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Support thread for those of us with family abroad

291 replies

TwirpingBird · 16/02/2021 19:23

I just read on sky news that Nicola Sturgeon has said foreign holidays will be 'unlikely' this summer. As much as this sucks for people who were living for a week in spain (arent we all!), for those of us who have parents or family who live a plane journey away, I guess this means another long while before we get to see our loved ones again.

I dont really know what I want from this thread, but I know many people on MN are coming up to a year away from their loved ones, and facing most of this year away from them, so instead of crying into another glass of prosecco, i thought i would start this thread, so we maybe dont feel so alone.

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TravellingTilbury · 18/02/2021 10:58
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TwirpingBird · 18/02/2021 11:01

I had a full on argument with Boris Johnson in my head today while vigorously doing the hoovering. I only realised when I finished that I had been shouting out loud at him ..... imaginary him ....

I think it need to try calm down a bit.

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newstart1234 · 18/02/2021 11:01

I’ve been very sad though I don’t cry in front of my DC. I smiled the other day and my child said ‘wow you look so pretty’, that’s how rare it is 😔

Cpl1586407 · 18/02/2021 11:28

@TwirpingBird my bff tries a little of this "we're all in it together" despite the fact that she's seen her family multiple times this year Hmm

I feel like my concerns are really brushed aside as being hysterical when I say things like "what if one of them gets sick and dies and I cant even get there to hold them?" It takes me 24 hours to get to where they live pre-pandemic, let alone now Sad

People just don't get it and I'm so jealous of people who can see their family even just through a window Sad

JassyRadlett · 18/02/2021 11:31

Oh @newstart1234. Hugs.

I’ve just booked flights home for Christmas because I’m the world’s biggest mug. In my head, Scott Morrison will announce at the end of November that they’ve finished their vaccine programme and he’s throwing open the borders and ditching hotel quarantine. And I’ll ring my mum and say ‘guess what, we’ll see you next week!’

Knowing her, she’s probably done exactly the same in reverse...

Meanwhile she sent me a hamper this morning as a care package, and has sent the kids ‘lockdown gifts’. Had a bit of a sob.

cooperage · 18/02/2021 11:41

My teenage DS hasn't seen his dad, who lives in Europe, since last summer.

He's booked to go in the Easter holidays but it's SO complicated, what with all the Covid tests (he'll need at least 4 for a 9-day stay), quarantine, paperwork to prove his right to travel and the age it takes to get there because there are no regional flights, not to mention the cost of it all, it feels like a military campaign. And it still might not happen. Poor lad. It used to be so easy.

TwirpingBird · 18/02/2021 11:47

@JesyRadlett christ you made me well up now. My mom choked up on facetime the other day apologising because she hadnt sent the girls anything. Where she lives they cant even buy clothes in tesco. All non essential stuff is cordoned off. She lives in the middle of nowhere so amazon doesnt deliver to her. She cant really figure how to get amazon to get stuff to us. She said 'I got stuff for DD1, stuff you needed. At this rate DD2 wont even know I exist'. She was never one for material stuff, she always did things with my DD1, but she is trying anything to bond with my 3 month old. Her eyes teared up.

Oh god i just had another cry thinking about it. The poor woman doesnt cry, ever. Stoic isnt the word.

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PricklyBob · 18/02/2021 11:58

Thank you for this thread. I've considered starting something like this a few times but scared of all the "ALL borders must be closed" "Your family signed up for this" holier than thou types. I'm really heartened to see such a supportive community growing here.

My parents retired abroad 20 years ago, so my siblings and I are here in the UK and parents are overseas. The country in which they live has been very strict with border restrictions throughout. I last saw my parents in October 2019. Since covid hit, my dad's cancer (which he has lived with for years) has been confirmed terminal. He likely doesn't have long left. A few months if we are lucky. On top of this, he recently had a heart attack. We were told this was likely the end but he somehow rallied enough to hang on in there. He's a shell of a man now though and it's heartbreaking to be so far away. I facetime my mum three times per week and she often just sits and cries through the call as she is barely coping with my dad's illness, the 24hr care she now has to give and the lack of respite and support. My dad rarely comes on camera because he can't see or hear video calls anymore.

Every latest news report about closing borders, quarantining etc is like a knife through my heart. Worse are the raft of inevitable SM comments and MN threads about selfish folk wanting to traipse the world during a pandemic. I've unfriended someone formerly very close to me, due to her views on the subject. I know I torture myself by reading the comments but I can't stop.

I know that my father is likely to die soon and that I won't be there at the end and most likely will not attend his funeral. I won't be able to comfort my mother in the days and weeks afterwards, other than through a screen. It's not the same and I cry most days when I think about this situation.

My parents' adoptive country also has mandatory hotel quarantining (thankfully paid for by their government though) but this means that, in order to go out there, I have to add on two weeks in a hotel there, plus two weeks when I get back. I can't take this amount of time away from work and it also makes it impossible to plan - do I go out soon? Assuming I can then spend some time with my dad but, in doing so, forfeit the liklihood of being at his funeral later? Or do I wait until we are told the end is nigh and then run the risk of him dying while I'm sitting alone in a hotel room. Funerals in their country also have to legally take place within 48 hours of death so whatever happens, there is a strong likliehood that I won't be there. Then, I get the pleasure of returning to the UK and being placed again in solitary confinement for two weeks during what is likely to be an extremely low point for my mental health, dealing with bereavement and worried sick about having left my mum alone. Plus I'll get charged £1750 for the privilege which is money I don't have (hence being alone - we definitely don't have funds for DH to be with me)

DH and I spoke about this yesterday. He feels that, as gut-wrenching as it is - I need to make peace with not being there for my dad's end of life and focus on supporting my mum from afar. He thinks that it makes more sense for me to focus on hopefully being able to take multiple trips to support her later on, once we can travel more freely without quarantine. I know that, rationally, he is correct but I just can't get my head around not being there.

Of course, the other issue is whether flights will be freely available after all of this. Another reason why I feel gut-punched at each new travel restriction ( and yes, rationally, I know it's the right thing to do) is the fear of airlines going bust, travel routes being cancelled or prices rising to a point that it's not feasible to visit my mum in the future. Even in this current situation, friends keep telling me that the travel restrictions shouldn't apply to me and if my dad is nearing the end, I should definitely go abroad... but flights aren't like a taxi service, my parents don't live in a country with business links with the UK and flights have already been slashed. I can't just phone up the airport to say my dad is dying, can you fly me out at 2pm today. The flights need to exist in the fist place.

Sorry, I didn't mean to write a huge "woe-is-me" post but this situation is really getting to me. Hugs to everyone separated from family in this situation. It's so hard.

SparkysMagicPiano · 18/02/2021 12:22

@PricklyBob

That must be heartbreaking for you, I am so sorry that you are in this position. Flowers

TwirpingBird · 18/02/2021 12:24

Ah @PricklyBob. That's just devastating! I cant imagine how you are holding it together. There is no easy decision to ensure you get to see him. Like you said, of course you are perfectly right to do what you can to see him, but your hands are tied really. It's just heartbreaking. FlowersFlowers

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newstart1234 · 18/02/2021 12:47

That’s devastating pricklybob. Devastating. I’m so sorry

TangerineGenie · 18/02/2021 13:02

Even in this current situation, friends keep telling me that the travel restrictions shouldn't apply to me and if my dad is nearing the end, I should definitely go abroad... but flights aren't like a taxi service

Yep, getting somewhere in a hurry isn't always feasible even if allowed. The flights we normally get aren't running so couldn't get there in an emergency.

SpaceRaiders · 18/02/2021 13:16

YY I think people haven’t realised that all those reasonably priced direct flights to far flung places will most likely not return for years to come. Posing even further difficulties for those of us who have to travel 10 hrs + to see family.

JassyRadlett · 18/02/2021 13:22

Oh pricklybob I’m so so sorry. That’s such a nightmare situation and there are no right answers. I’m so very very sorry.

TheElementsSong · 18/02/2021 13:31

@PricklyBob I'm so sorry to hear about your situation Flowers

SandrasAnnoyingFriend · 18/02/2021 13:33

Thank god I found this thread amongst the vehement 'we must accept that there'll be no international travel for the foreseeable future' proclamations.
My partners 11yo son lives with his mum in Spain and ordinarily they'd see one another every 6 weeks for at least a long weekend, longer trips over holidays.
At present he has t seen him since August last year when we managed to get him over for 3 weeks.
It's killing him and the sadness just keeps on growing. I'd give up every other freedom to just be able to reunite them. No parent should have to be away from their child. It's inhumame.

MarshaBradyo · 18/02/2021 13:40

PricklyBob I had a bit of a cry reading your so very difficult situation. So, so hard. Flowers
I think the timing part is gut wrenching part added on top.

FloconDeNeige · 18/02/2021 13:53

Finally a thread for people in the same boat! I must admit that reading the ‘I can’t stop sobbing as I’ve not seen my family since NY’ type posts are wearing thin on me now. Like many of you, we haven’t seen my family in the UK since October 2019. My youngest was a baby then and has changed beyond all recognition now! We last saw DH’s family in the south of France, at Christmas in 2019. We’re in Switzerland.

We video call every week but it’s obviously no real substitute. We were hoping to get back for Easter but I doubt that will happen 😔

FloconDeNeige · 18/02/2021 14:15

@PricklyBob

So sorry to hear of your heart-wrenching situation.

I also understand your concern about future travel infrastructure; I wonder the same. Before this, there were daily flights between my local airport and UK home city, but they’ve been suspended. Supposed to re-start at the end of March. 🤞🏻

TwirpingBird · 18/02/2021 14:21

I worry about the future of aviation too. I am just hoping that all the holiday homes in mainland europe thay the MPs have will mean they wont let airlines go under. BJ has got to be able to get to his Daddys villa in Greece (not that he flies Ryanair, but still).

@FlocondeNeige I understand your frustration. My MIL regularly says (usually with a stupid pout and fake crying voice) 'I miss my babies! I havent seen you in so long'. Firstly, MIL, your son is 30 and balding. Not a baby. Secondly, we saw you 3 weeks ago. Chill your beans. Could be worse, you could be me 😆

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Shehz21 · 18/02/2021 14:31

The thing that gets to me the most is people in situations like @PricklyBob don't even have a way out due to the stringent travel restrictions.
I work for my local council in HS and I am all too aware of why we have such restrictions pushed upon us for the time being and the foreseeable future.
However I really believe some of us should have some kind of exemption to see terminally ill family members. I do understand that with the majority of people in the UK having their family members/relatives in the same country can't relate at all to us lot(typical human behavior not to care about things that don't affect them personally), so I don't personally begrudge anyone for not understanding.
But I would genuinely like to think things are not going to be as sinister as some people think. I would like to believe that whilst all of us made the decision to like here "at the cost of being at a distance" from our family,none of us could ever think that a situation as grave as a pandemic would arise, that would stop us from being able to jump on the next flight to see our families.
Think I'm rambling a bit now as I feel very emotional, I have cried with my parents most. Last year my brother got married then I also lost my nan. I made peace with not having been there for both those things now but I just can't accept that I won't be seeing my family this year.

A little piece of goodnews in these horrendous times is that my homecountry(Mauritius)has finally confirmed that vaccinated individuals can visit September onwards without quarantine.
Mauritius depends heavily on tourism but still closed their borders to everyone then reopened with a strict 14 day quarantine process since May last year. Their tourism sector has been badly affected but they are finally agreeing that the country has to reopen completely this year, admittedly just to vaccinated individuals.

Shehz21 · 18/02/2021 14:34

[quote FloconDeNeige]@PricklyBob

So sorry to hear of your heart-wrenching situation.

I also understand your concern about future travel infrastructure; I wonder the same. Before this, there were daily flights between my local airport and UK home city, but they’ve been suspended. Supposed to re-start at the end of March. 🤞🏻[/quote]
Got my fingers crossed for you Flocon!
I think slowly but surely(or atleast during the summer)lots of countries which have strict quarantine process will be open to travellers or atleast the vaccinated travellers and there will be travel corridors again. A tory led government gives me faith that they won't let the aviation industry go under (coming from a Labour voter).

TwirpingBird · 18/02/2021 14:38

@Shehz21 oh that's such good news! Hopefully more countries will follow suit. We all live in hope.

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Wavesandsmilesencore · 18/02/2021 14:39

I’m another one so happy to find this thread and feel a little less alone! I relocated for work 2 years ago (to EU) and from an island which has been relatively covid free but with very tight border restrictions. My little two haven’t seen their dad in 18 months when we were last there, and my mum we last saw December 2019 when she visited here. I’m a few weeks off giving birth and my relationship here broke down so I’m desperately worried about things going wrong as my kids just have me here now 😢. As others have said, even if I could get compassionate grounds for my mum to travel here, she wouldn’t have had the second vaccine until after I’m due, and even then the flights are so sporadic as to make the prospect of a journey similar to planning a covert military operation! So, I don’t expect we will see her here and our best chance is going to be some relaxation in quarantine and increase in flights or boats that mean we could get back for the summer. Sadly, this also feels like wishful thinking.

I’m seriously considering efforts to move back home, I’ve never felt so lonely and homesick in my life, and keeping it together for my children is harder each day 😢

Huge hugs to everyone

FloconDeNeige · 18/02/2021 14:56

@Wavesandsmilesencore

Oh that is very tough, indeed. Being alone in a foreign country is one thing, but add in dependent children and being pregnant too and it’s a whole other board game. No wonder you’re feeling worried.

Do you have any support in the country you’re in?

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