Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Covid

Mumsnet doesn't verify the qualifications of users. If you have medical concerns, please consult a healthcare professional.

We cannot cancel life, to preserve every life

999 replies

Slytherin · 11/02/2021 20:20

I actually find myself agreeing with a Tory for once...we’ve given up so much and the goalposts keep moving, yes it’s an unpredictable situation, but it’s also unsustainable long term. The idea that this summer will be possibly worse than last summer makes zero sense, when we have a vaccine roll out that far exceeds any other nation (except Israel) currently.
First it was let’s get the elderly and vulnerable vaccinated, then it was let’s get the over 50s vaccinated, now we’ve got members of SAGE suggesting restrictions have to continue until everyone, including children are vaccinated and beyond, because of the possibility of new variants. Professor John Edmunds said some would have to stay “forever” last night on Peston.

We must at some point live with an element of risk. I’m in no way suggesting we lift lockdown yet, but suggesting that things won’t have much improved by the summer, is, in my opinion encroaching into dangerous territory.

The government were over promising before, now they’re under promising. There’s got to be a middle ground, people’s mental health cannot sustain this level of pessimism and not having a single thing to look forward to. Everything gets dangled like a carrot, then taken away at the last minute. It’s beyond cruel.

Then it’s the mixed messages, Matt Hancock telling us he’s going on a summer holiday to Cornwall and he’s all booked up and Grant Shapps then telling nobody to even consider booking a holiday abroad or domestically this summer.

Yes, I support restrictions to save lives and support the NHS, but I don’t support the way the government are handling this once again. And I don’t support these restrictions indefinitely, especially when the majority of the at risk groups have been vaccinated.

www.channel4.com/news/we-cannot-cancel-life-to-preserve-every-life-tory-mp-sir-charles-walker-on-lockdown?fbclid=IwAR2RnQNKwJoQ4FSBxT9oTbwbFOCTWcIU9wD9WdYkTEA2sVlJ1posWZAfmsU

OP posts:
doireallyneedaname · 11/02/2021 20:56

I suppose because if it spreads amongst children and those who don’t want the vaccine, it can mutate further and leave us with a vaccine that doesn’t work.

Shelovesamystery · 11/02/2021 20:56

@LucilleTheVampireBat

except many younger people who have survived are now ill with long covid

Unfortunate but not even close to being a good enough reason to keep everyone locked up.

Oh god yes this! I'm sick of hearing about long covid. Unfortunately, in life, sometimes people get sick. That is just what happens. The people that think we can just carry on with lockdown for the unforeseeable because of long covid are deluded.
lovelemoncurd · 11/02/2021 20:56

Until it's your own family member!

Alwaysandforeverhere · 11/02/2021 20:57

@lovelemoncurd

Until it's your own family member!
If they are elderly and lived a long life with their freedoms then so be it.
Daisychainsandglitter · 11/02/2021 20:58

I totally agree OP. My poor DD has been unable to leave the house 21 days out of the last 24 due to her bubble bursting then us catching covid.
This is no life for a 6 year old trapped at home for weeks on end for what was no worse than a cold.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 11/02/2021 20:58

@Alwaysandforeverhere completely agree.

LucasLeesEyebrows · 11/02/2021 20:58

@Chosennone

I am starting to sway. I'm confused. Is there something they're not telling us? Is this going to affect kids more than they're letting on?

At first I was willing to comply totally to keep older and vulnerable safe. When groups 1-5 and definitely up to group 9 are vaccinated, why can't we ease up up morenor less completely? The line is fine and the balancing act precarious. But I'm scared I'm missing something.

It’s not that. We already know and heavily backed up by scientists, that the virus has minimal impact on children. I feel at this point that SAGE are trying to make the government aim for a zero Covid strategy, which is utterly ridiculous for such an over populated and internationally reliant country.
siestalady · 11/02/2021 20:58

Agree op. Enough already.

snowydaysandholidays · 11/02/2021 20:59

Agree

CornishYarg · 11/02/2021 20:59

Agreed OP, Charles Walker isn't someone I'd normally align with at all but I do on quite a lot of what he said here.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 11/02/2021 21:00

There's an awful lot more people agreeing with this than there would have been six months ago. Thank god!

Serenschintte · 11/02/2021 21:02

Agreed.

DuchessofHastings1 · 11/02/2021 21:02

100% agree. There has to be a point where we live with the risk.
Even the new variants are more serious (though scientists are working on booster jabs already) we still have to live with the risk.
We cannot live like this forever.
If we want a world without risk, then let's take the alcohol off the shelves. We can save millions of lives and NHS millions a year.
Let's take cars off the roads. No deaths via collisions and drink driving.
Let's ban fast food and fatty foods so no one does of obesity.

We have risks everyday. And people now are willing to take their chance with Covid 19.

I know 1 person ( a friends grandad) who has died of Covid but the rest I know are crippling in depression, made redundant, losing businesses, children's education and development are suffering. Its getting to the point now where people are FUCK COVID

ktp100 · 11/02/2021 21:02

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Alwaysandforeverhere · 11/02/2021 21:02

@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind

There's an awful lot more people agreeing with this than there would have been six months ago. Thank god!
We are starting to/have hit the point where the younger are fed up.

The elders are once again showing their privilege in many things we shall never have. We won’t sacrifice for them forever and people are starting to see it

gottakeeponmovin · 11/02/2021 21:02

Totally agree. If you feel you are vulnerable then you if you want to you can continue to isolate. The rest of us are happy to take our chances. You have more chance of being in a car accident than getting ping covid yet we all drive.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 11/02/2021 21:03

the only thing stopping people from rioting at the moment is furlough

many people are close to the edge

we must open things up as soon as we can, not as late we can

DownstairsMixUp · 11/02/2021 21:03

This reply has been withdrawn

This has been withdrawn by MNHQ at the poster's request.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 11/02/2021 21:04

@ktp100

If we can't as a country go without pubs, Starbucks and holidays for a year or so to save thousands of elderly and vulnerable people then we are a country of cunts.

Which is becoming more and more evident by the day.

Yeah because it's all about missing a Frappuccino isn't it Hmm
DuchessofHastings1 · 11/02/2021 21:05

ktp100 it's not going to the pub and going to primark, its saving peoples livelihoods, education, mental health, the list goes on!

Shelovesamystery · 11/02/2021 21:05

@PracticingPerson

Oh please not this again.

We will be locked down until the indicators are better. We will lift the restrictions slowly, more slowly than last year because we fucked it up last year. Probably still not as slowly as we should. If things go our way the unlocking will be smooth. If things don't go our way we will have to lock down again.

What more do people really think can be said? It isn't a conspiracy, a plot, a story, a plan, a hoax. It is just shit and we (humans as a whole) are not in control of when this ends. We may be able to gain control at some point, but right now, we are not in control.

What makes you think we have the right to be in control of a virus? We need to get on with our lives with the virus as a part of our livrs. We need to stop hiding away from it. The vaccine will help a lot but ultimately we are not more powerful than nature. It's time to accept that now.
StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 11/02/2021 21:06

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

user1487194234 · 11/02/2021 21:06

Enough is enough,we need to start looking at returning to normality
People who want to stay home,then they can

Alwaysandforeverhere · 11/02/2021 21:06

I don’t care about pubs and costa coffees and restaurants in the sense of wanting to visit them although of course they matter for peoples jobs.

I want my children to go to school, to play with friends, to see family. To live their life’s.

Lesserspottedmama · 11/02/2021 21:06

@ktp100 what an idiotic thing to say, as if it’s the pubs and Starbucks everyone is bothered about. You make yourself sound obtuse and privileged.

Swipe left for the next trending thread