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Is anyone actually going to follow the rules from spring?

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Cloudsurfing · 08/02/2021 22:01

It will have been a year since being allowed to properly see friends and family. Even in summer last year you still had to social distance so seeing family was difficult, and some areas had tighter restrictions throughout. Everyone I know is going to see family and friends from spring, regardless of what restrictions there are. I am too. The government do know that most people won’t stick to it from then, right?

Is anyone on here actually going to not see family at that point? I know Mumsnet seems to be full of people who are happy to isolate for years if need be, but are you actually going to?

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Jeremyironseverything · 09/02/2021 10:28

@strawberriesontheNeva

My family are overseas so I can't actually see them. I do think all this is ridiculous now. The whole 'isolation, stay home, protect the nhs' clearly isn't working'
Of course it's working. How much more of a mess would we be in now, if we hadn't locked down? It would be horrendous. If you can't see that, then you aren't very bright.
StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 10:28

MirandaWestsNewBFF good point. Tbh I am mostly sticking to the covid rules too, I am a rule follower and will continue to be. I do think restrictions will be eased in the spring. I'm just confused as to what people think we're trying to achieve here. We have to accept, we have to live with, some risk. We have to live our lives.

LillianGish · 09/02/2021 10:29

Protect the NHS is not just a slogan - that is what's driving everything. The bottom line is that numbers have to remain below a point at which the NHS is overwhelmed. Hopefully once more people are vaccinated there won't be so many people getting so sick, but only time will tell. I live in France and am desperate for the borders to open again so I can get back the UK to see my mum. It's interesting to see the differences between restrictions here and back home. France had a much harder lockdown from the off, but since then the priority has been to try and keep the schools open which they have succeeded in doing. The 6pm curfew is what stops people socialising here (obviously you are free to mix during the day, but have less time to do so!), but with the schools open and most shops life feels reasonably normal. We are going away for half term in a couple of weeks. It is tolerable - no-one wants another lockdown. I've even got used to wearing a mask every time I step outside my front door. There are no quick fixes - it's not really about whether you can or can't be bothered to stick to the regulations, the government cannot allow its health service to be overwhelmed.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 09/02/2021 10:30

Do you really believe that the health of your children's teachers should be put at risk? Would you still be demanding to send your children in if this was loose asbestos we were talking about?

Well said Bella. I think the responses would be different if the virus had the same effects on children as disposable adults.

What about the children who have lost parents who were doctors, nurses and other HCPs or teachers and so-on? What about their mental health?

StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 10:31

And that means I've barely been inside anyone else's home for over a year. I've seen parents and in laws a few times.
Yes I know others see their family less and are perfectly happy but this ISN'T a race to the bottom. If those people had the activities that made them happy taken away, presumably they'd feel the same.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 09/02/2021 10:31

@BellaBella36 I think you'll find people do care . They care about their families and their children. If people think they should put strangers before their own kids then they are either lying or deluded.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 09/02/2021 10:33

And as for adults being disposable, who do you think will be propping up this country in 30 years time? Its not going to be the 75 year olds , sorry to be harsh .

mrsknottschicken · 09/02/2021 10:33

[quote Cloudsurfing]@mrsknottschicken there is no rule that says you must only go out once per day.[/quote]
Isn't there? Oh well - that's good then! Smile

MintyMabel · 09/02/2021 10:35

I don't know how anyone can see the numbers as high as they are and decide they are going to break the rules just because they feel like it.

But I guess we discover what a selfish bunch of twats live in the UK. So much for our alleged community spirit.

Thankfully everyone I know is sticking to the rules.

PattyPan · 09/02/2021 10:35

@Dontforgetyourbrolly There are people that donate a kidney to strangers and you struggle to believe that people would stay at home for the benefit of strangers? I think that just says more about you.

PracticingPerson · 09/02/2021 10:35

@StealthPolarBear

And that means I've barely been inside anyone else's home for over a year. I've seen parents and in laws a few times. Yes I know others see their family less and are perfectly happy but this ISN'T a race to the bottom. If those people had the activities that made them happy taken away, presumably they'd feel the same.
I have had the activities I enjoy taken away!

Those of us who will still follow rules also live our families and friends Hmm

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 09/02/2021 10:35

If anyone thinks the government called this lockdown because they care so deeply for all the vulnerable people, its not the reason ..its only to stop the hospitals being overwhelmed by dying people. As someone else said upthread , the deluded people now are the same ones thinking 6 weeks baking banana bread last March was going to save the world .
People need to get real and decide whether they want to live again

PracticingPerson · 09/02/2021 10:36

Love, not live

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Cloudsurfing · 09/02/2021 10:36

@BellaBella36 everyone mental health is important, and everyone’s health is important. People are not more important than others because of their jobs or anything else. It’s perfectly valid that someone’s mental health is bad because of lockdown. Covid isn’t the only thing killing people. Covid isn’t the only thing that matters.

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StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 10:38

Then presumably you get it?
I've been told it's fine because another poster doesn't see her family from one year to the next and it's fine.
Well it's not fine for me. I refuse to have the impact these measures minimised. Stya at home and do yoga.

MacDuffsMuff · 09/02/2021 10:40

Yes I will.

I've had my first vaccine and my second is booked in for April. I agree we're at a 'hold steady' point at the moment and I don't want to fuck things up for other people who will not get the vaccine for another few months. My DH won't get his for some months so I certainly won't be putting him at risk.

midgedude · 09/02/2021 10:40

COVID isn't the only thing that matters but if you want to minimise harm across all issues you need to minimise covid

ineedaholidaynow · 09/02/2021 10:42

I'm assuming some people's mental health has been impacted after losing relatives to COVID or if you are suffering from long COVID.

Landofthefree · 09/02/2021 10:42

Yes, I’ll be following the rules. I’m at higher risk and I will continue to be very cautious until the pandemic is over. I’ve only left my home for medical reasons during this past year and expect the same for another year.

If I catch Covid the chances are I will survive it but be left with my current health conditions being made much worse. It’s not a risk I’m prepared to take.

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Cloudsurfing · 09/02/2021 10:42

@StealthPolarBear

Then presumably you get it? I've been told it's fine because another poster doesn't see her family from one year to the next and it's fine. Well it's not fine for me. I refuse to have the impact these measures minimised. Stya at home and do yoga.
I know I can’t believe some posters. Just because they don’t have family or friends they want to see means it’s fine for everyone else. It’s not fine for me. I’m not happy with only seeing my parents once since the first lockdown and I will be seeing them soon.
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PracticingPerson · 09/02/2021 10:43

@StealthPolarBear

Then presumably you get it? I've been told it's fine because another poster doesn't see her family from one year to the next and it's fine. Well it's not fine for me. I refuse to have the impact these measures minimised. Stya at home and do yoga.
I get that it is tough, but I still think breaking rules is the wrong response.

Your choices as I see it are:

Break the rules
Follow the rules

That's it.

I am doing a whole load of shit I would never do if I could do what I wanted. Not quite got to yoga yet but have reached exercise video levels of despair.

MacDuffsMuff · 09/02/2021 10:43

@StealthPolarBear

And that means I've barely been inside anyone else's home for over a year. I've seen parents and in laws a few times. Yes I know others see their family less and are perfectly happy but this ISN'T a race to the bottom. If those people had the activities that made them happy taken away, presumably they'd feel the same.
I don't know one person who hasn't had 'activities that make them happy taken away' over the last year.

Your situation is not unusual. I haven't seen my sister in 11 months and I hate it. I still wouldn't put her or her family at risk though.

TravellingSpoon · 09/02/2021 10:43

I want to go and see my Dad and my Nan (who has had both vaccinations), they live 100 miles away. My Dad suffers with very poor MH and I haven't seen him since we had a fleeting visit in August where we stood in the garden and he cried.

I have had my first vaccination and my Dad should get his soon. As soon as he has I am going to see him.

PracticingPerson · 09/02/2021 10:43

Just because they don’t have family or friends they want to see means it’s fine for everyone else.

This is a disgusting thing to say.

DenisetheMenace · 09/02/2021 10:44

We’ll see immediate family in each other’s homes once we’re all fully vaccinated. Won’t be going anywhere else, will continue to wfh and have groceries delivered, etc. Happy to wear masks and distance in public places as long as required. Will probably carry on with mask wearing in ‘flu season going forward too.
It’s easy for us though because we’re not great socialites. Much harder for others or for people living alone.

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