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Riots against lockdown in Europe

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Downriver · 25/01/2021 09:27

The scenes of young people burning down a COVID testing facility in the Netherlands and burning the Danish PM at a stake in protest against lockdown have really shaken me. Would it happen here? Who is organising this? Fascists? Sometimes I read comments against lockdown on here and I think such a mood is being primed.

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salsamummy · 26/01/2021 20:11

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trulydelicious · 26/01/2021 20:13

@salsamummy

Sorry if I was OTT, but it was worrying

Homegirl1 · 26/01/2021 20:14

Look up 'The Great Reset' being planned by the World Economic Forum. That's not propaganda, its fact.

salsamummy · 26/01/2021 20:15

absolutely yes it was. it is making me feel very anxious especially from people you just wouldn't expect.

DameFanny · 26/01/2021 20:19

Just loving seeing so many people brightly discussing eugenics so the softplays can open again.

You make me sick.

DameFanny · 26/01/2021 20:20

@Homegirl1

Look up 'The Great Reset' being planned by the World Economic Forum. That's not propaganda, its fact.
Nope, not fact, an idea proposed and not so far being acted on.

You're being lied to.

trulydelicious · 26/01/2021 20:21

@Homegirl1

Look up 'The Great Reset' being planned by the World Economic Forum

Who do you think are behind 'The Great Reset'? Who do you think the WEF answers to?

I'd genuinely like to know because I find your posts a bit confusing

trulydelicious · 26/01/2021 20:22

@DameFanny

You make me sick

Yes, it's revolting.

duffeldaisy · 26/01/2021 20:43

"Just loving seeing so many people brightly discussing eugenics so the softplays can open again.

You make me sick."

exactly this. It's really horrifying, all the "most people who've died were old, or had underlying health conditions". Most of us know people who are old but who still are really fit and healthy and probably have another decade in them, enough to see their grandchildren grow up, or marry etc. Or people who have underlying health conditions which are under control with medication and live completely normal lives.
Every death is a huge loss to a family. The eugenics angle is really scary.

FanciedanewnameAnne · 26/01/2021 20:55

@duffeldaisy

"Just loving seeing so many people brightly discussing eugenics so the softplays can open again.

You make me sick."

exactly this. It's really horrifying, all the "most people who've died were old, or had underlying health conditions". Most of us know people who are old but who still are really fit and healthy and probably have another decade in them, enough to see their grandchildren grow up, or marry etc. Or people who have underlying health conditions which are under control with medication and live completely normal lives.
Every death is a huge loss to a family. The eugenics angle is really scary.

I imagine that they don't care because it hasn't hit them yet. If it was their mother that died age 70 or a sister or brother then maybe they might show a little compassion... who knows perhaps just cold and unfeeling if it doesn't affect a family member. I think we all tend to assume that people have the same ability to care for others, to have empathy and understanding that we do.... big mistake - some really don't care at all. Fortunately they are currently not in charge.
Celestine70 · 26/01/2021 20:57

We already have protests against it.

trulydelicious · 26/01/2021 20:59

I think we all tend to assume that people have the same ability to care for others, to have empathy and understanding that we do.... big mistake - some really don't care at all

Wise words @FanciedanewnameAnne

DenisetheMenace · 26/01/2021 21:03

“Most of us know people who are old but who still are really fit and healthy and probably have another decade in them, enough to see their grandchildren grow up, or marry etc.”

This. My mum is 81 and incredible. She survived pretty much every childhood illness that vaccines weren’t available for in her youth. From a working class background, she worked hard and forged a successful career in a male field. She survived a brutal first marriage, took a clean break divorce in the early 70s, no financial support whatsoever. Took on her GLC mortgage alone and worked 12+ hour days to keep my sibling and I in the former family home.

She then met my fabulous stepdad and in retirement, (hers, not his, he’s her toyboy at 8 years younger) she travelled. She won more than one award for her wildlife photography. They fell in love with one particular African country, set up a charity and raised tens of thousands of pounds to better the lives of villagers.

They are both retired now. They are up early every morning feeding the wildlife in their West Country garden. They then set off on their daily 6 mile round walk. When they return, she cleans the house as needed, he dies the garden, then they’re on the internet supporting and encouraging their charities. They have no health issues, they enjoy their home and large, wildlife filled gardens, which they maintain with care themselves. The idea of them needing assistance is frankly laughable.
My mum’s youngest older sister, nearly 16 years her senior, is going strong, has recently moved from the Isle of Wight back to the mainland without assistance and I fully expect my mum to celebrate - at least - her 100th birthday. She’ll probably bake her own cake and retire to bed at least an hour after I do.

Why is her life less valuable than that of 20
year old drug dealer?

trulydelicious · 26/01/2021 21:05

Spot on @DenisetheMenace

ExpatAl · 26/01/2021 21:06

The Dutch are rioting because recently a staggering history of systemic racism was revealed.
The Danish are rioting because new stop and search laws were passed and you can guess who is mostly targeted. The Mohammed cartoons didn’t help either.

QuantumQuality · 26/01/2021 21:24

Those white Dutch men are not rioting because they’re concerned about the child benefits scandal.

GrannyRose15 · 26/01/2021 21:44

[quote PumpkinPiloter]@Odinia Communism? Give me a break! I don't know of a single country that has not imposed similar methods. Are they all communist?[/quote]
Commnunism, fascism, there is no difference really. It is totalitarianism. They hate democracy and want the populace to kow tow to a greater power, ie them.

Victoriacres · 26/01/2021 21:59

So a libertarian government that basically loathes any kind of state intervention and will sell its granny to the highest private bidder is totalitarian ? You are missing the point.

Someonetookmyname · 26/01/2021 22:02

To all of the posters virtue signalling about saving the elderly, let me ask you this:

Would you be prepared to give your life savings, house and job up to protect the NHS?

No? Well this is what some people are being forced to do.

I love my elderly parents too. And don’t want to lose them. But it’s fucking selfish to expect others to sacrifice their entire life savings and children’s future to protect against the very very small risk of their death.

Homegirl1 · 26/01/2021 22:05

Spot on Someonetookmyname.

Someonetookmyname · 26/01/2021 22:07

Why is her life less valuable than that of 20
year old drug dealer

Because she’s lived a long life. She’s had a chance to live. Dying is scary but we all have to go at some point, and if you’ve made it past 80 then you’ve had a good run.

Surely you can see the unfairness of a 20 ye old dying before an 80 year old? How about a baby dying before a 100 year old?

The nhs already uses age as a way to assess treatment.

moominmomma1234 · 26/01/2021 22:10

Just want to add that a testing centre marque was burnt down in Burnley last august. A town that has been under stricter rules since July. If Burnley ends up back in tier 4 for the most of spring then i think there might be more trouble as the weather improves. Burnley has a history of rioting.

Victoriacres · 26/01/2021 22:10

Really ? In my experience they consider a whole range of different variables.

Someonetookmyname · 26/01/2021 22:13

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Someonetookmyname · 26/01/2021 22:14

Really ? In my experience they consider a whole range of different variables

Yes, with age being one of the variables, not the only one.

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