Regret having vaccine

[Zem74]

Had my vaccine last week, govt classes me as CEV, consultant however said no need to shield as moderate risk, thought I’d be put in group 6 for vaccine rollout.
Got put in with group 4 and was unsure whether to have it or not, but after persuasion from family I did, now I feel full of regret like I’ve made a terrible mistake
I’ll get shot down on here for saying this, but I’ve since read things on social media and the internet that’s making me really panic about how safe this vaccine is/ whether it’s part of a sinister plan etc and I feel so scared that I’ve voluntarily just got myself jabbed with it without thinking it through enough
I’m a mother to young children and these worries are keeping me awake at night since

@TableFlowerss If you mean no-one can give a 100% cast iron guarantee about anything, and also that most on SM will give an opinion which is not based on any actual knowledge or fact, then yes I do :)

OP - I know there was some overlapping of trials to truncate the timeframe, but the basics are safety and efficacy. I will look at the extended protocol - to 2023? - but I don't expect any surprises to come out of the long-term surveillance, but more information on efficacy and long-term safety. I'll try and take a look today, unless anyone pops in with additional info before then.

I don’t think governments spend upwards of £12billion if they don’t need to (That’s how much the vaccines have cost thus far). Then give them out for free.

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Under the VDPS, it is thought that thousands of unsuccessful claims have been made. The maximum payment per claim is currently £120,000. The 'disability threshold' before payments are granted is 60%. The scheme covers vaccinations for illnesses such as tetanus, measles, tuberculosis, and meningitis C. As of 2005, the British government had paid out £3.5 million to vaccine injury patients since 1997.[36]

Until the advent of COVID-19, disabled vaccine injury patients were allowed to file a claim up to the age of 21.[citation needed] On the 2 December 2020, government agreed under regulation secondary to the 1979 Act the statutory ₤120,000 blanket payout for any person provably damaged by the vaccine, and by the same addition of Covid-19 to the list, government-approved covax manufacturers were exempted from legal pursuit. Individuals who provide the vaccine (and thus are permitted by government to do so) are also protected.[

Did you know Botox is a rat poison ?

It’s an everything poison. It’s BOtulinum TOXin. You know, the one that slowly paralyses you until you can’t breathe and die?

@Zem74

Thank you, to be clear I am not worried about it being a microchip or any of that nonsense. I worry about the fact that trials have been so rushed, some news reports that people who have had it are dying shortly after and that they are still in trial phase until 2023 - so this rollout is still a trial?? Like I said not sure if there’s truth in any of that I just feel scared that in a few years time there may be big side effects that come to light only years after these being administered

Why do you say the trials have been rushed? Do you mean that some parts have been missed out? Which parts exactly, or do you mean that the process has taken a shorter time than some other drug developments.

Suppose I have to walk 10 miles in a straight like, I could walk 10 miles on one day or a mile on each of 10 days. Is there any difference as to where I end up just because I spaced my walk out?

When people say the vaccines have been rushed it just means that there were shorter or no gaps between each step not that they didn't walk miles 3,4 5 and still somehow got to the end.

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]@TableFlowerss If you mean no-one can give a 100% cast iron guarantee about anything, and also that most on SM will give an opinion which is not based on any actual knowledge or fact, then yes I do :)

OP - I know there was some overlapping of trials to truncate the timeframe, but the basics are safety and efficacy. I will look at the extended protocol - to 2023? - but I don't expect any surprises to come out of the long-term surveillance, but more information on efficacy and long-term safety. I'll try and take a look today, unless anyone pops in with additional info before then.[/quote]
That’s exactly what I mean. The average jo hasn’t got a clue and makes their decisions based on what they read online.

Some people have an agenda and are anti vaxers and others are just reading all the negative stuff and making their decisions based on fear.

Either way right now, it’s not appropriate to create scaremongering titles. People should think before they post.

I’m not anti vaccine - I’m on the fence. The polio vaccine in the 50s caused paralysis in a proportion of people. It was a live vaccine , however, so there is a difference. The worry is how it’s been rushed out - which happened with the polio vaccine .
I don’t think people should be shot down on here for having doubts or different views- it is a bleeding democracy ! We can have a debate without being rude and slating people

@Hubblebubble75 A small percentage of people will experience an adverse event to a medication or immunisation, which is not predictable. Should we therefore not medicate or immunise?

Here’s the normal vaccine route - to enhance its safety before being trialled on us
www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation

I will pray that you and your family are safe.

Trials on the efficacy of prayer have found that it's ineffective. Actually, one study found that believers who knew they were being prayed for did worse; the trial had to be discontinued because it would have been unethical to carry on.
So pray if you want, but maybe best not to tell people you're doing it. If you don't believe scientific trials, maybe ponder Matthew 6.

@DoubleTweenQueen of course we should - I’ve had all my immunisations and so have my kids - but not rushed out ones , ones that have gone through the regulated development process ( which can take 10 years plus)

Do people read the side effects label when they take headache tablets or any other medication?

@Hubblebubble75

I’m not anti vaccine - I’m on the fence. The polio vaccine in the 50s caused paralysis in a proportion of people. It was a live vaccine , however, so there is a difference. The worry is how it’s been rushed out - which happened with the polio vaccine . I don’t think people should be shot down on here for having doubts or different views- it is a bleeding democracy ! We can have a debate without being rude and slating people

Equally people can disagree!

The difference right now, is that more people haven’t even had the chance of being given the vaccine yet. Even if they wanted it, there isn’t the option for them.

People will still die because of covid until everyone gets the chance of the vaccine, it’s irresponsible to be spouting out concerns and creating potential panic!!

Just because you think something, doesn’t mean you have the air it on a public forum!

@Mummyoflittledragon

I imagine the reason as to why there is chatter in certain circles is because there are steps, which getting vaccines out have been missed to save as many lives as possible, which makes us mass guinea pigs. This cannot be denied. And getting a vaccine is a choice

Of course it can -snd should be denied, because it isn't true!!

No steps were missed out, stop spouting bullshit as fact.

To have a valid view takes thorough research and evaluation. Most don't do that.

@TableFlowerss and surely you are believing what you are reading online too - or seeing on tv- how do you know that’s any more truthful than anything else online .

I worry about the fact that trials have been so rushed, some news reports that people who have had it are dying shortly after and that they are still in trial phase until 2023

Yes people are dying shortly after.

However it’s nothing to do with the vaccine. It’s being given to a bunch of 80 and 90 year olds. At that age death isn’t entirely unexpected, and the death rate is the same as normal in that population.

@Waxonwaxoff0

You think people on social media have more knowledge on these matters than qualified scientists?

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@Hubblebubble75

I’m not anti vaccine - I’m on the fence. The polio vaccine in the 50s caused paralysis in a proportion of people. It was a live vaccine , however, so there is a difference. The worry is how it’s been rushed out - which happened with the polio vaccine . I don’t think people should be shot down on here for having doubts or different views- it is a bleeding democracy ! We can have a debate without being rude and slating people

We should absolutely shoot people down for spreading misinformation and bullshit. 🤷‍♀️

Ok. Can you explain and break down what exactly you are worried about. Specifically what makes you feel at risk from the vaccine?

What have been your sources of information? Analyse them. Are they trustworthy? Can you find trustworthy sources that contradict your worries?

The vaccine is safe.. there you go you read it on social media does that make you feel better?

@TableFlowerss I and many many I know ( so many people are secretly not wanting the vaccine - I’ve asked so many and they admit it) so it’s good to debate it tbh . I’m open to be convinced . Shaming people with a different opinion and telling them not to post - sorry are we in a dictatorship now? I’d rather open it up to be convinced otherwise . Isn’t that better ? Isn’t it better for the many many people who have the same worries to read and be convinced too?

[quote Hubblebubble75]@TableFlowerss and surely you are believing what you are reading online too - or seeing on tv- how do you know that’s any more truthful than anything else online .[/quote]
I don’t, but what I do know right now is over 100,000 people have died because of covid.

A vaccine will lower that number. We’ve had vaccines for years and we’re all here to tell the tale.

You could argue your point about anything medical. But if we all decided to go herbal and not put anything in to our bodies then many of us would be dead now! Of thanks such as an ear infection or from a simple operation.

People that are CEV vulnerable would likely suffer horrendously anyway and there’s a huge chance they’d die anyway - so surely a vaccine is a better option.....

Rule of thumb never google your symptoms read likes of fb and Twitter on vaccine as outcome is either your dying or dead.

It doesn't take 10 yrs to trial a vaccine before licencing.