Good News Part 8

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Previous thread here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4144814-Good-news-part-7?watched=1&msgid=104169501#104169501

Useful links:

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

www.covidmessenger.com. thanks to LittleOwl for all her hard work!

ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk
NB Please don’t take this too seriously- it depends what vaccine delivery speed and uptake you estimate so it’s not written in stone.

Hopefully this link works!

My friend shared this with me. It's Groundhog Day. Here are groundhogs sharing a tomato feast at a tiny picnic table:-

Thanks for the clarification @Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

I'm no scientist but DM hasn't got the foggiest so she's easily drawn into these news headlines 🤦🏼‍♀️😩

YAY Madison that's great news! Enjoy your jab. And your slagbog! :)

tobee Groundhog Day looks awesome. Get up when you please to find someone has prepared a huge picnic and you can eat as much as you want. More Groudhog Day here please.

@tobee - love the video 😀

I had the Pfizer vaccine today ( South Wales, over 75). I love this thread and I have stopped watching the news, BBC particularly. I mostly lurk, but I love reading the positivity on this thread.

Ultimately, people (especially journalists) don’t understand the subtle but important different between ‘does not stop transmission’ and ‘there is no evidence that it stops transmission’

Likewise, ‘Pfizer jab won’t work with more than a three week gap’ and ‘no evidence to show Pfizer will work with more than a three week gap’

I’m no scientist but something being ‘true’ in the realm of science is saying ‘it has good data to back this assertion that has been peer reviewed’
And conversely, if it doesn’t, then ‘it hasn’t been proven’
But something not proven is not the same as something being false.

Sorry if I’m rambling

@Mrsorganmorgan

I had the Pfizer vaccine today ( South Wales, over 75). I love this thread and I have stopped watching the news, BBC particularly. I mostly lurk, but I love reading the positivity on this thread.

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Not at all @Wherediditgo thank you that actually makes a lot of sense!

I hate the mind games of the press! Bad at the best of times but downright dangerous in current circumstances IMO

I hate the mind games of the press! Bad at the best of times but downright dangerous in current circumstances IMO

I agree - out there on the cv board there are still people saying ‘vaccine does not reduce transmission’ as though it is fact.

I mean I guess in a way, I get it because people need to still modify their behaviour until we know for certain the impact it will have.

But I think the change in media reporting of late - the shifting towards better news stories etc is ultimately preparing people mentally for coming out of lockdown.

Don't people remember doing science experiments at school? Title of experiment, method of experiment, do the experiment, record the results, etc?

This is what we expect to happen. This is what actually happened.

Definitely agree with that the press act irresponsibly. I know it is a difficult time and people want as much information as possible. However unchecked and fake information is dangerous.

Re the cambridge Pfizer study. Had a little look. It is a lab dish experiment. Only 15 samples and 7 tested positive. No accounting for the fact that we don't just use antibodies to fight viruses. The human immune system is awesome. They need to calculate that into their results. Plus do a much bigger experiment with more samples.

Don't remember school science

I was to busy burning stuff in the bunsen burner

Method. Result. Conclusion.
Wasn't that it?

Yeah as I was writing that I thought "hang on! Do I remember it myself?"

@FuzzyPuffling equipment list and a diagram maybe..?!

Sky news press preview just been very positive about the Oxford jab. Seeing them discussion it like that made me feel quite a lot brighter 😁

Will we hit the 10 million first doses tomorrow..?! 🤞🏻

I reckon we might!

Hello, I've followed you all from the first threads and am right with you all.

I've just felt motivated to add that I know a 100 year old woman, and the last time I rang her to check how she was she said 'We'll get through it' she said 'I've seen wars and all sorts and we got through them and we'll get through this'

She said that.

That’s so lovely @ElDanglio
Think we need to hear lots more wisdom like that!

@CountessFrog even if not then should be very close.... but I’m so hoping we get that milestone headline tomorrow...!

@ElDanglio

Hello, I've followed you all from the first threads and am right with you all.

I've just felt motivated to add that I know a 100 year old woman, and the last time I rang her to check how she was she said 'We'll get through it' she said 'I've seen wars and all sorts and we got through them and we'll get through this'

She said that.

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The 'no evidence of reducing transmission' is a bit like the difference between guilty and not guilty rather than guilty and innocent. Another concept the media struggles with if it makes a story better.

But while it comes as no surprise that it reduces transmission it's great to have it confirmed and to be able to challenge people who claim otherwise.