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Is anyone actually going to follow the rules from spring?

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Cloudsurfing · 08/02/2021 22:01

It will have been a year since being allowed to properly see friends and family. Even in summer last year you still had to social distance so seeing family was difficult, and some areas had tighter restrictions throughout. Everyone I know is going to see family and friends from spring, regardless of what restrictions there are. I am too. The government do know that most people won’t stick to it from then, right?

Is anyone on here actually going to not see family at that point? I know Mumsnet seems to be full of people who are happy to isolate for years if need be, but are you actually going to?

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Cloudsurfing · 09/02/2021 10:44

@ineedaholidaynow

I'm assuming some people's mental health has been impacted after losing relatives to COVID or if you are suffering from long COVID.
I’m sure that is true for some people. There are also others who have been impacted by isolation and loneliness, traumatic events caused by lockdown and having no support. One doesn’t trump the other.
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BellaBella36 · 09/02/2021 10:44

[quote Dontforgetyourbrolly]@BellaBella36 I think you'll find people do care . They care about their families and their children. If people think they should put strangers before their own kids then they are either lying or deluded.[/quote]
Your child's teacher is not a stranger. I agree that children are best back at school. Once teacher have been vaccinated, and children have weekly Covid tests. (Twice weekly would be more appropiate, but lets start small.)

StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 10:47

Macduff I k ow I'm not special. I know many are in the same position.
I can't believe so many think it is no big deal.
I can't believe so many think it doesn't matter.

BellaBella36 · 09/02/2021 10:47

@Dontforgetyourbrolly

And as for adults being disposable, who do you think will be propping up this country in 30 years time? Its not going to be the 75 year olds , sorry to be harsh .
My colleague who died was 52. The people we nurse who have Covid strokes are in their 40s.
PattyPan · 09/02/2021 10:47

I can’t believe people still think it only poses a risk to the elderly or vulnerable. Two examples from people I went to university with, both previously healthy 25 year olds: one dead in April and one suffering from long covid which means she is no longer able to train in her sport - she was meant to be competing in the 2020 Olympics.

ClaudiaWankleman · 09/02/2021 10:49

I haven't seen my sister in 11 months and I hate it. I still wouldn't put her or her family at risk though

If you go to see them, they have taken the risk. You aren't forcing it upon them. Why not allow your sister some agency?

Besides this, the actual risk to her is low.

PracticingPerson · 09/02/2021 10:51

I can't believe so many think it is no big deal.
I can't believe so many think it doesn't matter.

Can you really not understand that some people are helping themselves cope by saying 'its fine, I'm doing lots of lovely yoga'?

Empathy is two way.

I am not enjoying myself, my coping mechanism is primarily sarcasm and moaning.

But I understand people are different.

Basically almost everyone is in a profound crisis situation and had been for a year.

MacDuffsMuff · 09/02/2021 10:52

@StealthPolarBear

Macduff I k ow I'm not special. I know many are in the same position. I can't believe so many think it is no big deal. I can't believe so many think it doesn't matter.
I think it's a big deal and I think it matters.

It's just that the health of my family and friends matters more to me. I'm in the situation at the moment which means I will be more protected against Covid before they are so I have to bide my time.

I do have hope that things will get better and that we'll see a way out of this. I wouldn't say that I'm coping particularly well through all of this to be honest, certainly not since Christmas anyway, but we all have to do what we think is the right thing, whatever that may be for us.

BellaBella36 · 09/02/2021 10:52

[quote Cloudsurfing]@BellaBella36 everyone mental health is important, and everyone’s health is important. People are not more important than others because of their jobs or anything else. It’s perfectly valid that someone’s mental health is bad because of lockdown. Covid isn’t the only thing killing people. Covid isn’t the only thing that matters.[/quote]
It's perfectly valid that nurses' mental health is affected by watching people drown in their own secretions. When they could have stayed at home.

StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 10:53

OK that's a fair point. I'm venting my frustration at being told its OK cos I just ahve to sit on the sofa and learn knitting and oh soon the pubs will open for us to visit in single households.

Mrsmummy90 · 09/02/2021 10:54

I have been seeing my parents and in laws as they help with childcare and I'll continue to do so. DH and I get tested weekly.

The wider family I won't see until we are allowed to.

MacDuffsMuff · 09/02/2021 10:54

@ClaudiaWankleman

I haven't seen my sister in 11 months and I hate it. I still wouldn't put her or her family at risk though

If you go to see them, they have taken the risk. You aren't forcing it upon them. Why not allow your sister some agency?

Besides this, the actual risk to her is low.

The risk to her is not low at all I'm afraid. Given my job and her health issues, it would be absolutely wrong for me to put her in that situation.
StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 10:55

Macduff Flowers
Fwiw I think things will get better.

Itsnotlikethiswithotherpeople · 09/02/2021 10:56

I doubt people will be having raves but I think there will be a gradual acceptance that seeing our vaccinated nearest and dearest has a greater benefit than cost. It seems unlikely the government will try to restrict people as much come start of April because they know the ‘mood’ will have changed partly from vaccinations, partly from the whole “well you had a year to sort this out now” mentality.

MacDuffsMuff · 09/02/2021 10:57

@StealthPolarBear

Macduff Flowers Fwiw I think things will get better.
Can't bloody wait. Flowers
Mrgrinch · 09/02/2021 10:59

@TheMerrickBoy

What do people actually mean when they say 'enough is enough'? Enough for what? We're bored now so we're going to stop bothering?
Well I can't speak for everyone, but for me it means that if this goes on for much longer then there's a chance of me killing myself.

Just because you find it 'boring' doesn't mean everyone is in the same category. Are you even aware of how bad it has got for some people?

BellaBella36 · 09/02/2021 10:59

@midgedude

COVID isn't the only thing that matters but if you want to minimise harm across all issues you need to minimise covid
👍
ClaudiaWankleman · 09/02/2021 11:00

That's very unfortunate Macduff. She should be in line for a vaccination soon though?

Lovemusic33 · 09/02/2021 11:03

Yes and no

I won’t be sticking to them rigidly. Obviously it depends what the rules are but I will be travelling and going on holiday in the uk, I will be seeing friends outdoors, I will social distance when I feel I need too. Obviously won’t be going to any big get togethers but I won’t be stuck at home. I’ve had enough now and if the vaccine doesn’t work then we will just have to learn to live with the virus, I’m not spending 2 years (or more) stuck at home not seeing anyone. I’m a single parent and feel totally alone, I have been unable to meet anyone new, unable to see family and friends and I can’t do this long term.

Caplin · 09/02/2021 11:05

My dad died of covid a couple of weeks ago. I sat with him in his final days in the covid ward. I wore full ppe but still caught covid.

The ward was full, the staff were exhausted, everyone in there looked haunted and petrified, waiting to see if they or anyone in the ward would suddenly go downhill.

I can’t get the fear in my dad’s eyes out of my head.

For everyone banging on about liberty and personal freedom, you are lucky not to have lost someone. I would love to see friend’s and family. If things relax then I will, outdoors in small groups. Otherwise I will stick to the rules for the sake of the poor exhausted doctors and nurses.

noimnotdoingit · 09/02/2021 11:07

Huh?

Some of the comments here baffle me. I don't apologise for calling time next month and putting my kids and my family first. We've done a lot for strangers and "our NHS" who have frankly let us down badly over the last 5 years but that's another story.

I'm not going to carry on putting others before my family, it's utter BS.

TheKeatingFive · 09/02/2021 11:08

I can’t believe people still think it only poses a risk to the elderly or vulnerable.

I don’t think anyone thinks that.

However they can see clearly from the data that the risk to under 50s with no health conditions is very minimal.

It’s not zero, but then nothing is. I’ve know quite a few young people who’ve died, from cancer, RTA, meningitis, uncontrolled diabetes, drowning. People die of all kinds of things at all ages.

Bramblespoint · 09/02/2021 11:08

It's hard for everyone. I don't know about following rules. I guess you've got to assess your own risks?

Pre covid if you'd visited someone, passed on a cold and they'd subsequently developed pneumonia and died there wouldnt be as much 'blame' culture from others and from yourself.

But that doesn't mean I want to take risks unnecessarily. My grandfather is 98, once he's vaccinated I'd love to see him because let's face if he might not live until the end of all restrictions

Beaniecats · 09/02/2021 11:11

@noimnotdoingit

Huh?

Some of the comments here baffle me. I don't apologise for calling time next month and putting my kids and my family first. We've done a lot for strangers and "our NHS" who have frankly let us down badly over the last 5 years but that's another story.

I'm not going to carry on putting others before my family, it's utter BS.

I take a prescription once a month that's my nhs care I self manage as much as I can, pharmacy or rarely a gp appt Private healthcare through work Pay full NI stamp I consider my NHS obligations satisfied
BellaBella36 · 09/02/2021 11:12

@Mrgrinch Suicide is never anything to consider lightly. Please don't waste your time hanging out with ranting angry people on mumsnet, get professional help. If you don't feel able to speak to anyone over the phone you can text SHOUT to 85258. There are people out there who can help you with coping strategies.