Venting about family and friends not sticking to rules thread

[nanbread]

I'm feeling pissed off because I want this to end, but I know so many people of all ages and backgrounds who aren't sticking to Covid rules, and I feel like this sort of behaviour is prolonging us coming out of lockdown.

PIL have regular dinner dates (2/3 per week) with different people each time.

Friends and family members are going to each other's houses because they don't like walks. And not just locally either - in some cases traveling 50/60 miles to see friends.

Friends of my DC are having birthday parties inviting others - just slightly smaller ones, at home.

I'm not talking about people who are lonely or in MH crisis who need some human contact. I understand this situation is horrible, I hate it, and I don't blame them for wanting to socialise, but I'm annoyed that it is potentially costing my children more weeks and months off school, costing me more of my career, making me wait longer for a happier life.

What’s incredibly selfish is suggesting that everyone suffer, some people disastrous consequences, instead of sheltering the small minority who would actually get properly ill.

As for mandating mask wearing outdoors, if it comes to that I’ll start practicing civil disobedience. I am never going to wear a mask when not forced to at work/to buy food or fuel. Anyone who expects that can fuck right off.

Honestly can't get over how many dicks are on this thread. The OP wanted a vent and they're basically getting bullied. Cock off you lot!!!

@ElderlyTruthseeker1942

I'm sorry but it's all about sticking to the rules, I cant believe anyone can be so selfish as to see people under lockdown! I firmly believe no one should be allowed out unless vaccinated I'm afraid so if that means months or years of having to stay in to follow the rules so be it. I am approaching 80 and so is my partner, we have been vaccinated so go out yet young people are all wandering around without a care in the world.

We hope to go on holiday this summer yet doubt it will happen due to selfishness of people breaking the rules. If it means an elderly or disabled person can survive what price is even a few years of lockdown to get things under control ? There are many ways to pass the time in lockdown and dont always have to be out!

1. cooking
2. A good book
3. Knitting or sewing
4. walk in the garden
5. medidation

It seems like people always have to be on the go, why not show some respect , obey the rules and allow the vaccinated people to at least have a decent summer till you can go out yourselves. We have to remember we are protecting the NHS as well but some selfish people dont care do they. I was talking yesterday to my wife and why dont we have some kind of system where lets say Monday wednesday Friday over 60s go out and on Tuesdays, Thursdays younger people do so we dont mix till we get the virus under control? I dont know how we would manage it other than fines on a first offence if you arent out on the right day or even custody but we need to be tough with this virus as it kills any age- rant over!

My God, I’ve heard it all now. Truly shocking that there are people with thoughts like you.

If you feel that strongly report the m otherwise you are enabling them.

@ElderlyTruthseeker1942

I'm sorry but it's all about sticking to the rules, I cant believe anyone can be so selfish as to see people under lockdown! I firmly believe no one should be allowed out unless vaccinated I'm afraid so if that means months or years of having to stay in to follow the rules so be it. I am approaching 80 and so is my partner, we have been vaccinated so go out yet young people are all wandering around without a care in the world.

We hope to go on holiday this summer yet doubt it will happen due to selfishness of people breaking the rules. If it means an elderly or disabled person can survive what price is even a few years of lockdown to get things under control ? There are many ways to pass the time in lockdown and dont always have to be out!

1. cooking
2. A good book
3. Knitting or sewing
4. walk in the garden
5. medidation

It seems like people always have to be on the go, why not show some respect , obey the rules and allow the vaccinated people to at least have a decent summer till you can go out yourselves. We have to remember we are protecting the NHS as well but some selfish people dont care do they. I was talking yesterday to my wife and why dont we have some kind of system where lets say Monday wednesday Friday over 60s go out and on Tuesdays, Thursdays younger people do so we dont mix till we get the virus under control? I dont know how we would manage it other than fines on a first offence if you arent out on the right day or even custody but we need to be tough with this virus as it kills any age- rant over!

The world’s gone mad.

@ElderlyTruthseeker1942 I'm assuming you and your partner would still like the under 60s to work to keep everything running on more than 2 days a week? Or are we ok to work ourselves into the ground, but not to have our own lives outside that?

I understand why you’re angry OP.

But for the sake of your MH and blood pressure, you need to find a way of making peace with the fact some people won’t do as you think they should.

Or you could be angry for a very long time.

@ElderlyTruthseeker1942

You have to be joking right. I'm too busy to do a any of the things you mentioned because I'm too busy working as a key worker providing an essential item to keep you alive on a daily basis. Oh, and homeschooling two kids. This nation is screwing over our children.

Everyone needs ‘some human contact’

With regards to mental health, prevention is far easier and better than cure.

@ElderlyTruthseeker1942

This must be a joke?! Right?

@namechangefail2020

Honestly can't get over how many dicks are on this thread. The OP wanted a vent and they're basically getting bullied. Cock off you lot!!!

Yes, reading it through , does feel like a reasonable attempt at venting got hijacked by,shall we say,some "intense" people with "firm" opinions 🙄fir the record op,o agree with you,it is irksome in the extreme. But as this thread shows,some people can't see beyond their own wants, especially when we are so very close to getting this under control,and managed,so we actually can "get on and live with it".

Honestly, I think most/majority people are sticking with this for a few more weeks.

Op, sometimes simply knowing you are a decent person, doing the right thing and looking after yourselves (and ignoring SM and annoying people) is all you can do. You are doing the right thing, protecting yourself and others. Tens of millions of people are choosing to do the same. You can look yourself in the eye, and know you are the kind of person that cares about others.

As for your family and friends that are breaking every restriction going, cut them off. Refuse to engage with them for the rest of the lockdown. Yes they are free to do what they like, but you don't need to politely listen to it. I had a friend like this during the last lockdown, and I just cut her off and stop replying. I blocked her, and choose not to reengage when we could catch up. You don't HAVE to have selfish, annoying morons in your life. You can choose to ignore them completely.

I suspect many will lose respect and friendships. People do quietly judge the selfish actions of others. Turn it off, be happy and content with your choices and don't let them get you down.

Make the decisions based on your values and morals, and don't let others become your compass.

Oh dear Nanbread (it's naan btw)

Its tipped into a whole new level of batshittery when someone gets the spelling of their user name commented on

Most people I know are still trying. Scotland feels much stricter and nurseries are shut and hubs for essential workers kids have hardly any kids in.

We are all trying our best but I would be lying if I denied it’s starting to fray around the edges. Teenage relative very down is seeing some friends. Other male relative is close to a breakdown and saw his sister.

I’m very concerned about one of my kids and have another week left in me before letting her do more. We certainly haven’t had anyone in the house though.

It’s been far too much , for far too long and I think enough is enough now. There is worse than can happen than dying of covid.

People who do that are self entitled morons. I'm sick of people who think they're more special than other people and can ignore the rules to suit themselves.

I don't blame them.
I can think of lots of people I know in my extended social circle- my friends, DS & DDs friends and their families, my mother's friends.

85% of them are breaking the rules.

And I don't blame them.

We are an island nation. This government has handled this crisis badly. Allowing people to stream into airports without check for a year.
What's the point in us following rules when they are so poorly set out?

"There are many ways to pass the time in lockdown and dont always have to be out!

1. cooking
2. A good book
3. Knitting or sewing
4. walk in the garden
5. medidation"

Those are really going to work with an autistic teenager!
It's perfectly possible to be out of the house and not mix. We have managed that since March. If you feel happier in your home full time then by all means do so.

Elderlytruthseeker who are you to.say that young people cant have the right to a life if they dont get vaccinated? Sorry but you come across as extremely selfish with your frankly dystopian view.

And ageist with your selfish young people spreading it. There are rule breakers of all ages

Social contact is a basic human need. Dont minimise what almost a year of lockdowns/social distancing and tiers have done to peoples mental health.

If it means an elderly or disabled person can survive what price is even a few years of lockdown to get things under control

The price of keeping a roof over their family's head and food in their children's mouths?

So basically OP, you are pissed off because everyone else is breaking the rules but you can't because you don't have anyone to break them with you?

Seriously people like you are the worst of this pandemic. Bitching and moaning because you're jealous. You would probably feel a whole lot better if you kept your nose out of other people's business.

Cases are falling, hospital admissions are falling, the vaccine roll out is going brilliantly, what more do you want? I think I heard yesterday that 40% of covid cases are caught in hospital. So what with that, people catching in care homes, in schools (still plenty of kids in) and in workplaces how many do you actually think are catching it from breaking the rules?

As others have said, as long as the public want this then it will continue. Once the mood changes then the government will have to end it. It makes me laugh when people think this about saving lives, it's really not. It's about politics! And about keeping people out of hospital because there aren't enough NHS resources because they've been underfunding it for years. But you carry on directing your blame at people just doing normal, human things. Don't look at or blame the government, they'll like that

On another thread when someone was screeching about 115,00 deaths, I replied with a graph from the PHE that it wasn't the case. Over a 5 month period, every month there was on average 30% of the Covid deaths (where its mentioned on the death certificate) where Covid wasnt an underlying cause of the death.

You were not screeched at, that poster very patiently tried to explain what Dr’s record on a death certificate, which you could find out yourself if you looked at the government guidance.
If anyone’s been screeching, it’s you.

Linearpark

Oh dear Nanbread (it's naan btw)

Hahahaha. Give the fuck over.

Thank goodness for Brit/Irish humour, and a firm grip on the use of puns.

Elderlytruthseeker do if under 60s can't go out on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays the over 60s will be fine providing the essential services. Staffing the NHS, police, prisons, fire brigade, providing care etc. No didnt think so

Hahaha I didn't know all our problems could be solved by knitting!

@Linearpark

If posters who are badmouthing my opinions would like, they may pm me and i'll provide links to my publications in the field of of diagnostic immunology, my PhD thesis and proof of id.

I missed this post when I wrote my previous message and this is the best one of all ! Thank you for this gift of a post @Linearpark it's amused me highly.

"If posters who are badmouthing my opinions would like, they may pm me and I'll provide links to my publications in the field of of diagnostic immunology, my PhD thesis and proof of id"

Said no genuine scientist ever.... You could have possibly been believable until this post (although not really I'm afraid!) but this kinda ruined everything.

Source : wife and friend of many genuine PhD scientists who would all rather run down the street butt naked singing the national anthem sooner than offer their life's work and personal credentials on mumsnet!!!!!!
Utterly hilarious.