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After lockdown...the sh*t will hit the fan

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Desperado40 · 11/02/2021 17:53

My biggest fear is not covid or if life will be ever back to normal. I know this will pass and we will be able to socialise, travel etc. at some point.
What’s keeping me awake at night, literally, is the state of affairs when we are out of the immediate covid crisis. There will be high unemployment, lots of businesses will go bust after support tap is off, mental health and general health crisis (think of the huge backlog of surgeries and treatments postponed!). But most of all, I ma fearingthe day when the government starts clawing billions spent back from us. I feel that our quality of life will be much worse (as a nation) than we realise. There is also brexit to add to it all. Has anyone got any positive views on this to share (and make me feel better?). Need some optimism desperately.

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Waxonwaxoff0 · 11/02/2021 17:55

I personally think we will have a "roaring 20s" scenario. Hopefully the people who are still working will want to get out and spend to help the economy, I will be one of them!

forinborin · 11/02/2021 17:57

Yes - and the NHS queue for "not covid, not cancer" that is currently at all-times long will probably cost many, many more lives and livelihoods.

MarshaBradyo · 11/02/2021 17:57

@Waxonwaxoff0

I personally think we will have a "roaring 20s" scenario. Hopefully the people who are still working will want to get out and spend to help the economy, I will be one of them!

Me too

Wherediditgo · 11/02/2021 17:59

@Waxonwaxoff0

I personally think we will have a "roaring 20s" scenario. Hopefully the people who are still working will want to get out and spend to help the economy, I will be one of them!

And me! I’ll be out spending with the best of them!

FedUpAtHomeTroels · 11/02/2021 18:04

@Waxonwaxoff0

I personally think we will have a "roaring 20s" scenario. Hopefully the people who are still working will want to get out and spend to help the economy, I will be one of them!

Yes we'll be doing that. Eating out, day's out, short breaks in the UK. Plus more. I have friends and family who are waiting too.

amylou8 · 11/02/2021 18:08

The effects of lockdown will claim many more lives than covid over the coming years.

Notonthestairs · 11/02/2021 18:12

@Waxonwaxoff0

I personally think we will have a "roaring 20s" scenario. Hopefully the people who are still working will want to get out and spend to help the economy, I will be one of them!

I think this too. Am just hoping the local, small businesses can hang on because when the doors open I'm going to be there. We are making lists of things/places that we want to visit/use. They are all local but just so local and therefore taken for granted that we postponed them over and over. I want to see my town centre open again.

SeldomFollowedIt · 11/02/2021 18:16

It will be horrific for people who are already quite poor/ the vulnerable etc. Possibly a roaring 20s scenario for the lockdown winners. I know people who have either saved a fortune, or are struggling massively financially. Unfortunately we fall into the second camp. Can’t see the end to lockdown though at the minute, all feels a bit bleak.

LaurieFairyCake · 11/02/2021 18:22

the effects of lockdown will claim many more lives than Covid over the next few years

I've seen this repeated a lot and I really question it

First of all you can't separate them out - we are locked down BECAUSE of Covid - if we didn't lock down they guesstimate more than 1.5 million dead in the UK

Can you imagine the effects of that number that would continue for years? So suicides because many people become bereaved, businesses shut because their owner dies, mental health issues at all the loss...

Plus we'd then still have to deal with the fact that other countries locked down and WE DIDN'T - can you imagine how our international neighbours would treat us - maybe sanctions? War?

Also - they would have suppressed the virus and we as a country might have produced hundreds of permutations of the virus - can you imagine how they would treat us then ?

Nothing exists in a vacuum - we couldn't have gone our own way and taken no responsibility while every other country did

TryingNotToPanicOverCovid · 11/02/2021 18:25

Im anxious. Our low income looks even lower. Certainly not the mn middleclass life I was hoping wed have. Not sure how we will manage rises in prices.

TableFlowerss · 11/02/2021 18:25

I’m worried about the MH of everyone (especially my own DC)

It feels like a single covid death, just isn’t acceptable and that’s what the aim is, to stop anyone dying of it.

That’s obviously not a realistic goal though, so how long are the goal posts going to be changed to try to prevent a single death.

We know the virus mutates but it’s going to be years and years before it’s properly under control (if it ever is) so what? Everything locked up until then.

Something has to give and I fear there will be riots if this continues for much longer. I mean the way things are going, we can kiss goodbye to a family Christmas this year as well.

GrumpyHoonMain · 11/02/2021 18:25

@Desperado40

My biggest fear is not covid or if life will be ever back to normal. I know this will pass and we will be able to socialise, travel etc. at some point. What’s keeping me awake at night, literally, is the state of affairs when we are out of the immediate covid crisis. There will be high unemployment, lots of businesses will go bust after support tap is off, mental health and general health crisis (think of the huge backlog of surgeries and treatments postponed!). But most of all, I ma fearingthe day when the government starts clawing billions spent back from us. I feel that our quality of life will be much worse (as a nation) than we realise. There is also brexit to add to it all. Has anyone got any positive views on this to share (and make me feel better?). Need some optimism desperately.

The economy will grow immediately after lockdown ends and the bank of england and the treasury have plans in place to maintain that growth. Don’t buy into all the doom and gloom - there are positives. We’re seeing it already locally in that high street rates have had to decrease permanently because businesses able to trade have threatened to leave if they aren’t.

rawalpindithelabrador · 11/02/2021 18:26

And Brexit. This is going to suck.

Rosehip10 · 11/02/2021 18:27

The roaring 20s lead to a massive depression and market collapse in the end. Which lead to the fast rise of extreme ideologies.

GrumpyHoonMain · 11/02/2021 18:27

@TableFlowerss

I’m worried about the MH of everyone (especially my own DC)

It feels like a single covid death, just isn’t acceptable and that’s what the aim is, to stop anyone dying of it.

That’s obviously not a realistic goal though, so how long are the goal posts going to be changed to try to prevent a single death.

We know the virus mutates but it’s going to be years and years before it’s properly under control (if it ever is) so what? Everything locked up until then.

Something has to give and I fear there will be riots if this continues for much longer. I mean the way things are going, we can kiss goodbye to a family Christmas this year as well.

MH is my worry too. In particular with regards to violent offenders - many of them are just getting worse in Lockdown and I’m terrified we’ll see a huge rise in random murders and violence.

Inthevirtualwaitingroom · 11/02/2021 18:28

But what is the alternative.
we will be ok

TableFlowerss · 11/02/2021 18:30

MH is my worry too. In particular with regards to violent offenders - many of them are just getting worse in Lockdown and I’m terrified we’ll see a huge rise in random murders and violence

@GrumpyHoonMain

You’re completely right!

notalwaysalondoner · 11/02/2021 18:30

It's the impact on children that worries me the most and we won't see the effects of that for years in many cases - babies that have never interacted with anyone except their parents for a whole year, preschoolers who haven't played with other children for a year, primary children not learning how to interact plus all the learning disruption, teenagers not having the chance to form crucial social support groups and be independent. Plus the lower level of education our population will have as a whole due to all the disruption and all the knock-on effects of that. It's scary. And I don't even have children.

Daisysflowers · 11/02/2021 18:32

I feel your worry and it also keeps me awake at night. I worry for my child’s future. Their mental health as suffered hugely as has mine.

We should never have been in lockdown this long, the sooner we open up and get things moving again the better for everyone in the long run.

earsup · 11/02/2021 18:33

we are not saving more...retired but at home all the time so energy bills a lot higher plus seem to be eating more....we are not putting as much away each month now.

Defenbaker · 11/02/2021 18:33

I also think that we'll see a roaring 20s type period, which will perk the economy up. Taxes will need to rise, that's inevitable, but hopefully the high earners will bear the brunt of it. We'll probably need Covid booster jabs every year or two, but life will approach normal by the end of this summer.

The NHS will be under a strain for a couple of years, while they try to clear the backlog of operations. I hope that some of the money saved by Brexit can be ploughed into the NHS, and be used to support the UK farming industry, so that we import less food and use our own labour. I think students could work on farms during the summer, and be taken to farms in buses, rather than have large numbers of immigrants moving to the UK each season before returning home, taking their money with them. (I can remember working as a strawberry picker when I was 15... we were all collected by a minibus and taken to the fields a few miles out of town. I think we received a few pence for every punnet we picked. I enjoyed it, but it's hard work, best done by youngsters, with strong backs.)

ragged · 11/02/2021 18:34

MaYBE the "support tap" will continue forever. I'm beginning to think yes.

I feel more concerned at the power grab by govts. How many won't want to let go, in the name of "protecting" us all.

itsgettingwierd · 11/02/2021 18:37

@Waxonwaxoff0

I personally think we will have a "roaring 20s" scenario. Hopefully the people who are still working will want to get out and spend to help the economy, I will be one of them!

Agree.

And it's all spending in the economy.

People wanting to eat out. Join leisure centres due to pandemic pounds, sports competitions starting, staycations etc.

Last summer the coastal towns which can struggle saw huge rise in income (sadly some awful behaviour too) when we were all allowed out. This also meant a boost via public transport and parking charges etc.

I think much more will be spent within the uk than previously. Especially because we will appreciate being able to actually spend money!

Sleepthief · 11/02/2021 18:37

The roaring 20s was all well and good until the Great Depression. Let's not even thi by about what the 1930s brought 😱

Sleepthief · 11/02/2021 18:38

*think about 🤦‍♀️

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