Good News Part 8

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Previous thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4144814-Good-news-part-7?watched=1&msgid=104169501#104169501

Useful links:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

www.covidmessenger.com. thanks to LittleOwl for all her hard work!

ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk
NB Please don’t take this too seriously- it depends what vaccine delivery speed and uptake you estimate so it’s not written in stone.

Chris W was just perfect. Such a great role model. I really like him, and people who work with him, confirm he’s fantastic.

@MarshaBradyo

The down trend on the cases is like a black ski run

This is our area SE London. I like seeing the decline

I am in SE London too. Wasn't looking at graphs till now but this is so cheering.

The graphs look great don’t they!

Our county continues to drop but our local area has gone from dark blue back into purple again on the Gov UK map.

locally we have just gone from light blue to dark blue again on the map BUT lots of pockets of green have just sprung up near me. Not seen those for a while.

Such fantastic vaccine news 😊 and thank you once again littleowl for the stats.

I must stop getting drawn into arguments with doom muppets on other threads!

I love Chris Whitty, if he’s not knighted within the next 12 months then someone needs their head checking!

Chris Whitty saying we are over the peak is good.

But on the news, asking why kier stammer says 21,000 people still come into our airports daily. And still no hotels organised for those that should isolate. Disgusting that Boris hasn't organised this yet.

My 77 year old parents just got a call and are being vaccinated tomorrow morning! I'm delighted.

Just dropping in to say thanks littleowl for the updates, covid messenger is so easy to understand compared to a lot of stats sites.

My mom (71) had the Pfizer jab today. She had her heart set on the Oxford one because of all the current good news about it so she's a little disappointed. But surely all the things we know about the Oxford jab could well be true about Pfizer, but we simply don't have enough evidence to conclude it yet right? She's worried about the length of the gap between doses, but if it works with Oxford why wouldn't it work with this one too?

If anyone can throw some Pfizer positive facts out I can try and cheer her up with them. She is obviously grateful for the jab but the press have been very alarmist about the 12 week gap so it's not surprising she has doubts.

Oh and to add to the positivity, it's not vaccine related but I fed the ducks today in the sunshine and welcomed all the geese back to the park. The spring bulbs are up and nature is waking up in full force, a gloriously positive feeling!

Going quite a way back upthread, but isn't the Johnson & Johnson vaccine cheap like AZ?

Can I ask, and sorry if its been mentioned already, but are they doing trials on the Pfizer jab to find out its chances of reducing transmission. Obviously the Oxford news is brilliant and I wondered if we'd hear similar news about Pfizer.

It's about £13 if I remember correctly but unhelpfully I can't remember where or if I have just pulled that figure out of mid-air.

Every time I hear Johnson & Johnson I silently add on "a family company"

@tobee

Every time I hear Johnson & Johnson I silently add on "a family company"

You must hear the adverts from the US. That's actually SC Johnson, no connection to the big pharma company.

www.scjohnson.com/en/our-news/statements-and-policies/sc-johnson-ceo-comments-in-light-of-ruling-against-j-and-j-in-oklahoma

Hurray for 10 million!
11 million by sat..?!

Does anyone know if carers who go into people’s homes are being vaccinated in the top 4 groups? I was assuming they would be (my step mum is one) but she’s not heard anything yet....

Well this sort of answers my own question a bit. Found on the daily stats thread.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/both-covid-vaccines-likely-to-be-more-effective-at-12-week-intervals-say-government-experts/

MHRA says they don't expect the immune process from Pfizer to differ to the Oxford one, so although there's no data to support it they expect the longer gap between first and second dose could improve the immune response in the same way it does for the Oxford one. Sounds good!

Vaccine prices

@tobee

Every time I hear Johnson & Johnson I silently add on "a family company"

I do Johnson and Johnson no tears

Though someone said on last thread
Johnson and Johnson no tiers 😂

So that one is know stuck in my head too

I saw a non-medical bit of cheerful news this morning.

I spotted an ad in the paper for a Caribbean cruise on the Queen Mary 2 over next Christmas (2021) and noticed that one category of cabin was 'waitlisted'. So I went onto their website to see how many cabins were still available. Two. And one suite.

Of course we don't know any details such as whether or not they are reducing capacity (normally 2691), but I find it very encouraging that a substantial number of people are optimistic enough to pay a substantial deposit to book a cruise for next Christmas.

Oops, I got a bit carried away with 'substantial' there!

@Pomegranatespompom

Chris W was just perfect. Such a great role model. I really like him, and people who work with him, confirm he’s fantastic.

I’m not surprised to hear that. The way he dealt with the question about the heckler was superb. He is so articulate and a little bit adorable

@DayBath

Well this sort of answers my own question a bit. Found on the daily stats thread.

www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/both-covid-vaccines-likely-to-be-more-effective-at-12-week-intervals-say-government-experts/

MHRA says they don't expect the immune process from Pfizer to differ to the Oxford one, so although there's no data to support it they expect the longer gap between first and second dose could improve the immune response in the same way it does for the Oxford one. Sounds good!

From memory someone told me on another thread:

There was a small trial of Pfizer at the same time they did their main trials. That went to a 6 week gap. The numbers were not much different than the 3 week. A slight dip but as the protection of the Pfizer is very high that wasn't an issue. There was no hospitalisation or serious illness in this group.

Domesillary carers should have been done with group one. She should talk to her agency. Get them to chase it up. There were definitely groups getting done the same time as the care home staff.