Are you taking this seriously?

[nolovelost]

Are there any people that aren't clinically vulnerable/vulnerale taking the virus seriously?

It seems like there aren't enough people thinking "well I'm not vulnerable but I'm taking it all on board and think the pandemic is horrendous".

It's all quite soul destroying, the whole thing isn't it but I'm hoping that people are rising above the relentless boredom and realising that the restrictions are for a good cause.

I know a few people that think everything has been exagerated and before the stricter mask rules came in the other week, refused to wear one.

I'm vulnerable, but not extremely clinically vulnerable, and was wondering how many on here think it's all a waste of time because they don't think they're at risk?

This is not a life worth living any more. I am done with it.

I’m concerned for my elderly relatives, though two have now had it and recovered.
We follow the rules for others.

Good point @Forgetmenot157

There's a reason why controlling parents who try to steer their teenage sons/daughters are usually ended up hated and defied at every turn!!

PerfectPearl

Reasons for non-compliance.

People losing their livelihoods
Mental Health in the toilet
People prepared to take the risk for themselves
People not wanting to live in a police state and can actually think for themselves
It doesn't affect you directly, so there is only so long it will go on for.
No exit strategy so people making more and more decisions for themselves.
People fed up of the poor government handling. We were told at Lockdown 1 it was a temporary measure. You know after they'd tried herd immunity.
Eat out to help out caused a lot of people to be pissed off, followed by it seemed ok to meet anywhere that had a cash machine to take payments, but coffee in the garden. No way.

Officially. I am allowed to send my DD to school. So I am. I'm not not complying, same with the garden centre visit.
The only part that I break the law on is my friends for coffee or my DD in the garden with her friend building snowmen. I'm ok with that.

Between lockdown for almost an entire year now, restrictions, not being able to go to work, not being able to see my family, financial stress from us not being able to open our "non-essential" shop, my mental health destroyed, at this point, I can very honestly tell you that I do not give a flying shit about covid anymore.

Those not complying- don’t worry you’ll have to eventually

🤣🤣 ooh, you're hard.

@PerfectPearl

Yes taking it seriously should involve following every single rule, sick of selfish people who are still having play dates, coffee dates, visiting people, having their children in school when they dont need to, its beyond ridiculous and why we are in such an awful situation.

Yep because going to my siblings house and having a hug after the death of both parents in the space of 7 months (March 31st from the plague and November 4th from cancer), we even had coffee and a glass of wine. Lucky you to have never been in that position where the need to grieve is considered "selfish"

Worth noting and understanding that the government and scientists are reacting to information they get from analysis of the data. Anyone expecting a definitive promise on policy and action is frankly delusional.

Also worth nothing that if people start not complying with guidance it will only exacerbate the situation and make it go on for much longer. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Remember that.

@LucilleTheVampireBat

Those not complying- don’t worry you’ll have to eventually

🤣🤣 ooh, you're hard.

🤣😂 you think it won’t happen.

@StormcloakNord

Good point *@Forgetmenot157*

There's a reason why controlling parents who try to steer their teenage sons/daughters are usually ended up hated and defied at every turn!!

Sometimes it's best to let them figure it out their own... Yes it can be hard in the short term but will be Beneficial in the long run.

For most people to understand a situation, they need to relate to it on a personal level. I'm probably just at fault here as covid has in no way affected me personally... I barely know anyone who had had it and the couple I do know were absolutely fine... Now if I personally knew loads of people seriously ill then I would probably view it differently.

There was a study years ago that over 95% of people that donated to cancer charities had known someone who was effected by said cancer.

They can relate to it porsonally so are More willing to do their bit for the cause.

It works both ways... The people not complying and wanted to get back to normal will be either ones who are suffering with their mental health, people who have lost their jobs and can't pay bills or parents who's children's future is in doubt because of school closures.

What will happen? You'll ponce around the boards spouting more shite and using long words to convince people you're intelligent?

Yes I am taking it seriously. I'm listening to the people working in hospitals who are seeing some of the consequences of catching Covid, on health services and the individuals, both mortality and Long Covid.

I'm not listening to folks on the internet with a superior sense of knowledge whingeing about being told what to do or whether they're fed up of staying at home.

I long ago decided I couldn't help what other people do and that I'm not interested in newspaper stories of people with sad faces saying they didn't realise it was going to be as shit to have it as they thought. If folks want to risk passing on a virus to someone where it's going to potentially leave them with lifelong health issues, that's on their conscience. But because I'm staying at home, at least I know I'm not contributing to it.

@Forgetmenot157 spot on good analogy.

I’ve lost 3 family members to covid and know of plenty who have tested positive and said it was horrendous and also some said it was fine after a few days.

@Thewiseoneincognito

Worth noting and understanding that the government and scientists are reacting to information they get from analysis of the data. Anyone expecting a definitive promise on policy and action is frankly delusional.

Also worth nothing that if people start not complying with guidance it will only exacerbate the situation and make it go on for much longer. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Remember that.

Well that is bollox as the few in this situation are the 1% with a chance of death and maybe the 5-10% that may need hospital treatment.. So actually the other 89-99% are the many here yet it is them who are losing out!

@LucilleTheVampireBat

What will happen? You'll ponce around the boards spouting more shite and using long words to convince people you're intelligent?

What a novel way of spelling DENIAL

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Remember that.

If that's the case, why did people - repeatedly - vote in a govt which favours low taxes for the rich and wants to privatise the NHS they have now suddenly become so concerned about 'protecting'? If "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" shouldn't everyone be obliged to give up on 'non-essentials' (that buzz word) so as to redistribute wealth to 'the many'? Not just now, but all the time?

I'm following the rules, staying home as much as possible, masks, distancing etc etc. Doesn't mean that I'm not utterly, utterly sick of it though.

@IcedPurple

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Remember that.

If that's the case, why did people - repeatedly - vote in a govt which favours low taxes for the rich and wants to privatise the NHS they have now suddenly become so concerned about 'protecting'? If "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" shouldn't everyone be obliged to give up on 'non-essentials' (that buzz word) so as to redistribute wealth to 'the many'? Not just now, but all the time?

Wasn’t the election before Covid? Also I don’t think it’s necessarily the institution of the NHS they’re trying to save, more the capacity and effectiveness of the health service in general and the strength of those working in it. It’s not really about funding? Or at least I don’t think that’s what Tory voters were thinking? 😕

Meeting family and friends is one thing but all the other of life's pleasantries like dance classes and pantomimes (seen on another thread) and concerts, pubs, restaurants, holidays etc are lifes privileges. Until we can do those safely I won't whinge about lockdown. These added extras to life are out of reach to the poorest members of society permanently, saying you miss those is whiny and entitled.

Many people don't take it seriously because they say they can make their own decisions, think they're intellectually superior, only look at a small part of the picture and base their behaviour on that.

It's just like Brexit all over again. People wailing that their opinion based on half facts is just as valid as the full facts. For example, every time I see the statistic of less than 1% chance of dying, I just think "what a dickhead". I can't say how much respect I've lost for people who spout this statistic as being a reason to object to trying to contain this virus.

@DappledOliveGroves

I don't care if I get it. I don't care if I'm seriously ill. Don't care if I die. All I know is that I cannot live in lockdown much longer.

Same here.

I’m early 40’s and had covid last October. I’m not going to apologise for stating that I’ve felt worse after a heavy night on the wine and I’ve suffered no longer lasting effects because I think that I had the experience that most people will get if they catch what is still essentially still classified as a cold virus and have no age related or health conditions to make them more vulnerable.
I am having to go along with the restrictions because there’s not much that I can do about it but I don’t agree that entire countries of healthy and non vulnerable people should be locked down for a virus with such a low mortality rate. I believe that the government should have and should be continuing to build up the healthcare provisions needed for an ageing and increasingly global population but that it is not an individual’s fault if an 87 year old dies of/with covid.
That said, I am doing what I’m sure most citizens would be perfectly capable of doing and avoiding mixing with elderly or vulnerable people to ensure that I am doing my bit to protect these groups.

Wasn’t the election before Covid? Also I don’t think it’s necessarily the institution of the NHS they’re trying to save, more the capacity and effectiveness of the health service in general and the strength of those working in it. It’s not really about funding? Or at least I don’t think that’s what Tory voters were thinking?

You're missing my point.

Most people - and not just in Britain - don't believe that the 'need of the many outweigh the needs of the few'. That's not how people live their lives. Most people put their own needs, and those of their families, way above the needs of 'the many'. I'm willing to bet that you do too.

Now we're being told we have to make what appear to be indefinite sacrifices - to our jobs, our children's education, our mental health. Maybe this is neccessary in an emergency situation, but it's perfectly reasonable to ask how long this is going to go on for and whether the cost is worth it. Just how long can people be asked to sacrifice so much for 'the many'? And what if 'the many' feel the price is no longer worth paying?

@CarolEffingBaskin

Because lockdown is far more likely to kill me than Covid. I welcome a Covid death over life like this.

So do I.