How can we show our dissent?

[Downtown36]

Feeling so desperate after the announcement today that essentially has us all in this level of lockdown for another 6 weeks weeks at least.

Rates of infection on a steady decline and already so many vaccinated. I wholly disagree with it continuing at the is level. What can I do about it?

Are MN users trying to turn this into Parler?

God. What sarcastic bitchy remarks on this thread.

The OP is clearly some one who is fed up of it all and her last tether, I'm sure she knows theres nothing she can do, it's just that feeling helplessness.

People are out there still spreading a deadly virus around

Eye roll. Jeez a deadly virus that has a 99% survival rate without a vaccine. Thousands and thousands of elderly and weak were dying every year of the deadly virus, Influenza but yet we haven't shut the country down.
Yes we are all doomed as it were. Meanwhile theres been 3,000 less cancer referrals and people with cancer are at home cant get appointments or the care that they need - but you know, Covid is all that matters.

@DuchessofHastings1 - gosh I wonder home much cancer treatment would be carried out if we hadn't been locked down and 'limited' deaths to 100,000. I absolutely want cancer patients in hospital being treated now. The OP started the thread to protest against lockdown. The exact thing required to free up resources for cancer patients.

Eye roll. Jeez a deadly virus that has a 99% survival rate without a vaccine. Thousands and thousands of elderly and weak were dying every year of the deadly virus, Influenza but yet we haven't shut the country down. Yes we are all doomed as it were. Meanwhile theres been 3,000 less cancer referrals and people with cancer are at home cant get appointments or the care that they need - but you know, Covid is all that matters.

Bit tone deaf @DuchessofHastings1 when an NHS worker has just finished a shift and posted about a 35yo dying from the virus. Have you read any of the posts from medics and nurses about the situation that they're facing in hospitals right now?

And yes, of course cancer patients will suffer, as will many other patients with many other conditions, not because covid is the only thing that matters, but because our hospitals are overwhelmed. What do you propose we should do about this? Leave the covid patients to die at home without treatment instead, while everyone else gets back to normal? I'm afraid you'd see quite a sharp increase in the death rate if that's the route you would choose to take.

For what it’s worth OP I agree with you in the fact that we do not need this level of restrictions to continue past feb and nor should we be having to hold back on reopening other areas safely (I’m thinking outdoor recreation and sports, hairdressers/barbers) where we know transmission was low just because it’s not yet safe to open schools. Yes education is important but to people without school age children they mean nothing.

Unfortunately aside from writing to your local MP ( i have a few times and to be fair to her she has gradually shifted her stance from very much towing the line to starting to speak out against lockdowns) there is little else you can do.

One thing is for sure though you will not get a balanced response on mums net, the majority want lockdown indefinitely and can’t see the point in reopening anything that they wouldn’t use. “I don’t go to costa so why should it be open” kind of attitude forgetting that someone’s job is working at costa so puts food on someones table and enables someone to pay their mortgage.

Yes the death toll and hospital situation is bad but it’s not black and white and there are other issues and concerns that in time people will realise we’re just as if not more important than covid and protecting the NHS

Perhaps a couple of the most useful ways you could oppose the level of lockdown could be:

Campaign where it could make a difference for measures to open schools more safely. There is a lot that could be tried that has not, as well as a lack of acknowledgement of some measures that only pay lip service to safer operation but are not achievable due to class sizes, staff numbers, and building types.

Support your food bank, or local groups able to assist from the doorstep people who are isolated and isolating, because of not belonging to the category who may avoid serious health complications. The rest of us may indeed be in a luckier position longer term.

Become a volunteer for a talking or texting phone service that will be receiving many more anxious calls than pre-2020. Crisis, AgeUK, GoodSam - lots of choice.

You can write to your MP. You can try setting up a petition to the Government but it will probably take weeks for them to approve it so I wouldn't personally bother trying that route.

@TorringtonDean yes I understand how a virus spreads 🙄 give over with you PA patronising. My point is that it's a step too far for a virus with a tiny death rate.

I do agree with this though We have forgotten that sometimes there are natural disasters. Yes we do seem to have forgotten that. And we seem incapable of dealing with them with a sensible and balanced approach.

Yes the death toll and hospital situation is bad but it’s not black and white and there are other issues and concerns that in time people will realise we’re just as if not more important than covid and protecting the NHS

People supporting the current restrictions fully understand your point. We know there will be issues, but this is the right course of action, for this point in time. We don't think life will be a jolly holiday when this is over.

Message deleted MNHQ, seriously? Who knew you were so against bird watching.

Ask my friend who died of Covid, maybe?

Just out of interest, what level do you think it should be at and what's your logic behind it?

@MynephewR 100,000 dead not balanced enough for you?

Ask my eldest child.

They’re a doctor on an ITU ward and they spend extra hours every day writing death certificates.

I wish I knew OP.
It is horrifying to me how any questioning of restrictions is shut down with simplistic and short-termist virtue-signalling. There really does have to be a discussion about the costs of this in terms of everything from mental and physical health, through social inequality to loss of basic constitutional rights.
And I am equally horrified, as a left-leaning progressive, to find that the only people questioning the current trope are right-wingers I would usually despise.
In the days of Brexit etc, I was part of the "metropolitan elite", one of those middle-class woke hippies caring about things like social justice and the environment.
Now, if I were to stick my head above the parapet, I would be called a Covid-denier (even though I've had it, as have 90% of my friends), anti-vaxxer (I'm not - DC vaccines all up to date and I am a total hyperchondriac myself), granny-killing (not that I'm aware of) fascist (nope).
I am very concerned about a pandemic response which is going to kill and impoverish far more people than Covid ever will.
I write to my MP; I complain to news outlets when reporting is innaccurate; I try to add my voice to support others being shouted down for daring to stand up for the vulnerable. I don't know what else can be done.

So what do you propose we do instead, thefallthroughtheair?

Good bloody question.

100,000 dead out of a 66+ million population. 0.15%.

Denying children education, thousands of businesses going under - all so we can save catatonic elderly people so they can suffer in their chairs for a few more years because their relatives can't accept the concept of mortality.

I'm so fucking over it. And I'm over reading posts on here from those who will never leave their homes again. Keep your kids at home by all means, stay indoors quivering but shut the fuck up seriously.

@SophieB100

You could start a thread on mumsnet and have a moan about how awful it all is, then just get on with it like the rest of us.

@addicted2spaniels

100,000 dead out of a 66+ million population. 0.15%.

Denying children education, thousands of businesses going under - all so we can save catatonic elderly people so they can suffer in their chairs for a few more years because their relatives can't accept the concept of mortality.

I'm so fucking over it. And I'm over reading posts on here from those who will never leave their homes again. Keep your kids at home by all means, stay indoors quivering but shut the fuck up seriously.

Away and work in an icu and come back and say that.

Missed all this as entertaining 7 yo 24/7. Well it seems like it! Lockdown extended??

What to do ..... apart from slit my wrists?

It’s a fair question

Not much unfortunately- except write to your MP

@Cairnterrorist a big thank you to your eldest child.
Sadly I have a relative claiming that hospitals are paid extra for putting COVID on a Death Certificate so they are being falsified. Obviously ridiculous but I would love some evidence to prove that this is not the case.

[quote Northernsoulgirl45]@Cairnterrorist a big thank you to your eldest child.
Sadly I have a relative claiming that hospitals are paid extra for putting COVID on a Death Certificate so they are being falsified. Obviously ridiculous but I would love some evidence to prove that this is not the case.[/quote]
I can assure you this is nonsense.

Absolutely.