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Will the mask refuses ever be forgiven, do you think?

146 replies

Rowenasemolina · 02/02/2021 16:22

I don’t think people will forget who they were. I’ve seen a few shunned in school, and on the street, and what really stood out to me, is changing their minds and putting a mask on didn’t actually change the response they were getting from their community. The feeling was too little too late, I think

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Changemaname1 · 03/02/2021 01:43

Oh stop ffs

TheClaws · 03/02/2021 03:07

@wanderings

You wait until criminals start hiding behind masks: I'm surprised this hasn't happened more: perhaps it is, but the government are hushing it up, they don't want the plebs thinking "masks are bad". No wonder Saint Boris and his merry men can't tell who is breaking lockdown and who isn't: they're all hiding their faces.

And yes, @chocolateorangeinhaler, conclusive proof that muzzles (no apologies) are effective is conspicuous by its absence. Didn't Whitty or somebody say early on "they are not effective at containing the virus"... then hey presto, they became the defining symbol of the government's obedience school. They may even be counter-productive, but of course the government will not admit that.

I've got my bingo card ready for the ex-PM Saint Boris writing some rubbish in a couple of years' time that he calls journalism saying "take off the face nappies; CCTV is useless if you wear them; by continuing to wear them, you are making it harder to catch criminals; besides, plastic waste is evil".

It's incredible to me that one person can get so het up about a small proven medical accessory. (And it is proven.) They aren't muzzles. They aren't face nappies. You simply sound asinine when you post drivel like that.
MrsTerryPratchett · 03/02/2021 03:37

How on earth would you know who wasn't wearing one because they thought it was all Tin Hat, or those who genuinely couldn't wear one because they were exempt due to medical conditions?

The one I know has stickers, glass paint on her windows, goes to protests and tells everyone. So we're fairly sure.

She wasn't exactly a pillar of the community before so I'm not sure she'd notice a good shunning. Maybe tarring and feathering but that's not great for the environment.

PandemicAtTheDisco · 03/02/2021 04:10

There are many people that refuse to wear masks because they don't believe masks are having any effect and mask-wearers are unthinking, ignorant sheep; they believe masks are being used to give people a false sense of security and only themselves are the enlightened few. I can't feel much pity for them if/when they get infected - it is the people they will go on to infect that concern me. Selfish, illogical and condescending to others.

Some deny covid-19 is that dangerous for them as they are young, healthy and can beat anything. They are showing off their ignorance and selfishness.

Many anti-maskers have been very open about their beliefs and hostile to those that comply.

MusicalTrifleMonkey · 03/02/2021 04:20

It was repeatedly claimed that masks made no difference in the beginning. Even that total pain in the arse Dr Sarah Jarvis said they made no difference and then changed. It’s not surprising some people don’t believe that masks make a difference.

No one will be vilified long term. Slowly, hopefully, masks will stop being worn by most people as we will no longer need them but some will continue and that will be our new normal.

Mintjulia · 03/02/2021 04:36

I don't give them a second thought now. In two years I will have forgotten they ever existed.

LNSL · 03/02/2021 04:38

Bloody hell OP you sound unhinged. I do what's asked of me but I suspect the masks have a small effect only.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 03/02/2021 06:36

Ah that Devon Life article is heartwarming isn't it. Lovely drippy Totnes being nice and inclusive as usual. Typical TQ9'ers 🤣

MichelleScarn · 03/02/2021 07:15

@LumpyPillow
Grin it's the first time I've seen the use of shunning so diligently, the Schrutes would be proud!

iloveeverykindofcat · 03/02/2021 07:18

Weak bait OP.

BoredBeforelEvenBegan · 03/02/2021 08:13

[quote SatishTheCat]Yes anti maskers are being shunned and called out for their thoughtlessness and self entitled behavior. Rightly so. This furious woman faced pretty much universal condemnation on social media...

www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/mask-exempt-shopper-furious-after-4956646[/quote]
And you're gloating because someone with a hidden disability or health condition faced universal condemnation?

Says more about you, tbh.

SatishTheCat · 03/02/2021 08:45

The shop are not refusing to serve disabled people. This business are offering an enhanced shopping service for non-mask wearers. Many who cannot wear a mask for medical reasons have condemned this woman’s behavior as selfish because the actions of people like her meant they felt unsafe shopping. They have praised the shop for putting their needs and that of their staff and the majority of other customers first.

BoredBeforelEvenBegan · 03/02/2021 10:02

@SatishTheCat

The shop are not refusing to serve disabled people. This business are offering an enhanced shopping service for non-mask wearers. Many who cannot wear a mask for medical reasons have condemned this woman’s behavior as selfish because the actions of people like her meant they felt unsafe shopping. They have praised the shop for putting their needs and that of their staff and the majority of other customers first.
They're not allowed to deny entry to those who cannot wear masks, whatever their claims that they're providing an alternative service for exempt people. This is from the government guidelines.
Will the mask refuses ever be forgiven, do you think?
VettiyaIruken · 03/02/2021 10:16

Of course.
One day it'll just be a school history lesson. A few marks on an exam question about contributing factors.

Melange99 · 03/02/2021 10:55

Will I be shunned for not double masking? That is now a thing. How soon before we start to see more and more people do this? I saw a photo of an actor walking in London with 2 masks on, and thought wtf. But I have now seen a lot of virtual signallers on social media doing it, and vogue tweeting about the best masks to double mask.

A massive industry is being built around this pandemic, and they will be loathe to see it go. I wear a mask when I have to, but as soon as there isn't a need I won't. I don't take a note of who wears a face covering and I find it chilling to talk about shunning people. As soon as this is over I never want to hear, read or see anything about covid ever again.

The fall out from this pandemic is going to be huge. It's like we are in a massive social experiment to see how much we take, how society can be broken, how we can lose our empathy and our sympathy. For ever Captain Tom there are a million dicks in the world.

MammaMiaWallace · 03/02/2021 10:58

I think that normal people will find it harder to forgive the almond brained zealots who have zero critical thinking capacity, incapable of applying logic or nuance and just dimly shouting blanket swivel-eyed sound bites a la “stay the f at home” and “wear a f’ing mask” and disgustingly publicly confronting, humiliating and abusing people who are exempt from wearing masks due to medical or psychological issues.

(I myself am exempt, but do wear a mask in shops/everywhere they’re mandated - I have to wear a silk one and no longer than 5-10mins before I struggle to breathe. I would never judge anyone else if they weren’t able to for ANY reason. As quite frankly I’d happily rip mine off if enough other people did and I didn’t think a zealot would start braying from stage left 😂)

PandemicAtTheDisco · 03/02/2021 11:17

I got mask supports that really help me wear a mask. I was attacked and also am exempt for medical reasons. I trained myself to keep a mask on and increased how long I wear them gradually.

I've offered my mask supports for people to try. No one has taken me up on my offer. I bought loads for resale. Hardly anyone is interested in buying them.

Worldgonecrazy · 03/02/2021 11:28

I will find it very forgive the behaviours of some people during this nightmare. And that doesn’t include people who don’t wear masks because either they can’t or who have reviewed the evidence and believe masks cause more harm than good. It does included petty minded people who take pleasure in frightening other people or who call the police because their neighbours’ son turned up to check they were okay.

BoredBeforelEvenBegan · 03/02/2021 11:29

@PandemicAtTheDisco

I got mask supports that really help me wear a mask. I was attacked and also am exempt for medical reasons. I trained myself to keep a mask on and increased how long I wear them gradually.

I've offered my mask supports for people to try. No one has taken me up on my offer. I bought loads for resale. Hardly anyone is interested in buying them.

Possibly because even with mask supports, some people still can't wear a mask?
SatishTheCat · 03/02/2021 11:34

It’s a government guidance, not a legal one. It would not stand up in law if challenged.

What you are defending is this woman’s right to browse in a shop (potentially endangering herself and others), NOT her right to purchase food from the shop.

The shop has made reasonable adjustments to accommodate those who don’t wear a mask in order to help prevent the transmission of a communicable disease amongst all their customers and staff. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

BoredBeforelEvenBegan · 03/02/2021 11:36

@SatishTheCat

It’s a government guidance, not a legal one. It would not stand up in law if challenged.

What you are defending is this woman’s right to browse in a shop (potentially endangering herself and others), NOT her right to purchase food from the shop.

The shop has made reasonable adjustments to accommodate those who don’t wear a mask in order to help prevent the transmission of a communicable disease amongst all their customers and staff. Why is this so hard for people to grasp?

The reasonable adjustment is the exemption.

Why is this so hard for some people to grasp?

SatishTheCat · 03/02/2021 11:38

No that is not correct, the reasonable adjustment is the personal shopping and free home delivery service open to all who do not wear a mask. Which will include disabled and non-disabled customers.

BoredBeforelEvenBegan · 03/02/2021 11:40

@SatishTheCat

No that is not correct, the reasonable adjustment is the personal shopping and free home delivery service open to all who do not wear a mask. Which will include disabled and non-disabled customers.
No, the reasonable adjustment made in law is allowing those who cannot wear a mask to be exempt.

Nothing to do with those who can but choose not to.

SatishTheCat · 03/02/2021 11:46

Look I’m not going to argue with ignorance.

People who cannot wear a mask support the new arrangements. They see the shop as now being MORE accessible to them because it makes them feel safer to shop there.

Chimboo · 03/02/2021 11:46

Personally I’ll remember the extremely sanctimonious, virtue signalling, selfish bigots that this pandemic has brought out of the woodwork. That doesn’t include people who don’t wear masks as I don’t know their circumstances, but it definitely DOES include people who have such little compassion that they want to “shun” people whose situations they know FA about...