Teachers, would you work?

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Just read an article which was stating that schools may run half days over the summer holidays due to missing so much from school closures.
Teachers, would you back this if you had the option to opt in or out to work over the summer holidays?

Well, it's not sounding like teachers will/want to do this. If therefore, it's not possible to do it at school, summer school could be shown through the Oak Academy on the BBC (sure, it's a compromise). Parents can use it any time that suits and it's better than no catch up option at all.

@BluebellsGreenbells

Love to know if other sectors are being asked to for go their holiday to support the economy?

So all holidays would be canceled?

Anyone want to volunteer ?

Lots of us in other sectors and it went a bit beyond volunteering! Me and a lot of my colleagues had our annual leave cancelled in spring.

I certainly don’t think teachers should be obliged to do this but I don’t see a problem with offering it (appropriately paid, of course) to staff who might be interested.

@lunapeace worry for the kids... hey why don't you become a teacher?

getintoteaching.education.gov.uk/how-to-apply-for-teacher-training

If the only teachers you accept are the ones with a vocation then I'm afraid most schools would only be half staffed, all the ones I've worked in anyway. There are some amazing teachers who are doing it as just a job. And some pretty crap ones who have a "vocation".

Teaching is a skill, and a job. Some people are in it for the warm and fuzzy feelings. Most wouldn't do it if it didn't pay the bills. That's the reality. It doesn't mean we don't care about the kids. It just means that we value ourselves, our families, and our health as well. We are not prepared to martyr ourselves for a job.

DfE staff were offered a bonus of £1000 a week on top of their salary if they volunteered to work over their holidays.

If there is money to throw around like that, I would probably do a week.

I strongest suspect that isn’t what the government has in mind though.

I worry when people suggest that university students or PGCE students would be ideal. I could predict now which of our parents would send their children in and I can also predict what the behaviour of some of them would be like-especially as the kids would know it was their holiday, it would be hot and some really wouldn’t want to be there. They need experienced teachers to teach those classes and they also need good SLT on site to help out with any difficult situations. My SLT are all exhausted, the HT in particular is verging on a breakdown. It is counter-productive to make them do this and someone from the LT would HAVE to be on site.

I suspect if the plan doesn’t make money for any of the government’s friends, it won’t happen, so we can possibly expect tutors on £20 an hour, whilst the tutoring company, (possibly owned by someone like Dido Harding) charges the government £75. Those people will need someone to plan the lesson and implement the behaviour policy. Someone like an experienced teacher. Who won’t want be working through the summer, unless they are paid their actual wage.

It won’t happen.

@Monkeytennis97 I am one thanks and absolutely love my job! I retrained after 10 years in the city.

@lunapeace do one.

That's Miss Mercenary idiot to you, thanks.

It impresses me that you've decided that I don't care about my students because I've pointed out that I'm not obliged to work in my holidays - for which I am not paid - and that TAs, who will be paid considerably less, aren't either.

Why should it be a vocation? That's a convenient way for people to be convinced to accept less whilst giving more.

I've got a job thanks. It come with 13 weeks holiday, so I think I'll stick with it.

No.

Nor would my children be spending their summer in school.

It won’t happen though. The government needs people out and spending. What will places like Alton towers do if the summer holiday is cut from 6 weeks to 2?

Bloody hell @lunapeace you are a teacher. How long have you been teaching for?

No. But not because of money, but because I don't think I would physically last a 12 month academic year. I'd be dead on my feet at the most important exam prep time.

No - at least not all of it. Some time off is needed as well as time to prepare for the next term and new class. My childminder would have to work too - not sure she’d be up for that either tbh as she usually takes that time off with her children. Some teachers might be happy to do so but I think I would be pretty burnt out by Christmas.

@MrsHamlet hear hear!

No. I'm already doing my job.

If there's substantial concerns about children returning then on a systemic level there needs to be proper strategic leadership and real direction from the DfE.

Ideally I would like this lockdown to lead to a serious review of our education system because the current one doesnt work in my opinion.

No, I’ve got my own small children to look after in the holidays.

@MsAwesomeDragon

If the only teachers you accept are the ones with a vocation then I'm afraid most schools would only be half staffed, all the ones I've worked in anyway. There are some amazing teachers who are doing it as just a job. And some pretty crap ones who have a "vocation".

Teaching is a skill, and a job. Some people are in it for the warm and fuzzy feelings. Most wouldn't do it if it didn't pay the bills. That's the reality. It doesn't mean we don't care about the kids. It just means that we value ourselves, our families, and our health as well. We are not prepared to martyr ourselves for a job.

This. Have learnt through bitter experience what martyrdom for the job does.

No I really won't do one! Jeez I even suggested students cover the catch ups in the summer. I'm not asking teachers to do more. I am appalled at the frankness on here of the only benefit being that it pays the bills and comes with 13 weeks holiday. That's it, for some on here that's all you care about. You may as well be prison wardens.

@LolaSmiles total agree

No because I can’t get childcare in summer AND I have a holiday booked in late July. Had these not been issues then yes it would.

@Monkeytennis97

Bloody hell *@lunapeace* you are a teacher. How long have you been teaching for?

10 years in the finance sector in city and 8 years now as a teacher. I know every time which 'job' I'd choose.

Ah..26 years teaching here.

I am appalled at the frankness on here of the only benefit being that it pays the bills and comes with 13 weeks holiday.

Currently that is pretty much the only benefit! I'm pretty up front that the holidays are one of the biggest keepers of me in the profession. I enjoy being in the classroom, I enjoy working with students, but you can't maintain a life on fuzzy warm feels.

@lunapeace

No I really won't do one! Jeez I even suggested students cover the catch ups in the summer. I'm not asking teachers to do more. I am appalled at the frankness on here of the only benefit being that it pays the bills and comes with 13 weeks holiday. That's it, for some on here that's all you care about. You may as well be prison wardens.

Do stop with the faux naivety. It's very unbecoming.

If you're a teacher, you know very well the working conditions for TAs. They're the ones who will be "encouraged" to "do it for the kids".

you can't maintain a life on fuzzy warm feels.
Maybe you can after 10 years in finance in the city.
22 years in the classroom here. I still love it but I'm not a doormat, and I wouldn't do it for free.