Are you taking this seriously?

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Are there any people that aren't clinically vulnerable/vulnerale taking the virus seriously?

It seems like there aren't enough people thinking "well I'm not vulnerable but I'm taking it all on board and think the pandemic is horrendous".

It's all quite soul destroying, the whole thing isn't it but I'm hoping that people are rising above the relentless boredom and realising that the restrictions are for a good cause.

I know a few people that think everything has been exagerated and before the stricter mask rules came in the other week, refused to wear one.

I'm vulnerable, but not extremely clinically vulnerable, and was wondering how many on here think it's all a waste of time because they don't think they're at risk?

[quote Thewiseoneincognito]@etopp so you welcome dying alone in a hospital having been on a ventilator for god knows how long? Only to spend your final moments gasping for air as you slowly pass away?

Please have some respect for those who have lost loved ones in this way who would no doubt swap places with you in an instant.[/quote]
My mum's death took 2 days from admission to hospital. She was never on a ventilator and asked for her oxygen mask to be removed as she said she would rather die of covid than live with the excruciating pain she had been suffering in the last 3 years of her life. I know this because when the Dr rang me to tell me she had gone he told me about her final hours (I asked him to). My dad on the other hand spent his last week unable to eat, drink or move and was hooked up to a morphine pump 24/7. Believe it or not, watching my dad dying of cancer was more traumatic than knowing how mum died. As for being disrespectful, I don't find the PP the least bit offensive for stating how she is feeling, everybody has a breaking point, I guess you just haven't reached yours yet.

Oh and mum wasn't alone, her hand was held by a HCP and for that, I shall always be grateful.

Yes no matter what

I'm following the rules and taking it seriously as my mum is vulnerable. However two of my children had covid over xmas and now I feel less at risk as a household as we've all been exposed. My job gives me high exposure (nursery) and so does my daughters (hospital covid ward). The fact I didn't catch it when my daughter did suggests I'm right in thinking I've already been exposed through my workplace and had it mildly in March. Therefore, for us, I feel that we would be safe to carry on our normal lives now. I would imagine given how many people must have had it now a large group feels the same and therefore following the rules because they have to rather than need to.

@trappedsincesundaymorn errr you really didn’t grasp my point. @etopp was insinuating she’d rather die of covid than live this life as though a covid death is easier than dealing with lockdowns. The 3 family members I have lost to covid would no doubt disagree.

Thewiseoneincognito I would say she perfectly grasped your point, and responded with a very moving and honest post.

[quote Thewiseoneincognito]**@trappedsincesundaymorn* errr you really didn’t grasp my point. @etopp* was insinuating she’d rather die of covid than live this life as though a covid death is easier than dealing with lockdowns. The 3 family members I have lost to covid would no doubt disagree.[/quote]
For some people lockdown does seem worse than a covid death, it maybe not what you want to hear, but it's the truth.

@MaxNormal

Thewiseoneincognito I would say she perfectly grasped your point, and responded with a very moving and honest post.

Thank you.

I started to have a panic attack yesterday in Boots while sorting out my Citalopram scrip which my doctors have not filled despite it being requested by the pharmacy two weeks ago. I am sick of being told where to stand and which way to walk. I am sick of queues. I can't bear not being able to make any plans. We have money tied up in holidays and events that keep being postponed. A family wedding in Scotland has also been postponed. My recent birthday was a non-event and, sadly, my son's 21st will be the same. His university exams will be online next week and all three of us are working from home, glued to our computers. Local businesses are going under. I've really had enough and can't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I thought things were lifting mid-February, then I heard Good Friday, now people are saying mid July. I hopefully will be getting my first jab mid-April, with the second in mid-September but now they keep saying that we will still have to live like this even after vaccination, so what is the point? I really don't know how much more I can take.

I follow most of the rules as I dont have much choice, freedom of movement has been summarily removed by the government.

I wear masks, I dont think they work. They're pointless virtue signalling & a tool for bullies to utilise.

I honestly dont care if your granny or your mum dies. I just dont, I dont know her, I have no skin in the game there.

I do care that education seems to be up for debate as to whether kids can get the same full education we had or not. How is this a debate?

It's absolutely mental that it's illegal for me to visit my mum!!

And worst of all this whole situation has been a wonderful thing for the woke crowd who love nothing more than tearing people apart for not doing what they consider (and by they I include the gov't) the "right" thing to do.

Once the most vulnerable are vaccinated, there is no reason to keep the rest of us locked down.

[quote Thewiseoneincognito]**@trappedsincesundaymorn* errr you really didn’t grasp my point. @etopp* was insinuating she’d rather die of covid than live this life as though a covid death is easier than dealing with lockdowns. The 3 family members I have lost to covid would no doubt disagree.[/quote]
She didnt insinuate. She was very clear. For many of us the balance has shifted. We'd rather take the tiny risk.

By your logic we should scrap lockdown and open back up again. The needs of the many (the 99.9% of the population that won't die from covid) outweigh the needs of the few right?

Exactly this, and I'm sure Spock from Star Trek who created this phrase, would have agreed.

@MadKittenWoman

I started to have a panic attack yesterday in Boots while sorting out my Citalopram scrip which my doctors have not filled despite it being requested by the pharmacy two weeks ago. I am sick of being told where to stand and which way to walk. I am sick of queues. I can't bear not being able to make any plans. We have money tied up in holidays and events that keep being postponed. A family wedding in Scotland has also been postponed. My recent birthday was a non-event and, sadly, my son's 21st will be the same. His university exams will be online next week and all three of us are working from home, glued to our computers. Local businesses are going under. I've really had enough and can't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I thought things were lifting mid-February, then I heard Good Friday, now people are saying mid July. I hopefully will be getting my first jab mid-April, with the second in mid-September but now they keep saying that we will still have to live like this even after vaccination, so what is the point? I really don't know how much more I can take.

Gently suggesting you speak with your GP they may be able to help you with this. It’s very difficult for everyone, people are losing family and friends to this, they’re losing their businesses their jobs all sorts. It’s a disaster. But we’re all in the same situation in the sense that there’s very little you can do besides accept and cope.

Find some happiness day by day no matter how small it may be. I’ve had 4 holidays postponed so I know what you mean, it feels like I’ll never see the sea. There is no solution except hang on in there.

The wiseness is so very incognito 🥸

Typo my arse!

I would also happily take a slow and painful death over more of this life. At least you know it will end at some point, and usually within days.

My dad is CEV and has a life limiting and progressive condition. And I can't see him. He's already told me he'd rather live less time and live well than exist like this for much longer.

We are following rules, just been invited out to meet friends who are all gathering in a variety of places as it's a snap day... like it's ok them I guess we can pass on covid in the snow 🤦‍♀️

We stayed home cooked food and walked the dogs.

I'm a bit shocked they posted the whole gathering on social media, I'm also annoyed we aren't dicks because the gathering and mulled wine looked amazing.

I am taking it seriously.
My 10 year old ds is ecv, and has been shielding most of the year.
I feel like the rest 9f us in the family are walking a tightrope trying to get the balance right.
I worry we will end lockdown too soon, send schools back to soon and not follow the best strategy for suppressing the rate if infection as much as possible.
We have no prospect of a vaccine suitable for ds, so I'm not sure what will happen after the next few steps in this long slow march.
But yes, I'm taking it seriously, I want the restrictions to end as soon as they feasibly can, and that will only happen if we all take it seriously.
I also hope and pray that more help and support is put in place for those who are really struggling.

The covid risk calculator placed my risk of death from covid at 1 in 250,000. That doesn't scare me.

@wiseone. Thanks for your advice, but you can't even get a telephone appointment at our GPs. In any case, the only thing they could do is increase my dosage. What I need is hope; I need something to look forward to. I enjoyed going to the gym to do weight training, but that, and swimming, has been taken away although the sanitation there was excellent. I can do some classes at home, but it's not the same. Even the promised snow today melted after a couple of hours, so there didn't seem much point in going out for the walk we had planned. I know I am luckier than some, with a large house and a garden, husband, son and new kitten, good health and can still work online, but it's the change that I need. Our lives are just so small now.

@Thewiseoneincognito you realise how twee and shite it sounds telling someone to "find happiness every day no matter what"

You realise if that was the case and all we had to do was go on an Easter egg style hunt for some happiness then a great many mental health conditions would just poof away. How wonderful and easy that would be

@MadKittenWoman try not to let your feelings become insignificant by people telling you "we're all suffering". Yes, lots of us are, but that doesn't invalidate your feelings.

You might be the luckiest person on the planet but you're still entitled to feel lonely, desperate, miserable, robbed of your freedom and just all round shit. This isn't a natural way to live and it doesn't matter how many incognito wise people come on the internet to say "just get on with it", it will never be natural to be cooped up like a caged animal. There's a reason so many people petition for zoos and the like to be closed!!

As a family we are taking it very seriously, doing everything we can. My oh sets the rules at his work and they are also doing everything possible there too. None of us are classed as vulnerable but we know it can also be bad for the unvulnerable too and we could unknowingly pass it onto others who could get it badly. Just hope the ones who get vaccinated first, then think of us at the end of the vaccination list who have also been doing all we can and our children who won't be vaccinated

One of the biggest things I cannot get my head around right now.

In places like the states where prisoners are on death row for committing henious crimes, most (not all) of these people are allowed some sort of final visitation from family before they suffer a quick and painless death!

Right now in this country, we have people in their 70s/80s/90s and even 100s not being allowed too see any of their family in their final moments (after already not seeing them for so long). while they are left gasping for air holding a strangers hand.

I completely understand those strangers (nurses and doctors) are doing an incredible job and it must be so hard for them right now. However it's no replacent for the hand of a family member.

Some of these people risked their lives for the freedom of our country and we in return are leaving them suffering without even the hand hold of a family member while they pass in a horrible way

Pandemic or no pandemic this is FUCKING DISGRACEFUL!!!

Those not complying- don’t worry you’ll have to eventually

🤣🤣 ooh, you're hard.
🤣😂 you think it won’t happen.*

What are you even talking about? You actually think people will be forced into it? Barricaded into their homes?