6.3 million people vaccinated already - brilliant!

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This is a continuation of the previous thread, www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4129412-1-5-million-people-vaccinated-already-brilliant

6,353,321 people in the UK have now received their first dose of the vaccine - that’s 1 in every 8.3 adults. It’s a truly remarkable achievement to have reached so many people in such a short space of time.

Welcome to the new thread and let’s keep the positive vibes going!

Love reading the updates on this thread.

I'm starting to hear of people I know having the vaccine...it seems more real

@GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat

I messaged my uncle (he and my aunt are both late 70s) and he said the link is asking for a reference number from the letter which he doesn’t have

It isn’t. It asks for his NHS number, which it says is on the letter.

All he needs to do is select “I don’t know my NHS number” and it will verify him from his name, DOB, postcode and sex. Which hopefully he does know!

@GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat

@GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat

My children think I am mad but I got very excited early when out for some milk. I know milk is not an essential so I should stay home. (Sorry wrong thread)

Anyway I saw 3 police cars escorting two blue armored little lorries. A police car was in front flashing lights getting traffic out the way and the other two were in front and behind the trucks.

I really think it may have been the vaccine on route. Obviously can't be sure but got all excited and now my boring children think I have lost the plot

It must be specific rather than group.
My mum had a text on Saturday and her 1st dose on Sunday.
I mentioned checking online if dad could book.
Same area & GP (they live together!), dad is 75 at the weekend, mum not till later in the year. Dad is diabetic, mum has no conditions.

She checked for dad and not eligible.
I'm sure he will get his letter soon.

@Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum

My children think I am mad but I got very excited early when out for some milk. I know milk is not an essential so I should stay home. (Sorry wrong thread)

Anyway I saw 3 police cars escorting two blue armored little lorries. A police car was in front flashing lights getting traffic out the way and the other two were in front and behind the trucks.

I really think it may have been the vaccine on route. Obviously can't be sure but got all excited and now my boring children think I have lost the plot

Very likely it was. I believe you even if the ungrateful offspring don't!

My mam had it yesterday.
Oxford one apparently.
She was very impressed with the efficiency.

My 91 year old DF is getting his on Friday!

Thank you, I hadn’t actually gone through the questionnaire so didn’t know if it asked for it further on. He’s insisting they have to wait for the letter though ‘like they said in the news’. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat maybe mention to them that if they have been watching the news they will have seen that there are some postal delays so best not to wait for the letter.

Also, sorry if someone has already said that NHS number is usually at the top of prescriptions, so if they have one of those handy they could get it from there.

@WetJan

If the vaccine isn't 100% (which as far as I'm aware none are) then do we have to refer to it as "partially vaccinated" even after the second dose? 🙄

Oh don't worry, later in the year when all adults have been offered both doses we'll still get posters coming along to tell us gravely that it's not 100% effective so we shouldn't be too optimistic

6.3 million people HALF vaccinated.

For all those still debating the scientists dosing recommendations. Here is the paper I posted on the previous thread with clear data as to why this decision has been taken. In short, with Pfizer having more people protected at 89% is better than fewer people protected at 91%. Think of it like choosing between EITHER your mum or dad having 91% protection or ONE of them 89%. What would you choose?

www.cas.mhra.gov.uk/ViewandAcknowledgment/ViewAttachment.aspx?Attachment_id=103741

Published efficacy between dose 1 and 2 of the Pfizer vaccine was 52.4% (95% CI 29.5-68.4%). Based on the timing of cases accrued in the phase 3 study, most the vaccine failures in the period between doses occurred shortly after vaccination, the period before any immune response is expected. Using data for those cases observed between day 15 and 21, efficacy against symptomatic COVID-19 was estimated at 89% (95% CI 52-97%), suggesting that short term protection from dose 1 is very high from day 14 after vaccination. Similar findings were seen with the Moderna mRNA vaccine out to 108 days after the first dose (see Annex A).
The level of protection gained from a single dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine was assessed in an exploratory analysis. Vaccine efficacy from 22 days post dose 1 was 73% (95% CI 48.79-85.76). High protection against hospitalisation was seen from 21 days after dose 1 until two weeks after the second dose, suggesting that a single dose of the AstraZeneca will provide high short-term protection against severe disease. Protective immunity from the first dose likely lasts for a duration of 12 weeks (unpublished data).

With most vaccines an extended interval between the prime and booster doses leads to a better immune response to the booster dose. There is evidence that a longer interval between the first and second doses promotes a stronger immune response with the AstraZeneca vaccine.
There is currently no strong evidence to expect that the immune response from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine would differ substantially from the AstraZeneca and Moderna vaccines.

The second dose is still important to provide longer lasting protection and is expected to be as or more effective when delivered at an interval of 12 weeks from the first dose.

And here is the head of the Oxford vaccine trial quote in The Guardian. Again I choose to believe this than some armchair mumsnet user.

Read below extract.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/08/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-has-70-efficacy-full-trial-data-shows

Prof Sarah Gilbert of Oxford University’s Jenner Institute, who led the research, told the Guardian that people in both dose groups were protected in the trials from severe illness after just one jab.
“I have no qualms about using the high dose/high dose regimen, which is what the majority of people in the trial have had,” she said.
“It’s really important to note that within 21 days of the first vaccination, nobody was admitted to hospital with Covid or had severe Covid and that’s just after one dose – that’s after any one dose in these trials – no admissions to hospital, and that’s a really major result for public health benefits.”

6.3 million people HALF vaccinated

But with the lack of dying and ending up in hospital, it's the good half, isn't it?

So again. Nobody was hospitalised or has severe disease after one dose. So again - would you rather both your parents have one dose or one of them have two and the other completely unprotected. Who would you deprioritise? Interesting to see who is still screaming for a double dose.

If the vaccine isn't 100% (which as far as I'm aware none are) then do we have to refer to it as "partially vaccinated" even after the second dose

No, because they will have had the full course (so are no longer partially vaccinated, which refers to having some but not all of the required shots)

So for example, a 12 year old who has had 2 shots of HPV vaccine is fully vaccinated, because that is the full course, but an 18 year old is partially vaccinated at that number, and fully vaccinated when they have the third shot (the requirement at that age). Both can expect to benefit from the 98% effectiveness when fully vaccinated

@FourTeaFallOut indeed! And quite clearly the data shows they aren’t HALF vaccinated. They are 89% vaccinated. And the second dose adds another 2%. Last time I looked at my percentage homework that didn’t mean a half.

@dworky

6.3 million people HALF vaccinated.

Which side? Left or right? Or is it top half v bottom half? Maybe we need to specify which side they inject to make sure the same side doesn't get done twice #thehorror

Just came on to say thanks for the pp who posted the link for booking. DDad hadn't received a letter yet (75) but we put his NHS number in and he now has both jabs booked.

So grateful. Thanks pp.

So if two doses = fully vaccinated, maybe we should describe people who've had the first shot as 97.8% vaccinated? 🤔

@dworky surely any protection is better than no protection especially when you look at the data
And when you see the projection if when they think a good percentage will have both , thats quite a good timescale all things considered.
My nan is very happy to if had her first dose and will remain isolating as before until 2nd dose , but its a step in the right direction.
I also do know of several who have actually had both

No, I'm perfectly happy to continue with the vaccination count as before and which was perfectly understood for 46 pages.

Fancy telling a group of adults how to speak, the arrogance.

@Chasingsquirrels

It must be specific rather than group. My mum had a text on Saturday and her 1st dose on Sunday. I mentioned checking online if dad could book. Same area & GP (they live together!), dad is 75 at the weekend, mum not till later in the year. Dad is diabetic, mum has no conditions.

She checked for dad and not eligible.
I'm sure he will get his letter soon.

Interestingly my mum had her mobile no. registered with the doctors surgery and my dad didn't (does now!) and she spoke to a couple of people she knew while getting her jab who said they & their spouse were the same (one getting the jab had mobile no. registered / other didn't).

She says her arm aches a bit today and she is washed out, so only went for a 30 minute walk instead of her normal hour +.

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