16.8 million people vaccinated already - brilliant!

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This is a continuation of the previous thread, www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4155962-10-million-people-vaccinated-already-brilliant

This thread is intended as a positive place to discuss our remarkable vaccine rollout as it progresses and to celebrate the ever increasing numbers as we go.

Polite notice: conspiracy theorists, doommongers and those looking for endless debate over vaccine efficacy, leave vs remain or anything else along those lines - this is probably not the thread for you.

So, to pick up from where we left off... a mind-blowing 16,875,536 people in the UK have now received their first dose of the vaccine - that’s 32% (or 1 in every 3.1) of all UK adults.

Every day, hundreds of thousands more people are gaining excellent levels of protection against this sodding virus. So, let’s keep jab jab jabbing our way onwards, upwards and out of this. Covid, we’re coming for ya!!!

I was thinking this morning that we have 1.8m and 5 days to go to get to 20 million by the end of Feb. That means 360k a day.

Over 400k is wonderful! Looking forward to 4pm to see the final figure and also to see if cases and deaths have fallen more.

@AllAroundTheWrekin

DH is a teacher and 10 years older than me, he is gutted that he won't have his for a while.

It's terrible. He should get it now. Can't understand why not. I do hope he gets it soon.

I know there are loads of other threads about this but I heard someone on the radio explaining that it would take much longer to get through everyone if somehow they had to try and take everyone's occupations into account, there's no central register of what job everyone in the country has so logistically it would take ages to even find out and in that time you can literally have done millions of jabs so in the round everyone will be done more quickly under the current system.

I'm sure that's only one of many many reasons for doing at as they are but it made sense to me

I understand that, but local school has two teachers in group 6 and several older teachers. I just think they should have been vaccinated beforehand. I see it as a national disgrace.

It’s not a disgrace to vaccinate people based on clinical need

That's the point. Teachers with clinical need have not been vaccinated.

If they wanted to do occupation-based jabbing, they could go to workplaces. But in terms of efficiency and logistics, it makes more sense to continue with age-prioritisation at big hubs, perhaps use GP’s to follow up those who haven’t yet responded.

@TheWoollybacksWife asked about opening hubs to group 6 - I have no inside knowledge on this, but I’ve seen things on other threads which suggest this is logistically not as simple as we might assume. They are leaving group 6 to GP’s - which is fine if your GP is well-organised, not so great otherwise.

I wonder if a point will come when hubs will be open for walk-ins on the basis that everyone has been invited.

The walk in idea would speed things up at some point.

If teachers are older and/or clinically vulnerable then they will be in one of the priority groups for vaccination so should have been offered the vaccine already or it’s imminent.
The priority groups have been decided by the JCVI not by the Government. If you look at the membership of the JCVI you will see that it consists of highly qualified medical professionals. Their view is that for every person you vaccinate who isn’t in the most vulnerable group, that’s somebody in the most vulnerable group who isn’t getting their vaccine and is more likely to die. Therefore they can’t justify generally prioritising teachers for the vaccine.

As has been said, the problems with insisting that teachers get vaccinated now are a) how do you logistically do it and b) who do you push down the list to make way for the teachers? Is it ethical to say a 28 year old teacher should be vaccinated before a 55 year old who is arguably at greater risk due to their age? I’m not saying teachers shouldn’t get done, just pointing out that it is not an easy problem to solve.

Another way of getting teachers vaccinated quicker is for the school to get in touch with their local hubs. As I mentioned earlier in the thread we had an email from my son’s nursery this week to say that all staff had now received a first dose of the vaccine as they had teamed up with the local mass hub to be out in the standby list so at the end of each day they were on the list to be contacted if there were any spare doses left over.

I don’t know whether the nursery did it of their own accord or if it was a local health authority thing, but we’ve all heard about local police/first stations being called and offered spare doses so I can’t see why schools can’t get put on lists too. It’s not a guarantee but it might mean that they get done slightly earlier than before.

Our trust has open walked in for 3 hours a day for seven day at their hubs for those with evidence of the current eligible groups. It’s shown that the group 6 only want local GP centres is a bit of a myth as it’s apparently been a success.

If teachers are older and/or clinically vulnerable then they will be in one of the priority groups for vaccination so should have been offered the vaccine already or it’s imminent.

Hasn't happened yet & won't be protected when schools go back. And for at least three weeks after they actually get it.

@AllAroundTheWrekin

That's the point. Teachers with clinical need have not been vaccinated.

But they are in the process of being vaccinated, as if they have clinical needs, they will be in group 6.

My friend, aged 60, teacher, is getting her vaccine this week. She booked and is getting hers by her age group. I am assuming all teachers 60+ can do the same.

I don’t know whether the nursery did it of their own accord or if it was a local health authority thing, but we’ve all heard about local police/first stations being called and offered spare doses so I can’t see why schools can’t get put on lists too. It’s not a guarantee but it might mean that they get done slightly earlier than before.

This would solve it for the vulnerable teachers.

It's group 6 teachers which are delayed.

18,691,835

28.0% of the total population

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@AllAroundTheWrekin

That's the point. Teachers with clinical need have not been vaccinated.

Neither are police officers, delivery drivers or other workers that are in the priority list if there area hasn't got to them yet. Your point is?

My area and two neighbouring areas are down to over 50s in age groups and cev. Probably due to London's bad take up. However the plus side is anyone from the list that wants a jab will get done very soon.

Must better numbers today 🥳🥳🥳

Current 7-day average 324,108, but this includes some days with low numbers. But based on that 7 day average figure, we are 11 days away from vaccinating 1 in 3 of the total UK population. Likely to be sooner than that though, especially if the daily average gets closer to today's daily total of 448,962.

So in 10 days or less we should hit that figure of 1 in 3 of the total population.

No offense but can we please not make this yet another thread about teachers getting vaccinated. They will be done with the rest of us according to clinical need. Group 6 teachers are not being deliberately delayed.

Hurrah 448 962 vaccinated yesterday!!!!! Dashboard just updated.

Plus 31 613 second doses.

2nd dose rate is ramping up every day.

So many good news today and numbers !!!

Sorry, did not mean to derail with a teacher remark. DH isn't vulnerable so he will just have to wait along with everyone else.

Really good numbers for yesterday - it is ramping up again.

The numbers are amazing.
Well done to everyone who is making this happen.

Ds is a teacher aged 46 who had a kidney removed 18 months ago because he had kidney cancer and he was contacted by his Gp practice yesterday and was asked if he wanted his vaccine. The answer of course was yes so he is having his vaccine next Tuesday.

Dd is also a teacher but she is only 28 and knows she will have to wait. Her Dh works in the command centre of the local fire service and he was offered a vaccine by the local hospital as they had some spares to use up.

Dh and I are now waiting for our second vaccination towards the end of April.