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Is anyone actually going to follow the rules from spring?

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Cloudsurfing · 08/02/2021 22:01

It will have been a year since being allowed to properly see friends and family. Even in summer last year you still had to social distance so seeing family was difficult, and some areas had tighter restrictions throughout. Everyone I know is going to see family and friends from spring, regardless of what restrictions there are. I am too. The government do know that most people won’t stick to it from then, right?

Is anyone on here actually going to not see family at that point? I know Mumsnet seems to be full of people who are happy to isolate for years if need be, but are you actually going to?

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JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 09/02/2021 11:12

I'm single and live on my own and cannot bubble due to practical reasons. It's been bloody hard and I expect will continue to be.
These rules are in place for a reason. All those people deciding they have will have 'had enough' and will break the rules will collectively making the whole thing longer and harder at the expense of those who are obeying them.
This is shit for all of us. Please don't make everyone else have deal with this longer than we need to because you've decided you're the exception.

BellaBella36 · 09/02/2021 11:14

@Caplin

My dad died of covid a couple of weeks ago. I sat with him in his final days in the covid ward. I wore full ppe but still caught covid.

The ward was full, the staff were exhausted, everyone in there looked haunted and petrified, waiting to see if they or anyone in the ward would suddenly go downhill.

I can’t get the fear in my dad’s eyes out of my head.

For everyone banging on about liberty and personal freedom, you are lucky not to have lost someone. I would love to see friend’s and family. If things relax then I will, outdoors in small groups. Otherwise I will stick to the rules for the sake of the poor exhausted doctors and nurses.

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catfeets · 09/02/2021 11:18

Yes I'll be following the rules. We're too busy working our arses off in our jobs to have time to see family anyway.

I'm not that bothered if I can't see my family. I don't understand the need to.
I have a small baby and my family barely saw her when she was born as lockdown hit pretty much straight away. I'm sure everyone will survive not seeing her for a year or so.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 09/02/2021 11:20

Why do people basically imply the goverment are making up new strains or over exaggerating them?
What benefits do the goverment get from lockdown? Absolutely none !!! They want things open asap this is costing a fortune in furlough , lost taxes etc, it is not in their interest to have us remained lockdown without a reason
There will be some relaxations of rules but it will be slow and steady so as to keep an eye on how things are going , likely outside mixing allowed before indoor etc etc and done a slow pace whilst keeping a watchful eye on if cases remain stable etc

Mrgrinch · 09/02/2021 11:22

Thank you @BellaBella36 I appreciate it.
It's just so frustrating to see people saying 'oh get over it it's just boring that's all' when I know there are others like me who are at rock bottom.

I know I shouldn't be reading things like this, but it's like I have to dig for the slightest hope of things getting better. It's a vicious cycle and it's been going on for months- false hope and disappointment.

alfieum · 09/02/2021 11:22

Why the blame for people that catch Covid. It is a virus. I caught it from my child who attended hospital. Someone saying they watched their dad die but then describe other people dying as people who should have 'stayed the fuck at home'. People will catch it, people can not stay at home forever, life needs to happen. It is not a moral failure to catch a virus.

I have lost all empathy now for anyone who supports lock downs, as all I see is the gleeful selfishness of the lock down supporters, unable to see that anything else matters. I used to have sympathy for the fear they had. I deal with the fall out at work each day. I have cried this morning due to the things I am seeing that are due to the effect of lock down. But, those tragedies don't count as you can't catch them.

catfeets · 09/02/2021 11:22

@JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown exactly right. Those breaking the rules are just dragging lockdown out for the rest of us.
I only know 1 person who's caught COVID (in hospital) as everyone I know is following the rules - no one I know is bubbling all over the place or meeting with people for walks etc.
I don't understand why people can't just follow the bloody rules.

WowIlikereallyhateyou · 09/02/2021 11:23

@Caplin

My dad died of covid a couple of weeks ago. I sat with him in his final days in the covid ward. I wore full ppe but still caught covid.

The ward was full, the staff were exhausted, everyone in there looked haunted and petrified, waiting to see if they or anyone in the ward would suddenly go downhill.

I can’t get the fear in my dad’s eyes out of my head.

For everyone banging on about liberty and personal freedom, you are lucky not to have lost someone. I would love to see friend’s and family. If things relax then I will, outdoors in small groups. Otherwise I will stick to the rules for the sake of the poor exhausted doctors and nurses.

Bless you, so sorry for your loss. And so sick of the selfishness of others.
itwaseverthus · 09/02/2021 11:25

I'm curious as to the effect all this shielding is having on our immune systems.

My gran is 99 next week, she's never stayed in and she refuses a vaccine. She laughed uproariously at our suggestions of seeing her through a window and said "Who the fuck wants to live forever? Get yer arse in here and make me a cuppa".

I know of one death to covid, a nurse aged 52. Very shocking and sad. Equally, I lost my best friend to flu, aged 44 years ago. Young people die of respiratory viruses all the time. The lockdown is not for our vulnerable's benefit, as if the Gov give a shit? It's to protect the sainted NHS which continues to tell people to stay home and take paracetamol rather than early intervention other countries have been pro-active about. No wonder the death rate is so bad.

Megan2018 · 09/02/2021 11:26

I'll continue to follow the rules, as will everyone I know. Fortunately I don't seem to associate with any over dramatic idiots.

It's a tiny amount of time in a lifetime, I do think people are being ridiculous about it. It's really not that huge a sacrifice for just a couple of years.

JanuaryJonez · 09/02/2021 11:27

I'll be following the rules but I'm in a better position than some and can see both arguments. I've sort of got used to this way of life now and grab my pleasures where I can!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 09/02/2021 11:27

Bless you, so sorry for your loss. And so sick of the selfishness of others

Seconded. Flowers

Nsky · 09/02/2021 11:28

I have seen any family for a year, two of my three a brothers are abroad, I want a plan we ticket to go freely once vaccinated

Nuggetknuckles · 09/02/2021 11:30

Those claiming our liberty and personal freedoms are being removed need to think very clearly.

There are those that live in other countries with no freedoms. We are not locked in our homes with the army patrolling the streets and censored internet access, with state regulated food deliveries. In a genuine dictatorship no one would be in the position to even think about having the option of ignoring rules.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 09/02/2021 11:31

@itwaseverthus what proof do you have of that claim? Other countries healthcare has also been overun or very close to in countries with such high numbers such as ourselves.
Do you have any evidence to back your claim? And you realise the nhs can't treat for other illness if overrun with covid so of course it needs protecting

PracticingPerson · 09/02/2021 11:31

@TheKeatingFive

Again, please don't imply I am naive to the issues affecting the NHS. You know nothing about me, my area of work, my education etc.

I think anyone advocating further lockdown beyond what’s really necessary, isn’t getting the long term impact on the nhs.

Perhaps I need educating more.

You call me naive etc. but have little substance to what you say.

I am advocating locking down only for precisely as long as is necessary, therefore I am not naive Hmm

TheKeatingFive · 09/02/2021 11:32

I consider my NHS obligations satisfied

Exactly. The nhs was direly underfunded before this and was in no way prepared for this (or indeed any kind of emergency situation as far as I can see).

It isn’t the average person on the street’s job to take on the mantle of ensuring it copes. Beyond the initial period of panic and uncertainty last March, which most people were happy to comply with as a temporary measure.

A healthcare system that only works if everyone is locked down at home, unable to see their loved ones, quite clearly isn’t fit for purpose.

YukoandHiro · 09/02/2021 11:32

Yes until me and everyone I interact with is vaccinated - and as I'm under 40 that will be ages

TheKeatingFive · 09/02/2021 11:33

There are those that live in other countries with no freedoms.

And I don’t want to live there. So I don’t.

A government governs by consent. This has been removed by the present government and that is not okay.

itwaseverthus · 09/02/2021 11:34

[quote donewithitalltodayandxmas]@itwaseverthus what proof do you have of that claim? Other countries healthcare has also been overun or very close to in countries with such high numbers such as ourselves.
Do you have any evidence to back your claim? And you realise the nhs can't treat for other illness if overrun with covid so of course it needs protecting [/quote]
What claim?

Pebbles574 · 09/02/2021 11:34

I don't understand the mentality of people who say, "right, once it's been a year I'm not bothering with any of this anymore . . ." you know the virus doesn't keep track of dates, right?

I think things will gradually open up anyway after April/May so any remaining restrictions won't seem so bad (just like last summer was OK for many). It'll only be the people who want to go to jam-packed clubs and festivals who are going to be disappointed.

StealthPolarBear · 09/02/2021 11:36

A tiny amount of time in a lifetime?
This is the sort of comment.
Yes it is for me, and that's why I ahve and will continue to follow the rules.
What about those in their late 80s?
What about babies born who will never get that early time with their grandparents back
What about young people who are losing time when they should be socialising and figuing out who they are in the world?

Pebbles574 · 09/02/2021 11:37

A healthcare system that only works if everyone is locked down at home, unable to see their loved ones, quite clearly isn’t fit for purpose.

Hahahahahahahaha - you have no understanding of health economics!
NO healthcare system can be fully ready for a pandemic as to create that much spare capacity would result in vast empty hospitals for most of the time - something which would be widely criticised for diverting funds away from e.g. social care or education.

cansu · 09/02/2021 11:37

OP I hope then that you are fined. It is very irresponsible and selfish to wholesale announce that you are simply going to stop following the rules. I hope that you don't have children that you expect people to educate whilst you are mixing?

ClaudiaWankleman · 09/02/2021 11:38

you know the virus doesn't keep track of dates, right?
Yes, we do. Thanks for the patronising comment.

These people are referencing how a year of social isolation has stretched them to breaking point. You know empathy is free, right?

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