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Venting about family and friends not sticking to rules thread

172 replies

nanbread · 12/02/2021 22:31

I'm feeling pissed off because I want this to end, but I know so many people of all ages and backgrounds who aren't sticking to Covid rules, and I feel like this sort of behaviour is prolonging us coming out of lockdown.

PIL have regular dinner dates (2/3 per week) with different people each time.

Friends and family members are going to each other's houses because they don't like walks. And not just locally either - in some cases traveling 50/60 miles to see friends.

Friends of my DC are having birthday parties inviting others - just slightly smaller ones, at home.

I'm not talking about people who are lonely or in MH crisis who need some human contact. I understand this situation is horrible, I hate it, and I don't blame them for wanting to socialise, but I'm annoyed that it is potentially costing my children more weeks and months off school, costing me more of my career, making me wait longer for a happier life.

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DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 08:55

@Flaxmeadow

Sorry you're getting a denier pile on OP. Sad the way some STILL don't understand the reasons for the restrictions and after all this time
Theres been not one Covid denier on this thread! Just because we dont think lockdowns are the appropriate or the proportionate response to this virus, doesnt make us deniers Miss Piers Morgan!
Flaxmeadow · 13/02/2021 09:01

Theres been not one Covid denier on this thread! Just because we dont think lockdowns are the appropriate or the proportionate response to this virus, doesnt make us deniers Miss Piers Morgan!

Posters are denying that lockdown works

Desmondo2016 · 13/02/2021 09:03

Duchessofhastings1 sorry it won't let me quote. Yes I get a lot of satisfaction out of every successful prosecution of criminals. Obviously more so when I've locked up sex offenders and child abusers!

The covid tickets I've been involved in have been businesses such as hairdresswrs and tattoo parlours continuing to trade in lockdown. Whatever your personal opinion is the law is the law and I simply have a job to do.

DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 09:04

How does that directly mean they're Covid deniers?
A Covid denier is someone who denies Covid Confused. Like this is all some big conspiracy by the government and theres no virus at all.
Someone who doesnt think lockdowns work is a lockdown denier.

Lockdowns have worked to lower cases but were still in the same boat a year on. They are not a sustainable response to this virus.

DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 09:05

@Desmondo2016

Duchessofhastings1 sorry it won't let me quote. Yes I get a lot of satisfaction out of every successful prosecution of criminals. Obviously more so when I've locked up sex offenders and child abusers!

The covid tickets I've been involved in have been businesses such as hairdresswrs and tattoo parlours continuing to trade in lockdown. Whatever your personal opinion is the law is the law and I simply have a job to do.

I know disgusting when people are trying to keep their businesses going and food in their children's mouths Hmm you must be something to get satisfaction from that.
Desmondo2016 · 13/02/2021 09:06

DuchessofHastings1 I also meant to say that I'm sorry you are feeling so angry about all of this and lashing out so much. Hopefully the end is nearly in sight and you'll be able to get your emotions back on an even keel soon.

OliveTree75 · 13/02/2021 09:06

@Desmondo2016

Duchessofhastings1 sorry it won't let me quote. Yes I get a lot of satisfaction out of every successful prosecution of criminals. Obviously more so when I've locked up sex offenders and child abusers!

The covid tickets I've been involved in have been businesses such as hairdresswrs and tattoo parlours continuing to trade in lockdown. Whatever your personal opinion is the law is the law and I simply have a job to do.

Glad you get satisfaction from that Confused
DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 09:14

@Desmondo2016

DuchessofHastings1 I also meant to say that I'm sorry you are feeling so angry about all of this and lashing out so much. Hopefully the end is nearly in sight and you'll be able to get your emotions back on an even keel soon.
My emotions will be on an even keel when me, my family and friends get our lives back. I've seen them lose the jobs, break down, the list goes on. And when we have people who are on this thread thinking lockdowns are the way to go and we just have to 'sit tight' this shit will never end.
Flaxmeadow · 13/02/2021 09:19

How does that directly mean they're Covid deniers?

I didn't call anyone a "covid denier".

megletthesecond · 13/02/2021 09:22

Some people are assholes. I knew that before this kicked off and I generally keep those people away from me.

Sadly they'll be the ones to continue this mess because they're so impatient.

BonnieDundee · 13/02/2021 09:22

If you get satisfaction from issuing fines for people to have a few people in their own home, or travelling 'non essentially' to a visit a family member, while nearly half of the spread is due to hospitals, then there is something seriously wrong with you.

Agree. Mistrust of the police by the public will be a problem when this is over. cressida dick actually promoting people shaming their friends and neighbours was frightening

Flaxmeadow · 13/02/2021 09:23

....Duchess

You do seem to be jumping on posters and accusing them of saying things they haven't said or accusing them of having certain emotions or motives, for example "getting satisfaction"

BonnieDundee · 13/02/2021 09:26

DuchessofHastings1 I also meant to say that I'm sorry you are feeling so angry about all of this and lashing out so much. Hopefully the end is nearly in sight and you'll be able to get your emotions back on an even keel soon.
And the award for most patronising-pretending-to-be-nice-while-being-an-absute-arsehole goes to......

Is that part of the police training now or did you learn that shit all by yourself?

NailsNeedDoing · 13/02/2021 09:29

It’s worth remembering that even people who are breaking the rules on occasion are still having to follow plenty of other rules. It’s not like the people who are spending a couple of hours inside a house with others are out there living life to the full without any restriction all day every day. It’s still pretty crap for most people.

Flaxmeadow · 13/02/2021 09:33

Why is there so much name calling and assumptions about posters motives

Yes we all know lockdown isn't easy, on any of us, but name calling or lashing out at other people is not the answer. Other posters did not cause this situation

PandemicPalava · 13/02/2021 09:35

A year ago I was furious with people who broke the rules and I argued for pages on a thread about my family breaking the rules. Now a year in I don't think it's sustainable any more. I'm not breaking the rules yet but I am considering meeting a friend with our daughters for a walk as they're both only children and would love to play with someone else, on a woodland dog walk. If anyone asks we will pretend one of us is single and we are a support bubble.

I'm also really struggling not seeing my Nan so I will be in her garden with the dog soon... it's the size of the local park so not being allowed makes no sense.

The government has eroded peoples trust and this is how people are responding. It's not ideal but I don't blame people any more.

I don't know what the answer is but with vaccines and better weather there is no way people are going to follow the rules religiously and the government blaming the people needs to stop.

studychick81 · 13/02/2021 09:35

I am not a covid denier or anti-lockdown. We have stuck to the rules about socialising outside of our bubble. But lockdown doesn't work long-term. Yes, it works during the lockdown period, numbers are lower, but we saw from the March and November lockdowns as soon as restrictions are eased cases rocket back up. It's a short term solution. I understand the need to protect the NHS, I was supportive of lockdown the first time round but it's not a sustainable solution. We are still in a bad place despite lockdowns. We didn't do it properly or quickly enough when we had the chance and now we are in this situation. I ve had enough of it.

Its astonishing how little comprehension some posters have of what lockdown means for others. As an 80 year old lockdown might mean you are bored and you fill your time with knitting and meditation, you re happy for lockdown to continue because you are being protected. You have had your vaccination so you're planning your summer holiday. How lovely!

But these younger people should stay locked up to protect you with no end in sight, they aren't getting their vaccinations anytime soon so no chance of a holiday. Lockdown for them is juggling work, studying, multiple children and homeschooling. Lockdown for them is no break for weeks on end and worries about loosing their business, house and the mental health of their dcs and themselves. It's very easy to have the view lockdown works and people should stick to the rules when you are in situation 1, not so much in situation 2.

OliveTree75 · 13/02/2021 09:36

@Flaxmeadow

....Duchess

You do seem to be jumping on posters and accusing them of saying things they haven't said or accusing them of having certain emotions or motives, for example "getting satisfaction"

That poster said they get satisfaction from issuing fines and then went on to say the fines they have been involved in were tattoo parlours and hairdressers continuing to trade. I think it is pretty shit that a police officer would admit that.
DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 09:36

@Flaxmeadow

....Duchess

You do seem to be jumping on posters and accusing them of saying things they haven't said or accusing them of having certain emotions or motives, for example "getting satisfaction"

She actually said she gets satisfaction from issuing the fines. Read what she said. I'm.accusing her of nothing.
hopsalong · 13/02/2021 09:39

*Being anti lockdown is a form of covid denial. It is denying that lockdowns work.

Lockdowns very obviously do work to control the spread of the virus*

Agh! What happened to logical thinking? In my more pessimistic moments I wonder if the UK's incredibly poor record on Covid is partly the result of an inadequate education system.

Being opposed to a strategy for dealing with X doesn't imply that X doesn't exist. If I disagree with sleep training, it doesn't mean that my baby doesn't have problems sleeping. If I don't want to go on the Atkins diet, it doesn't mean that I'm not fat or that I don't want to go on a diet.

Rather the opposite in fact. If anyone else was really convinced (for some crazed reason) that Covid didn't exist or wasn't a major problem, why would they be concerned with the solution?

Secondly, it's pretty meaningless to say that there's a benefit to lockdown without asking a) what the cost is and b) how effective it is compared to other interventions.

A drug that had the capacity to reduce the number of deaths from a disease by half would be good, with an illness with a really high mortality rate and which many people were likely to get. But we'd prefer a better one. With a disease with a lower mortality rate (like Covid) the certain risk of major side effects and the small risk of fatal ones would make it an unattractive option.

Flaxmeadow · 13/02/2021 09:39

Duchess
Ah yes I see that now.

DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 09:39

that poster said they get satisfaction from issuing fines and then went on to say the fines they have been involved in were tattoo parlours and hairdressers continuing to trade. I think it is pretty shit that a police officer would admit that.

Disgusting isn't it?

Fair enough students have cravings and massive house parties. That is shocking and careless.
But people having their family over for dinner or trying to make a living, despicable.

GiveMeNovocain · 13/02/2021 09:39

As 40% of spread is in hospitals and they discharged untested patients into care homes maybe save some ire for the people who allowed this to happen rather than the odd inside cuppa?

DuchessofHastings1 · 13/02/2021 09:39

Raves*

Desmondo2016 · 13/02/2021 09:41

But people think it's shit that Police deal with all manner of 'lower level' offending. I genuinely don't give a hoot! I have a job to do and I do get satisfaction out of dealing with offenders! It's why I'm a good copper 😄... It takes all sorts and the world (and mumsnet) would be a boring place if we all felt the same!

And no, the patronising wasn't taught in Police School lol, that's all my own 😉