Regret having vaccine

[Zem74]

Had my vaccine last week, govt classes me as CEV, consultant however said no need to shield as moderate risk, thought I’d be put in group 6 for vaccine rollout.
Got put in with group 4 and was unsure whether to have it or not, but after persuasion from family I did, now I feel full of regret like I’ve made a terrible mistake
I’ll get shot down on here for saying this, but I’ve since read things on social media and the internet that’s making me really panic about how safe this vaccine is/ whether it’s part of a sinister plan etc and I feel so scared that I’ve voluntarily just got myself jabbed with it without thinking it through enough
I’m a mother to young children and these worries are keeping me awake at night since

Don't assume that just because something is on the internet it must be true.

Absolutely any Tom, Dick or Harry can put anything at all on the internet. Much of it is bullshit.

The vaccine is very safe. You've already had one dose and had no reaction at all. That is positive. Really good. Something like 12 million people in the UK alone have had a dose too and significant adverse reactions have been very few and far between.

Stop using social media as your research platform. Social media is full of fake news and shit. There is no sinister plot and the idea that there would be is nonsense. As others have said, why would governments the world over actually choose to trash their economies? It would make no sense at all.

I am also vulnerable but still waiting for my first dose of vaccine. I'm feeling rather impatient for it, but it should be in spring.

U said ur problem there
but I’ve since read things on social media and the internet that’s making me really panic about how safe this vaccine is/ whether it’s part of a sinister plan etc
Social media is not and never should be the place to find your information , it seems crazy to me that this need to be said

Well on the basis that the vast majority of us will have had it by autumn, if we do all turn into robots or zombies you really wouldn't want to be the only one that wasn't would you!

[quote faerin]I can understand this.

As someone who has mild anxiety I think it is unkind and unhelpful to tell the op to Get A Grip and that she doesn't have the capacity to understand what she's reading (but of course, they do). How patronising.

Thank you, to be clear I am not worried about it being a microchip or any of that nonsense. I worry about the fact that trials have been so rushed, some news reports that people who have had it are dying shortly after and that they are still in trial phase until 2023 - so this rollout is still a trial?? Like I said not sure if there’s truth in any of that
I just feel scared that in a few years time there may be big side effects that come to light only years after these being administered

I do say this kindyly, pleasr watch the social dilemma on Netflix its explains very clearly how looking for ur news on fb and other is dangerous, it wants u to keep on their platform so it uses AI to suggest stuff to u and there is no way it knows if its true or untrue so u are being shown information all the time purly to keep on it and and money in the banks of fb and other social media. Its changing the way society is going and thats more worrying

You are in a privileged position that millions of others would like to be in, you’ve had your first dose of the vaccination.

Don’t listen to the bacofoil brigade their main aim is to destabilise society and covid Has done enough of that for all our lifetimes don’t you think?

Read the science. Most papers are available online either straight from the source or paraphrased in articles by journalists. Why would you believe Bob from Bedford who lives in his mums spare room, has a Heman bedspread, hates women and forrinurs over a highly trained and professional doctor or scientist ?

Also its very natural to have heighten anxiety during a pandemic, i am too suffering but with different things, it will get better we just need to get the vaccines

I think that people who test positive for Covid 19 shortly after having the vaccine, or sadly die, are more likely to have been infected shortly BEFORE they had it and still been asymptomatic on the day. That is because of the lengthy incubation period (2 weeks, isn't it).

That is in many cases, anyway.

some news reports that people who have had it are dying shortly after

Have a read of this:

fullfact.org/online/vaers-covid-vaccine-deaths/

We are still in a trial phase, yes. There may still be some very rare side effects that are yet to be discovered. This is unavoidable as this vaccine has been released so quickly to deal with the pandemic.

@StillGoingToWork

As someone who has mild anxiety I think it is unkind and unhelpful to tell the op to Get A Grip and that she doesn't have the capacity to understand what she's reading (but of course, they do). How patronising.

I'm past caring if it's unkind. I'm so frustrated by this. The anti-vaxx brigade are going to ensure that this nightmare never ends. All because they believe everything they read on Facebook and privilege the opinions of some illiterate "university of life" type over scientists and medical professionals.

[quote DoubleTweenQueen]@TableFlowerss There are doctors and scientists on MN who absolutely can reassure. I worked over 20 yrs as a molecular virologist and in immunotherapeutics - designing vaccines and therapeutic antibodies, finding out how HIV, HCV, and Flu worked from the genetic level - providing information to support diagnostics and drug development. I spent some time in John Bell's group at Oxford - a long time ago now.

The vaccines are as simple and straightforward as possible, for reasons of ease of manufacture and cost Vs effectiveness. All the ingredients are there to either stimulate your body to build an immunologic response against the major external part of the virus particle, to recognise and block the virus as it tries to establish infection, plus a bit to stabilise the formulation. That's it.

Vaccines are a modern miracle that save millions of lives every year. Designing & making safe and successful vaccines is more straightforward today than it ever has been.[/quote]
Well you know what I mean!

There was a huge risk in the rapid development and testing, which was possible because of running different stages concurrently.

The risk was to money which would have been wasted if the vaccine hadn't worked. But if the trials had shown the vaccines to be unsafe or ineffective, they wouldn't be being used now, the money would indeed be down the pan - which is exactly what has happened to some of the attempts in other countries.

My friend keeps saying people are "shooting her down" (she can't tell me who exactly). So now she's "keeping her mouth shut until she's proven right"

@GCAcademic but I’m not anti vaxx am I - I’ve had the vaxx and I’m anxious about problems that could potentially arise from it, as it’s still in trial

The people who are 'unkind' are the antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists, stirring up anxieties and worse, persuading people to not get protection. I've no idea what their motivation is, other than sheer bloody egotism, but it sure as heck isn't 'kindness'. They're cruel and irresponsible.

And I'm sorry you've been the victim of these unkind idiots, OP. But glad that you got the vaccine despite them.

Sorry you're feeling anxious, but there is lots online about how good the vaccine is, maybe you're just reading all the negative stuff?

@lightand

It is very weird how some threads go one way and some go another.

I have just been on another thread where people in the health profession are indeed saying lots of health professionals have refused the jab.

op, I am a Christian. I will pray that you and your family are safe.

No need add to the unfounded fear.

Pay or don't, it makes no difference

@Zem74
Scientists & MHRA have done a fantastic job

The Govt can't organise a piss up in a brewery, let alone a 'sinister plan' & that's without it being an international plan. Do you honestly think all those Govts could agree on the day of the week, let alone a sinister plan?

Come on, stop listening to muppets with a ridiculous agenda!!

I had mine on Saturday (group 6) I got my invitation Saturday morning & booked for the afternoon, I was excited all day - for an injection!!🤨😂 I've felt a bit guilty since when I hear about others in G1-5, who haven't had theirs yet. But I also feel massively relieved! I'm not going to change my behaviour at all, but come the 1st of March I'm going to be far less stressed about getting it & dying alone in hospital.

Can you explain exactly what you think the sinister plan is? & why you think it might be unsafe?

[quote Zem74]@GCAcademic but I’m not anti vaxx am I - I’ve had the vaxx and I’m anxious about problems that could potentially arise from it, as it’s still in trial[/quote]
It's not still in trial though The trials have happened. They've been evaluated and the vaccine approved. Why do you think it's still at trial stage?

It’s very rare someone dies OP, it can and does happen but it’s so very rare and if you were going to die it would’ve already happened. Those people may have had underlying health conditions etc.
They aren’t sure how efficient this vaccine even is, whether we need top ups etc I don’t think it’s going to alter your DNA or cause anything sinister. You can read up about the safety of vaccines online if your that way inclined but make sure it’s a reputable source. There’s nothing sinister contained in the data at all. The last recorded incident of a vaccine causing problems was in 1955, involving the polio vaccine! There’s lots of data there and it should reassure you.

@Zem74 a form of the vaccines has been in development for a long time for the Oxford one that's over 10 years of research and for Pfizer again several years in development. The reason being is that coronavirus as a collective group of viruses isn't new. SARS, Ebola, Mars are all types of coronavirus which have appeared in the last 20 years. The pharmaceutical industry has been working on these for years. They have a good understanding of the way that the virus structures work so the vaccines have then been developed to target that structure. They have a lot of previous research on the type, ingredients etc.
Similar to flu jab which is adapted each year using a base level.

Please don't regret protecting yourself so that you are around to watch your children grow up. I fully understand anxiety but the vaccines are safe.