to West Bank & Gaza. I mean, it's a bit of epidemic-control loophole given how reliant Israel is on Palestinian Labour.

@XenoBitch

Ugh. My mum had her vaccine today and the person doing it insisted on putting the "I had my vaccine" sticker on display on my mum's coat.

I was told I was being "given a phone sticker"

I put it on my hand gel bottle (I top it up). It's still there's as it stuck fast but it does make me smile umpteen times a day as I gel my hands that we are on our way to the end.

But like others - like fuck I'd wear a green badge. Vaccinate everyone who wants one then problem solved!

@ragged

Are UK people getting something that is proof of their vaccination status when UK people get jabbed? A card or a QR code or something they can show on their phones? I know Americans are getting vaccination cards. I imagine they will be easily lost.

2000 vaccine doses finally get into Gaza... 4 days ago. Priority to organ transplant recipients. More about slow roll out to West Bank & Gaza. I mean, it's a bit of epidemic-control loophole given how reliant Israel is on Palestinian Labour.

When I had my pfeizer I got a handwritten cardboard card with name date and batch number on and the next appointment date. They will put the batch number on that when I have it mid April.

@Totallydefeated

Also surprised people in Israel are standing for this.

It won’t fly here. We’ve never accepted anything like and ID card, and won’t be doing so now. If they try, it’ll end up being Boris’s Poll Tax.

We have accepted mass deprivation of our civil liberties and human rights haven't we

@motherrunner

I’m not in any priority list as I’m mid 40s.

So I get to teach 150+ pupils a day but I can’t go out for a meal because I won’t be vaccinated - even though I’m desperate to be to feel safe at work?!

Fuck that.

Do you live in Israel?

This is fun from Israel:

"Everyone 18+ who gets the vaccine in my city in Israel tonight gets free pizza and beer plus a voucher for 10 free visits to the local gym!"

@bluetongue

What’s to stop you borrowing a badge from a vaccinated friend or buying a copy on the black market?

This, also, you could be violently attacked and robbed of your badge as they would be vulnerable. Terrible idea. I think a stamp in your passport would work better here.

I dare say getting a vaccine is easier than mugging people for them.

Looks like the badges are mostly digital.
I imagine letting friends 'borrow' the digital badge could happen if someone forgot their own login (or claimed to).

Badges are pointless. They can be lent, borrowed, stolen, sold. You could be mugged for them.

Vaccinations work. We all hate lockdown. It will stop when the majority are vaccinated, not before. Trying to get moving now will slow us down. I wish people would see this. I am desperate to see friends, go back to work, see family, live properly, go on holiday, sort out my parents' house that has stood empty for a year. I am more than desperate for my poor DC to restart uni life with a possibility of a social life and a chance to make friends.

What I dread is too many people going 'I've had enough' and spreading the new variants and then it all rolls round again. Another year of tiers and lockdowns. Another generation of school children and students' education and socialisation wrecked. Another shaft of clinging-by-thier-fingertips businesses going to the wall.

Wouldn't a vaccination badge be attached digitally to your id card in Israel? Everyone carries their id card with them. So if you borrowed or stole a badge you would also have to steal their identity.

I’m in the UAE and I think this will happen here soon. The good news is that our app is linked to our ID, so forgery isn’t possible. And they aren’t vaccinating in any particular order - anyone can walk into any health care centre and be vaccinated (for free) at any time. Most people I know, including labourers and shop and cafe workers have been done.

I don't think it's a literal wear-it-pinned-on badge

Pix accompanying the story show that it is digital on a smartphone (personal on screen QR?)

I do think that as it's Israel leading with this system, and calling it a badge; that does address some potential criticism of whether it is acceptable think to do in marking the population according to the vaccination status

If it's an app.. what about all the folk who don't have smart phones to load an app on?