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Shielding list to be virtually doubled

446 replies

Bonsa · 16/02/2021 14:21

And go from 2.2 million to 3.9 million.

Breaking news...

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TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 18/02/2021 08:46

Teachers who are cv or ecv should either be done or be done soon which is reassuring. And then it will be age groups down to 50. It does mean within a few weeks all vulnerable or older teachers should be covered.

Thebiggerpicture · 18/02/2021 08:47

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/22/covid-19-britain-ethnic-minorities-government-race-inequality-epidemic
The govt knew about this link with ethnicity risk months ago (this article is dated October last year) and knew it as early as June. They refused to act for fear of stirring 'racial tension' sound familiar? (Cases such as the Rochdale child abuse scandal)
The last part is interesting, suggesting there would be a larger 'second wave' if the govt didn't act...and look what happened!

Shell4429 · 18/02/2021 08:55

@Haenow

Talk about shutting the stable door when the horse has bolted. Hmm
Well, no, because the people who will be shielding aren’t dead Hmm
Gyptian · 18/02/2021 09:39

I’ve just done the risk calculator and I’m very confused. My Covid death risk despite having asthma was slightly lower compared to someone else my age without any risk factors but my risk of hospitalisation was slightly higher. I’ve read about how some asthma treatments can potentially protect against severe symptoms. Could it be that? Also, does anyone know why having a previous fracture increases the risk?

Nanuki · 18/02/2021 09:58

@Gyptian I would read the entire thread - it's all answered and linked re. asthma :-) But yes basically it's a protective factor for most people.

Rockbird · 18/02/2021 11:06

Well that answered that. Within the space of the last half hour I got a vaccine invite from the GP and a shielding email. So relieved to get the vaccine, considerably less so to get the email 😩

BungleandGeorge · 18/02/2021 11:08

It’s osteoporotic fractures in older people that are the risk, they are generally linked to poorer outcomes. The specific fractures linked are often found in this group . However, breaking a bone because of high force trauma like skiing, falling off a trampoline aged 6 is not a risk factor. It’s attempting to make something simple that isn’t as there are so many variables within each category but it’s better than the current system!

BungleandGeorge · 18/02/2021 11:12

@Rockbird, must be a bit of a shock this far into the pandemic. Nobody has to shield though, it’s your choice. Good that you’ve got the vaccine priority

Leetepp · 18/02/2021 12:56

I had a phone call Monday evening offering the vaccine, then vaccine Tuesday and an email saying I have been added to the shielding list today

SallyB392 · 18/02/2021 13:21

I just received an email from NHS to tell me that I have now been placed on CEV shielding list. I have diabetes, strokes, severe mental illness, thrombosis, rheumatoid arthritis, atrial fibrillation, can't remember what else is on the list!

FourthPersona · 18/02/2021 13:29

Oh so they are now listing why people have to shield, interesting. That's interesting, grateful to know exactly what conditions have put me on it!

BungleandGeorge · 18/02/2021 13:32

Has it come as a surprise to anyone to be advised to shield? Good that they have listed the conditions, at least you can check it’s accurate

WombatChocolate · 18/02/2021 13:34

How do you know they are now listing the reasons? Is that on the news, or were you told by surgery or in a letter? Thanks.

FourthPersona · 18/02/2021 13:39

literally says it three posts up

WombatChocolate · 18/02/2021 13:48

Fourth, that isn't what the poster said.
They actually listed the conditions they have...not that they were mentioned in the email about shielding.

Looking back at the last messages, I see it was you stating the NHS are now giving the reasons for shielding....clearly in response to the previous message. It was you, not the person with all the conditions saying they had been informed.

From all this, I conclude that the shielding letters do not specify the reasons. This fits with all the other info out there. Actually, it's all done centrally and not by the Doctor and sometimes they aren't clear either why someone has been added...but they can look into it and add/remove people based on their professional judgement. It's not great though, that people get Thai rather shocking letter or email and no explanation for why and also Doctor cannot always tell them why immediately either....a period of uncertainty and worry then,mesppecialybif entirely unexpected.

Pastelpainter · 18/02/2021 13:58

I have has an email too. The email address is something like NHS shielding patient list. Is the same one others got? Wanted to check it was genuine before I email it to my boss!

FourthPersona · 18/02/2021 14:05

I have diabetes, strokes, severe mental illness, thrombosis, rheumatoid arthritis, atrial fibrillation, can't remember what else is on the list!

Says on the list... but doesn't really bother affect me really either way.

And, my shielding letter was done, and signed, by my GP Surgery (2020) - it really isn't a one approach fits all.

WombatChocolate · 18/02/2021 14:19

Fourth, I think perhaps the way it was expressed by Sally wasn't entirely clear. I take it to mean she was naming her conditions and HER list, not that which appeared in the email. But, because she stated that immediately after mentioning the email, you took it to be info in the email...but she didn't actually say that. I can see why you might have thought she did though.

There's a lot of info out there on GP websites and government websites and sites for GPs saying people will receive letters or emails telling them they are at increased risk, but not specifying why. The info is based on use of QCOVID which his an algorithm for identifying increased risk and it is done centrally and not by GPs. This was so it could be sone speedily and the letters sent out fast so peop,e could shield ASAP once they knew their increased risk.

GP surgeries will see on their records that someone has been identified as higher risk but not why. They can then look at their records (which will take time) and see why and work it out, but if someone just rings to know why, that info won't be available instantly via a receptionist looking at records but will need a medical practitioner to look through the records. They can then add/remove people from the shielding list based on their professional knowledge. But all this takes time.

I can see why it's happened this way. It's for speed and so people can shield faster and reduce the risk as many haven't had vaccine yet. They can also be vaccinated faster. But it's very unsettling to get this letter or email out of the blue, with no explanation and all the implications it has for life, work, family etc. And getting answers if it's surprising as to why it's happened will take several days in most cases, so it's not a great communications example.

My GP has put a thing on their surgery website to people who get this email, saying they realise it's a big surprise to get it and they don't know the details behind it and not to call to ask, as they don't know. It explains how the algorithm has been used . However, unless you actively look at the GP website, you wouldn't see this info and only have your email.

Fozzleyplum · 18/02/2021 14:27

I haven't rtft, so others might have already made this point.

I wonder if the targeting of social factors, including ethnicity, is to drive it home to those in groups who are at increased risk from Covid, but who are also refusing the vaccine in large numbers, that they won't be safe until they are vaccinated.

ReginaTheEvilQueen · 18/02/2021 14:31

No email or letter in the post for me so looks like im not on the new list 😌

Pastelpainter · 18/02/2021 14:37

@ReginaTheEvilQueen

No email or letter in the post for me so looks like im not on the new list 😌
Mine went to my junk email so worth checking there too.
ReginaTheEvilQueen · 18/02/2021 14:52

Nope nothing, at least i know now that im not on the list

iwishiwasatcentralperk · 18/02/2021 17:20

Further to my comment yesterday saying I had a vaccine letter but not a shielding one, I have today received a shielding letter.

SymphonyofShadows · 18/02/2021 18:17

DH got a booking text from the GP yesterday but it’s fully booked. They must have sent out way more texts than they have slots for here, lots of people are reporting the same on local FB sites

AdaFuckingShelby · 18/02/2021 20:20

I'm on the new list but I have no underlying health conditions , I'm not overweight and I'm under 50. Going to ring my GP tomorrow to check out why. Reading the gov website it looks like it might be due to missing data.