Are you taking this seriously?

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Are there any people that aren't clinically vulnerable/vulnerale taking the virus seriously?

It seems like there aren't enough people thinking "well I'm not vulnerable but I'm taking it all on board and think the pandemic is horrendous".

It's all quite soul destroying, the whole thing isn't it but I'm hoping that people are rising above the relentless boredom and realising that the restrictions are for a good cause.

I know a few people that think everything has been exagerated and before the stricter mask rules came in the other week, refused to wear one.

I'm vulnerable, but not extremely clinically vulnerable, and was wondering how many on here think it's all a waste of time because they don't think they're at risk?

@Northernsoullover

Meeting family and friends is one thing but all the other of life's pleasantries like dance classes and pantomimes (seen on another thread) and concerts, pubs, restaurants, holidays etc are lifes privileges. Until we can do those safely I won't whinge about lockdown. These added extras to life are out of reach to the poorest members of society permanently, saying you miss those is whiny and entitled.

So you're not allowed to miss something if the poorest people in society don't have it?

Many people in the world live without a roof over their head. Is it 'entitled' to miss that too?

Those not complying- don’t worry you’ll have to eventually

This is either the most sinister or most stupid thing I have read on here recently, and that's saying something.

Or perhaps it's a mute (sic: I nearly was) point by the slightly inappropriately named @Thewiseoneincognito

I don't care if I get it. I'm taking the "rules" seriously in so far as I'm following the letter of the law. However I am meeting with different friend throughout the week, I've been to parks with my kids which weren't the closest park because while it may be guidance it's not law. I've been to the supermarket for non essentials.

The shops and restaurants opened tomorrow I'd be there.

To PP who don't care if they get and die, have you written a living Will?

As otherwise people are potentially going to be working 12 hour shifts in extremely challenging conditions trying to save your life. The least you could do is to save them the bother, if you aren't.

@etopp so you welcome dying alone in a hospital having been on a ventilator for god knows how long? Only to spend your final moments gasping for air as you slowly pass away?

Please have some respect for those who have lost loved ones in this way who would no doubt swap places with you in an instant.

Wow...thanks for all the replies. It means a lot to see that so many are following the rules, even if they're ot vulnerable.

I'm sorry for all the people that have lost loved ones and who are struggling with their mental health. I have suffered recently with my mental health and it helps so much to talk to loved ones, even strangers on here!

I'm not classed as clinically vulnerable but have auto immune conditions and I do feel that if I were to get Covid it could be quite bad - but who knows?! Some people get over it quite quickly and unluckily some don't. I saw on the news earlier about Cambridge University studying the effects of people with inflammation in the body and Covid. It can be the inflammation that kills them after the virus is long gone. It's all about the inflammatory response. This is why I'm really careful, as I already have inflammation in my body.

On the whole, I'm quite positive and feel that I just have to get on with it, but completely understand how all the people struggling feel.

I miss hugs, I miss my friends and family, not seen some for 9 months. I have learned quite a bit about myself and I've been thinking recently that I'd like to start dating when I can. Maybe I feel this way because these options have been taking away from us, or I've taken things for granted and I really do need more hugs and company?!

Thank you to those who are doing things correctly. I still work, I wear PPE religiously, go shopping alone, don't have anyone in the house.

I don't know what I'd do without work or exercise, I feel extremely lucky.

@BonnesVacances

To PP who don't care if they get and die, have you written a living Will?

As otherwise people are potentially going to be working 12 hour shifts in extremely challenging conditions trying to save your life. The least you could do is to save them the bother, if you aren't.

Do you think suicidal people should be left to die, by that logic? Or heavy smokers with lung cancer?

The problem is @Thewiseoneincognito, just about anyone who goes into hospital with any ailment that they are unlikely to survive is experiencing an equally lonely death because only covid matters! For every person who has lost loved ones to covid deaths, there are plenty of people who have lost loved ones to many other ailments and unlike normal times, have not be able to see or be with them either. And this is sometimes to the actual detriment of the care being given to their relative during their stay. For example my elderly DGM was essentially being starved to death because they didn’t expect her to survive a blocked bowel. My DF demanded that she was discharged to end her days at home because he and his sister were not allowed into see her and instead we’re having to hear her crying down the telephone. When they got her home they expected her to last hours but kept her warm and fed her soup. A couple of days of actually being cared for and 4 months later she is still going strong! If she hadn’t been brought home she would have died alone and frightened and my DF and Aunt would never had been able to say goodbye.

No I dont think the reason for this is because of play dates, I said they are not helping.

Those not complying- don’t worry you’ll have to eventually
All the more reason to not comply then surely, before we "have to". What absolute bollocks 🤣

I agree with others here who feel there are worse things than this living death of an existence. I have a lovely home and large garden and my business has not been affected. My ds was home schooled before lockdown so life has not materially changed there.But, I miss my parents, Christmas was pants, couldn't travel to my father in laws funeral and now can't attend a friend's funeral (non covid death) aged 44. I'm fairly resilient and have come through serious illness in the past due to my own research and resources, not the NHS. I now feel heart sick for all the people whose lives have been decimated by lockdown to protect an institution that could burn to the ground for all I care.

I am sad things are like this, I do miss my family who I have not seen properly since March last year, I have missed the birth of my nephew, I have missed the first 6 months of his life.
I wasn't able to see my I'll grandfather, before he passed away and I wasn't able to go to his funeral.
I am a key worker, so my children can have a place at school, but 1parent is at home through the day, so we have chosen for our children to stay at home. I think theres parents sending their children into school that dont need to.
I have teenagers and young children that would like to go out and socialize, but luckily, they are of the same mindset as me and will comply no matter what.
There are so many people saying we have had enough now and will not be complying, it's so sad to see the non compliance of people, it really is.

Thewiseoneincognito
Yes we are in the certainly in the minority and it's so sad to see.

luckily, they are of the same mindset as me and will comply no matter what.

"No matter what"?

So you'll just do as you're told without exercising any critical thought?

@itwaseverthus an insult to every NHS worker. You should be ashamed of yourself. I suggest you remove that video.

Yes, we are taking the “rules” very seriously and so is everyone I know. However, many still question the rules (in their minds) and the strategy the government is taking.

It seems we have locked down too late twice so the lockdown won’t actually prevent that many deaths/hospitalisations so the lockdown cost is disproportionate. The virus has a natural curve it will follow regardless once it has taken hold. It feels like they are going to make the exact same mistake with schools yet again - instead of giving schools funding/plexiglass/ smaller groups/extra TAs etc/preparing for outdoor learning as soon as it is warm, it feels like they will send kids back too late, yet again.

Every person in this country needs to take a look at their health and risk assess and make all the changes they possibly can so extra vitamins/weight/mental health/exercise/extra hygiene at home in case someone catches it etc etc. It is not just about following the rules like they are gospel because quite a few are arbitrary.

[quote itwaseverthus]I can't verify this recording of a phone call from a covid ward but if it's genuine, it's frankly chilling. [/quote]
As your such a fan of you tube - do you remember those horrific videos of people falling down dead in the street?

Yeah that never really happened did it

I am petrified. I don’t want to play the covid lottery, will I be a bit ill or mega ill? I’m 40 morning major wrong with me, but DH is shielding.

I don’t want my PIL or DM to get it. I don’t want my kids to get it, without any idea of the long term impact.

I don’t want to live like this, but I do because I want this to go away/ get more under control.

But it’s ultimately not about me- it’s about those let workers, nurses etc busting their gut day in day out in horrific conditions. So I do it for them.

Don’t come on mumsnet looking for critical thought

No, why on earth should it be removed? Censorship is alive and well in 2021. No one can verify anything anyone writes on here, it's the same thing.

I'm a 'fan' of youtube because I shared one video? I do recall the collapsing chinese people, saw it on twitter. Not seen in in the UK but they've probably collapsed at home as the NHS advice appeared to be stay home with paracetamol.

@Thewiseoneincognito

Worth noting and understanding that the government and scientists are reacting to information they get from analysis of the data. Anyone expecting a definitive promise on policy and action is frankly delusional.

Also worth nothing that if people start not complying with guidance it will only exacerbate the situation and make it go on for much longer. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Remember that.

You're not making any sense. You're trying to hard to sound intellectually superior that you are contradicting yourself.

By your logic we should scrap lockdown and open back up again. The needs of the many (the 99.9% of the population that won't die from covid) outweigh the needs of the few right?

Yes I'm taking it seriously in that I'm not mixing with people indoors, I'm wearing a mask etc. I am however visiting my DM and sitting outside her window, because I believe it's no risk, so in the strictest sense of the word I'm not following the roolz. She's shielding and I'm not prepared to just drop her shopping once a week and not stay and chat just because our twatting government say so. I also drive to walk (allowed except on MN) and I meet several different friends one by one for walks.