16.8 million people vaccinated already - brilliant!

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This is a continuation of the previous thread, www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4155962-10-million-people-vaccinated-already-brilliant

This thread is intended as a positive place to discuss our remarkable vaccine rollout as it progresses and to celebrate the ever increasing numbers as we go.

Polite notice: conspiracy theorists, doommongers and those looking for endless debate over vaccine efficacy, leave vs remain or anything else along those lines - this is probably not the thread for you.

So, to pick up from where we left off... a mind-blowing 16,875,536 people in the UK have now received their first dose of the vaccine - that’s 32% (or 1 in every 3.1) of all UK adults.

Every day, hundreds of thousands more people are gaining excellent levels of protection against this sodding virus. So, let’s keep jab jab jabbing our way onwards, upwards and out of this. Covid, we’re coming for ya!!!

Thanks @Frazzled2207 I forgot about J&J too
It seems they’ve started a rolling review on Novavax, so hopefully they’ll get all the data they need soon

www.pharmatimes.com/news/multiple_rolling_reviews_kick-off_for_novavaxs_covid-19_vaccine_1362778

Thanks @lurker I had missed that!

where are the numbers! :)

Owing to an issue with the processing of cases data, the update for 3 March 2021 is delayed.

Hugo gye
208,968 additional vaccine doses registered in Flag of England yesterday (181,316 1st doses, 27,652 2nd doses)

36,623 in Flag of Scotland
21,597 in Flag of Wales

NHS England tells vacc centres:
Supplies of the vaccine will be 'minimal' this week
They will double from next Weds and stay high for 'several weeks'
All doses should be administered in the week they're received

Yay for all those jabs and thank you for the information about supplies

They always said supply would be lumpy and it at least sounds like they are on top of the situation.

Nice little update on uptake in NI

www.health-ni.gov.uk/news/breakdown-vaccination-figures-issued

Finally numbers have been updated

People vaccinated
First dose total
20,703,615
Second dose total
895,412

224k 1st dose
51k 2nd dose

Is this the highest second dose ?

@EasterIssland

Finally numbers have been updated

People vaccinated
First dose total
20,703,615
Second dose total
895,412

224k 1st dose
51k 2nd dose

Is this the highest second dose ?

@EasterIssland yes it is, by a long way!

Morning, jab fans. Something just struck me. Every week we are jabbing 4-5% of the population, so in the five weeks between each stage of the reopening plan, another 20% of the population will be protected. That’s genius, isn’t it? Enough to significantly clamp down on infections even with the additional mixing which will come at each step.

Some rough calculations of % population vaccinated at each step:

8th March: 34%
29th March: 47%
12th April: 55%
17th May: 75%
21st June: well it would be 95%, but it can’t be because we’re not vaccinating children. But basically all adults who are willing and can be got to a vaccination centre or visited at home could be protected by then. And of the unvaccinated, probably 20% will have been infected already. So... herd immunity?

Definitely @PuzzledObserver especially considering many of those at the younger end of the priority lists are likely to receive “one-shot” J&J vaccines, so will be “done” other than any later boosters required for new variants

@PuzzledObserver

Morning, jab fans. Something just struck me. Every week we are jabbing 4-5% of the population, so in the five weeks between each stage of the reopening plan, another 20% of the population will be protected. That’s genius, isn’t it? Enough to significantly clamp down on infections even with the additional mixing which will come at each step.

Some rough calculations of % population vaccinated at each step:

8th March: 34%
29th March: 47%
12th April: 55%
17th May: 75%
21st June: well it would be 95%, but it can’t be because we’re not vaccinating children. But basically all adults who are willing and can be got to a vaccination centre or visited at home could be protected by then. And of the unvaccinated, probably 20% will have been infected already. So... herd immunity?

something to keep in mind would be how the 2nd jab is going to affect the numbers from end march on (I know there is plans to double the numbers but I'll believe it when I see it) and also i.e. despite 1 jab provides good value it's not still full protection, so those vaccinated in June won't be full til September.

I'm Spanish and for being able to travel over there with the famous passport I'll need both jabs, so the sooner I get the 1st one will be the better as It'd mean less hassle for me, and ii guess many people will be in the same situation. Not sure whether herd will be achieved with 1 dose or both.

something to keep in mind would be how the 2nd jab is going to affect the numbers from end march on (I know there is plans to double the numbers but I'll believe it when I see it) and also i.e. despite 1 jab provides good value it's not still full protection, so those vaccinated in June won't be full til September.

Whilst true for now, surely once everyone has had their first dose, the younger ones won't need to wait 12 weeks for their second. By Summer, the vaccinations centres won't be doing any (or minimal) first doses, so they can do second doses quicker as they'll be set up for the higher numbers?

Just as first doses to group 9 finish, second doses to group 1 ramp up. In theory this takes away all first dose capacity from groups 10+ until they've finished second-dosing group 9, unless we do get the promised ramp up in supply.

@user1497207191

something to keep in mind would be how the 2nd jab is going to affect the numbers from end march on (I know there is plans to double the numbers but I'll believe it when I see it) and also i.e. despite 1 jab provides good value it's not still full protection, so those vaccinated in June won't be full til September.

Whilst true for now, surely once everyone has had their first dose, the younger ones won't need to wait 12 weeks for their second. By Summer, the vaccinations centres won't be doing any (or minimal) first doses, so they can do second doses quicker as they'll be set up for the higher numbers?

that's my hope my bil is having his 2nd Pfizer within 8w from the 1st one so I guess it's not wait for 12w. and yes janseen will help speeding up protection in the young ones with just 1 dose needed

@EasterIssland that’s interesting about requiring both jabs for entry to Spain. Do you know how that’s being received by the press in Spain, given their decision to only offer one dose to those having had recent infection (alongside Italy)? I can’t imagine that would be popular here, so wonder how it’s being reported there. As you would expect any conditions for entry to be reciprocal.

[quote lurker101]@EasterIssland that’s interesting about requiring both jabs for entry to Spain. Do you know how that’s being received by the press in Spain, given their decision to only offer one dose to those having had recent infection (alongside Italy)? I can’t imagine that would be popular here, so wonder how it’s being reported there. As you would expect any conditions for entry to be reciprocal.[/quote]
It’s not still sure about Spain as they don’t know about the passport. However Iceland requires both and also does Slovenia I believe (I was looking at several European countries’ requirements the other day) that’s why I assume it’ll be both.

From the evidence on AZ, it would be better NOT to do the 2nd jab early.

Come Autumn, we may be rolling out boosters for improved protection against new variants, alongside finishing up 2nd jabs. Plus, there is likely to be some people who didn’t get the jab when eligible, either through choice or circumstances, but who want it at a later date. I guess GP’s could mop those up, though.

my bil is having his 2nd pfizer in 8 weeks instead of 12. haven't heard when IL are having their 2nd one

Lets see when all these 2nd round affects the rest ... as mentioned yesterday was the biggest 2nd dose by far since the beginning

user1497207191
By Summer, the vaccinations centres won't be doing any (or minimal) first doses, so they can do second doses quicker as they'll be set up for the higher numbers?

I know of a convention in late August which has been cancelled because the hotel it was due to happen in is a vaccination centre and will still be one at that time, and I rather assume that would have to be to give second doses. (Originally the organisers were planning only to allow people who'd been vaccinated to come to the convention, but then discovered that wouldn't work.)

I volunteer (not medical) at a hub - shut this week and most of last due to no supply or supply being diverted elsewhere however, from 11th or 12th March they are doubling up jabs to deal with 1st & 2nd doses so will be approx 16 people every 10 minutes or so I believe. 2nd doses will be Pfizers. Nadhim Zahawi said NHS had reserved those. Firsts likely to be AZ.

In Wales I know basically they are using most/all the Pfizers for second doses now. Hence early 70s parents getting second dose next week after gap of just over a month 😀

231002 first and 44001 second doses given in England yesterday

Twitter @HugoGye

NHS England weekly stats published to 28th Feb. 1st dose has gone to:

95% of over-80s

100% of 75-79
95% of 70-74
85% of 65-69
21% of under-65s

93% of frontline NHS staff
88% of clinically extremely vulnerable
91% of older care residents
71% of care staff