So, what are you going to do?

[LaMarschallin]

To the people who are saying they won't stand this any longer:

What exactly do you plan to do?

March on the streets?

Run out of your house and hug your family?

Not wear masks?

Because you can't go to the cinema, theatre, festivals, shops, libraries, cafes, pubs, send your children to school, see beauticians etc without the government's say so.

I'm just interested to know what the alternative is to trying to keep the infection rate down is.

My sister turned up to see me today and I let her in my house! We had coffee and chatted for about an hour. I know I shouldn’t have, but I have had enough.
After she left, I realised that I felt relaxed and happy for the first time in months.

I'd accept my fate.

Sure you would

How touchingly noble and selfless.

And still people are blaming others for the deaths of their relatives 😱 one of my relatives committed suicide over lockdown, shall I blame those who follow it? Another relative died of Covid in his 30’s but he was a doctor so I’ll blame the people who went out and caught Covid and brought it to his door shall I? No, it’s ridiculous. I still have to go to work amongst a load of children so I’m more likely to get it there than visiting a relative. This is getting like ‘Bad Covid’ and ‘Good Covid’ those who are perceived to have caught it from some evil mixer are sacrosanct, it’s BS.

@Lightningrain

People say they will only comply until x date but in reality it’s all talk and the vast majority will follow the rules.

How many people were on here saying they wouldn’t tolerate another lockdown, or wouldn’t comply after Christmas/once the elderly had been vaccinated etc. I bet very few of them have actually shown blatant disregard for the rules.

We’re all in this together unfortunately and there’s very little any of us can do to change things. Yes, you could go and hug your family but would you really risk it after following the rules for this long? What would be the point of putting you and them at risk just as we’re about to be vaccinated. We’ve done the hard part already.

In my area we’ve been banned from household mixing for near enough the whole year, and every single person I know has been seeing their family as normal in houses for months now, and that was before the vaccines. If you really don’t believe that people have their limits as far as being kept from their families goes, you’ll be disappointed.

I saw something on one of the threads on here which really stuck out to me - it was along the lines of ‘if this was Ebola or affecting children then none of us would need to be told what to do’. It’s so true. If the death rate was 100,000 children, we would all be saying, if we have to stay in for five years so be it. No arguments, no accusations of being ‘lockdown lovers’, no questions asked.

I was watching the news yesterday and there were arrivals from Brazil walking straight through as the hotel quarantine isn’t in place yet. The reporter asked her why did you go to Brazil? Her reply was ‘because nothing is open here in the UK so we went for a holiday’. I also was in M&S doing the food shop on Saturday - full to the brim of old ladies doing their shopping, not distancing and let’s face it not really needing to buy their cakes and flowers.

So seriously what is the actual bloody point if the government have allowed out borders to be completely open for a whole year? Let’s shut schools and deprive our children of their education but just allow people to freely come in and out with their mutant strains they’re so worried about.

I have seen family throughout, I’m not proud of it and I’m not rubbing it in, but I had to for my mental health. I meet friends regularly for walks and that helps keep that side of my life in tact.

Once the vulnerable have been vaccinated, we surely have to say we have tried our best and done all we can. Surely at that point there’s nothing left to do.

Interestingly there is also a report this morning on how the NHS needs reform due to an ageing population and a rise in chronic health conditions. Another reason why our death rate is so high and which no one have a fig about before all this.

I also was in M&S doing the food shop on Saturday - full to the brim of old ladies doing their shopping, not distancing and let’s face it not really needing to buy their cakes and flowers

Maybe they have had their first jab and now feel immune.
My children who had it at the very beginning, works alongside different groups of people who have all had regular tests doesn’t follow the rules as it would be hard to given what she does. But on a couple of occasions the work has stopped as someone has gone down with Covid, then everyone apart from my children then test positive for Covid
I think there is a longer term immunity to this. We had it quite badly as opposed to some who seemed to get off lightly

From April onwards I will see my parents in their home /our home. We are their only family and my kids are their only grandkids. We used to spend every Saturday with them and my mum would cook a roast. We will start to do that again. I'll so try to see my friends outdoors if possible with the warmer weather that will hopefully arrive. They both have babies we've not been able to see.

My inlaws, I really don't know what to do about them. They are both in their 60s and have said they aren't going to have the vaccination. My kids are will both be back at school so there will always be a transmission risk there. What do we do??

As soon as my dad had had his second vaccine, I'm going to cuddle him! Don't know if I'll get the opportunity soon..

You sound really smug op. This is a really goady post we'll done hope you're happy with it👏

Hi all, we can see some of you are having a really hard time of it at the moment so we're just dropping by with a few links to resources that you might find helpful.

Here's our Mental Health resourcespage, and here are some further support links:

Gov.UK: Find out what support you can get if you’re affected by coronavirus
NHS Where to get urgent help for mental health
NHS: Looking after your mental health
MIND: Coping with mental health problems during coronavirus
Young Minds: your child during the coronavirus pandemic

Very best wishes from MNHQ.

I also was in M&S doing the food shop on Saturday - full to the brim of old ladies doing their shopping, not distancing and let’s face it not really needing to buy their cakes and flowers.

I was OK for you to be in M&S though, presumably your shopping was more important

@PinkSparklyPussyCat

I also was in M&S doing the food shop on Saturday - full to the brim of old ladies doing their shopping, not distancing and let’s face it not really needing to buy their cakes and flowers.

I was OK for you to be in M&S though, presumably your shopping was more important

I love posts like this when people say that they've gone to the shop but they don't think anyone else should actually be there. My best one recently was when someone said they'd seen loads of people hanging out on the street when she'd just popped to the local shop to buy some very essential beer.

But hey, @LucilleTheVampireBat your nails are more important

Is that what I said? Bit of an extrapolation. I answered the OP. If you choose to take my comments personally and make them about you, then there isn't much I can do about that.

Do you think you have the monopoly on loss and bereavement because it is related to this particular virus?

I've already posted about losing my Dad and the catastrophic series of failures by the shitty NHS that led to it. He caught a virus before he died, that finished him off. This was before we blamed people for passing on viruses though, so I guess it's different and doesn't count because it isn't covid.

A friend attempted suicide a few weeks ago, because of the lockdown and the decimation of his business and subsequently losing his home. I don't think you will find me posting about it and blaming the vocal lockdown supporters.

Another friend of the family committed suicide in August, after having spent weeks sitting in the dark because he couldn't afford his electric bill having lost his job, as a result of his industry being closed down. Again, I didn't post any attempts at emotional blackmail on here and try to blame people for his death.

In my area we’ve been banned from household mixing for near enough the whole year, and every single person I know has been seeing their family as normal in houses for months now, and that was before the vaccines. If you really don’t believe that people have their limits as far as being kept from their families goes, you’ll be disappointed.
Every single person? Even the people who live a couple of hours journey from family? I really miss my friends and family but have no choice but to not see them, other than one local friend, because I'd have to travel between 1.5 and 5 hours to get to them.

@Penny13720

I saw something on one of the threads on here which really stuck out to me - it was along the lines of ‘if this was Ebola or affecting children then none of us would need to be told what to do’. It’s so true. If the death rate was 100,000 children, we would all be saying, if we have to stay in for five years so be it. No arguments, no accusations of being ‘lockdown lovers’, no questions asked.

I was watching the news yesterday and there were arrivals from Brazil walking straight through as the hotel quarantine isn’t in place yet. The reporter asked her why did you go to Brazil? Her reply was ‘because nothing is open here in the UK so we went for a holiday’. I also was in M&S doing the food shop on Saturday - full to the brim of old ladies doing their shopping, not distancing and let’s face it not really needing to buy their cakes and flowers.

So seriously what is the actual bloody point if the government have allowed out borders to be completely open for a whole year? Let’s shut schools and deprive our children of their education but just allow people to freely come in and out with their mutant strains they’re so worried about.

I have seen family throughout, I’m not proud of it and I’m not rubbing it in, but I had to for my mental health. I meet friends regularly for walks and that helps keep that side of my life in tact.

Once the vulnerable have been vaccinated, we surely have to say we have tried our best and done all we can. Surely at that point there’s nothing left to do.

Interestingly there is also a report this morning on how the NHS needs reform due to an ageing population and a rise in chronic health conditions. Another reason why our death rate is so high and which no one have a fig about before all this.

This comment is hilarious. Three paragraphs on how hypocritical we all are, then ‘by the way, I’ve done what I want the whole time anyway’.

Send my daughter back to school on a keyworker place.

Browse the clothes, books and homewares in supermarkets.

Have a takeaway and drinks and games with family.

It'll be wild!

@LaMarschallin

Yes, yes I'm wrong.

Crack on and break all the rules you like.

Let's see where that gets us.

So you were just looking for a chance to be superior?

@RichardMarxisinnocent

In my area we’ve been banned from household mixing for near enough the whole year, and every single person I know has been seeing their family as normal in houses for months now, and that was before the vaccines. If you really don’t believe that people have their limits as far as being kept from their families goes, you’ll be disappointed. Every single person? Even the people who live a couple of hours journey from family? I really miss my friends and family but have no choice but to not see them, other than one local friend, because I'd have to travel between 1.5 and 5 hours to get to them.

Yeah, I’ve been seeing family that live that far away and so have several of my friends.

Ummmm @OpheliasCrayon and @PinkSparklyPussyCat yes it was Ok for me to be in there because I’m 30 with no underlying health conditions. Would also happily do those old ladies shops for them and drop it off to them to minimise their risk.

This is also a problem. People have been scared witless by the government but can’t asses their level of risk.

@LucilleTheVampireBat I’m so sorry about your friends who committed suicide. No one is taking about this. No one is talking about how many people are actually catching this thing in hospital - the NHS is not protecting a lot of people. I know because I had a baby during all this.

@Penny13720 You do realise it's also OK for them to be there if they choose? No one has said they can't leave the house. My Uncle is 85 and has been going to Tesco to do his own shopping, not because I won't do it for him, but because he wants to.

Penny13720

If they have been vaccinated and you haven't, then maybe the risk to you is greater. If you ask them nicely they may get your shopping for you.

Of course they are @PinkSparklyPussyCat but they are more at risk of being hospitalised and dying, those same figures dictating the need for lockdowns, which are leading to people committing suicide and children not being educated. Shall we hold them personally responsible? Or shall we blame others who are getting their nails done?

@trappedsincesundaymorn no the risk to me is definitely not greater... I’ve got more chance of being killed by a car on my way there

@Penny13720 how about we just stop blaming people for everything? Do you blame people if they catch flu?

If I was elderly and in reasonable heath I wouldn't be staying indoors if I didn't have to. Let people make their own risk assessments and don't judge.

@PinkSparklyPussyCat you were the one telling me my shopping is obviously more important when I’m actually pointing out that some people are doing things which raises their risk to this - that’s is totally their choice.

You’re right though. We shouldn’t be blaming people for catching a virus when that is what viruses do.

Another interesting thing I saw - I was in hospital having my glucose test in pregnancy in April (the first peak) and the nurses were all crammed in one tiny room having a tea break. I don’t blame them but again where is the common sense?

Anyway point I’m making OP is people have had enough and will just quietly go and do what they want to do.