New data reveals jobs with highest death rate from coronavirus

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@Handsnotwands

I’m with harbackwriter. Factory workers, those in processing, manufacturing, warehouses and operations, who, let’s face it we are all totally reliant on don’t fit the popular hero narrative. They just keep turning up to their badly paid, precarious jobs, with no chance of social distancing and often not even any bloody windows to be opened. It is shameful.

This is all true. I keep saying it but think again if you think these profiteering companies are making workplaces covid safe.

@noblegiraffe

Death rates don’t measure exposure though.

No they don't. They tell you how many people have died. Lots of people. It's horrendous.

I hope the data helps inform vaccine priority and acts as a rocket up the arse of those in charge of the high risk occupations. Name and shame them.

It is not clear whether it is the occupation that is the risk, or the income bracket.

@tilder

Yes vaccinations need giving out to workers in factories/takeaways and taxi drivers and all the other low paid jobs that people forget about ....

We really do live in a country that places far higher value on the lives of those we perceive to be educated professionals and it’s sad to think of how we’ve been conditioned to feel sorry for certain groups and not give as much thought to others, who we now know have actually been hit the hardest.

We've all been hit though. I certainly don't blame teachers for being stressed and concerned about their working conditions. I would be if I was a teacher.

It's pretty shit all round.

I can understand why teachers are worried. But does anyone stop and think about the caretakers and cleaning staff that clean up after everyone, or the catering staff that serve everyone lunch.

Every bubble in our school gets dinner from me, I serve every child from a distance of less than 2m. No other way to do it. the teachers only have the children in their class

I don’t think I’ve ever seen posters saying that teachers are dying in our droves. Just that we are at a heightened risk of catching it, because of a lack of ability to socially distance etc when schools are at full capacity.

This is not what this data is about - people crowing about how much they can rub in our faces that - what? Teachers aren’t dying? Oh my god, I’m so upset! That’s a fucking good thing, no one is going to disagree with that.

Instead of trying to somehow rub in our faces that teachers aren’t dying loads, maybe focus on who actually is dying of covid at a high rate.

1 poster consistently talked about her colleagues in school
dying/ being in itu- it seemed so disproportionate.. Anyway glad it’s not the case,

So awful to see the stats. totally agree to targeting these groups for early vaccinations.

@PinkyParrot

That's sad. I can't quite see how chefs are at risk so much.

Could it be the humidity in the kitchens?

Are you accusing that poster of lying, pom?

No- I’m pleased if this data provides some reassurance and balance.

Oh right, when you said ‘glad it’s not the case’, it looked like you meant her colleagues in ITU/dying.

The figures are, I imagine, little comfort to those who have lost people.

No one going to comment on the age 65+ workers being excluded from this analysis? Lots of deaths being ignored. Why?

I don't know if anyone has said or linked to it but the Scottish report is more in depth. Released today. Have a look at it on the statistics and data thread.

Can't believe people are making a these comparisons. It is not a ducking competition. This is as bad as the lock up the vulnerable and elderly threads.

No mention of retail workers who have worked the whole way through consistently? Surely they need to come under a category

The posts were I’m sure, frightening/upsetting for people to read.

So, glad it’s not the case overall.

Unfortunately I’ve seen too much death in my career and it’s very rarely a comfort.

@ChablisandCrisps

Some teachers just can't help themselves can they! Sod tbebus drivers, supermarket workers, porters, cleaners, prison officers etc who are exposed to covid every day too, its all about them isn't it! Christ, MN is becoming intolerable at the moment with the constant need to harp on about teachers!! Many, many of us are working every day in high risk environments with little to no PPE, but you never hear about anyone else complaining.

This !!

Unsurprising figures really but very sad.

One point of comparison that I did note was that professional office workers the rate was significantly lower than the average, whereas for admin staff it was somewhat higher. Lots of lawyers and accountants etc working from home while their administrative staff continue to go into the office and put themselves at risk. I guess it's not that much different from eg the CEO of ubereats being at much less risk than the drivers s/he sends out, but somehow it feels more pointed for people who were previously physically at least side by side.

@EmmanuelleMakro

I’m relieved that there people on here who read stats and can interpret them. I’m a secondary teacher and totally disassociate myself from the militant tendency on here who shame my profession by endlessly bleating on about teachers being hard done by, while continually bragging about their Amazon purchases—hardly ‘essential’ and putting delivery’s drivers and warehouse workers at risk... Zero compassion for low paid supermarket and food distribution/processing. Teachers have secure jobs (unless they are incompetent) and pensions -I’m grateful for that and also having a job I enjoy and where I am also learning every day. And... from the stats (and also my personal experience of knowing no-one seriously ill, let alone dead, much bette outcomes than other demographics.

The teachers I know in real life are all like you @EmmanuelleMakro

They would be appalled, as am I, at the constant self-absorbed whining on MN. Every single bloody thread these days is taken over by it

@0gfhty completely agree

I'm not sure the warehouse workers would thank anyone for stopping buying stuff online and putting them out of a job as well. Some people seem to be suffering from a failure of logic in their sanctimony.

@Butterflykiss00

No mention of retail workers who have worked the whole way through consistently? Surely they need to come under a category

The forgotten key workers

Serving the people who can pop in for their Pinot Grigio and party food whilst wearing their mask under their noses ...

There has been so very little press coverage of cases within retail workers , I think it has been dampened down.
There have been local food outlets with staff cases in multiple figures , completely unreported.

My DH is a chef and I can see why that profession is an issue. I also work in a restaurant and tbh social distancing amongst the staff goes out the window when it's busy. When the shit hits the fan you've got to work as quickly and efficiently as you can or you are going to have problems. And those problems involve either a customer or a manager screaming at you 🤷‍♀️
And don't bother complaining about how it's not "covid safe" if you want to have enough shifts the next week to be able to pay your bills.

It's no surprise that it's the low paid jobs that seem to be more at risk. Zero hours contracts means you don't complain and you don't call in sick. And SSP is one hell of a deterrent to getting a test if you have symptoms. I think that a lot of people who don't work in these industries don't realise the reality.