Are you taking this seriously?

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Are there any people that aren't clinically vulnerable/vulnerale taking the virus seriously?

It seems like there aren't enough people thinking "well I'm not vulnerable but I'm taking it all on board and think the pandemic is horrendous".

It's all quite soul destroying, the whole thing isn't it but I'm hoping that people are rising above the relentless boredom and realising that the restrictions are for a good cause.

I know a few people that think everything has been exagerated and before the stricter mask rules came in the other week, refused to wear one.

I'm vulnerable, but not extremely clinically vulnerable, and was wondering how many on here think it's all a waste of time because they don't think they're at risk?

[quote MotherForker]@VioletCharlotte I need human contact. A proper hug from someone who gives a shit about me. I need a break from being inside my house with my twat ex-H. I need a break from my children, just a day maybe to be on my own.

I need someone who listens and cares and doesn't just say "yes it is hard". Or offer me more pills.[/quote]
Is there anyone? I have had a shopkeeper and random guy on the Tube hug me. They could see I was broken and hugging isn't actually against the law.

I am very grateful to them.

@OpheliasCrayon I totally understand your point. I think we're in broad agreement - people who say "I'd rather die than live like this" really don't understand exactly what they are saying. So many people's lives are far harder than the conditions of lockdown.

@Sethy38

* What I don't understand though is why people in mn have a problem with people not caring about covid. *

This is a baffling statement given we are in lockdown as a result of covid spreading.

No. There are 100s of measures to take before lockdown. (You can AS my many posts on infection c

The disease cannot be blamed for this.

Interesting article I explored said we could not have locked down without tech. I agree. It is a decision made by robots, in a way.

Infection c

I'm not scared of catching it. As a key worker, I'm particularly impressed that as I've been going in every day I haven't caught it and presume I will at some point.

Given my weight, age, sex, general health and fitness levels, unless I'm very very unlucky, it will be at worse like getting the flu. Not nice, but not something worth personally panicking about.

I follow rules I have to. But I dont care all that much. Im not worried.

I'm not all that worried about the NHS being overwhelmed, I last went to A&E 3 years ago when one of my dcs decided to take the quickest route out of a tree and we wanted to get their arm checked out. Before that, I've only needed the NHS for routine things since having my DCs.

This is a pandemic that risks other people and other families, not mine directly, we are effected by the restrictions, I fear those. Not the virus.

I give up, this website doesnt work!

@TorringtonDean

I follow all rules, stay at home, work from home, all shopping online. I am utterly sick and tired of the deniers and conspiracy theorists and the people claiming it is all hysteria. Do you honestly think the government would have done all of this, including the harm to the economy, without a damned good reason? If anything it’s almost certain the threat of the virus is worst than they tell us.

My one vulnerability is I am obese. So you can all blame me - self inflicted danger. In fact this is a lifelong problem I have battled since childhood. I did try my best to keep it under control and at one stage was merely overweight, ate next to nothing and spent hours and hours each week at the gym. Then life became busier and I couldn’t keep up the routine. I have tried to lose weight during the lockdown but it’s not easy to starve if trying to feed a family and stay indoors. So if I die it’s my fault. We all have an expiry date anyway. I’m just explaining that we fatties don’t want to be this way. Unless I permanently live on 800cals a day I will have a weight problem. Our metabolisms are not all the same.

It's nothing to do with conspiracy theories or denying Covid exists. I know it exists, I can see the numbers of people. But I do not care anymore. Life is not about merely existing and avoiding death. This is not living.

I really don’t know what more people expect us to do.
People can’t go to work, can’t send their kids to school. Can’t go to weddings or funerals. Can’t attend the birth of their own children.
People haven’t seen their loved ones for months and months.

How much more seriously do we have to be? Seal ourselves in our homes?

@Sethy38 I think you're confusing me with someone else. I have an adult daughter. No young children.

How much more seriously do we have to be? Seal ourselves in our homes?

There are some on here that would absolutely love this idea

[quote MotherForker]@VioletCharlotte I need human contact. A proper hug from someone who gives a shit about me. I need a break from being inside my house with my twat ex-H. I need a break from my children, just a day maybe to be on my own.

I need someone who listens and cares and doesn't just say "yes it is hard". Or offer me more pills.[/quote]
Sending you an unmumsnetty virtual hug

I've lived with exP and found children before and I know how hard it is, so can understand how difficult it is during lockdown. The thing that got me through is talking to friends, do you have people you can talk to IRL? Just chatting on here can help, although I think the Coronavirus topic isn't a good place to be if your mental health is already suffering.

[quote VioletCharlotte]@Forgetmenot157
I hear what you're saying, but it's highly unlikely we'll still be in this situation in three years time. If you look at the data for past pandemics, they normally last about two years. There's no reason this one won't follow a similar a pattern. We have the vaccines now, once enough people are vaccinated, things will start to feel very different. [/quote]
What if they don't get better tho or we have a mutation that completely avoids the vaccine...

The whole point is not what's likely to happen, it is about people claiming they will put up with restrictions endlessly. Which is a lie. We are all like elastic bands some snap will a little pressure, some take alot more, but eventually we all have our breaking points and that is a fact.

I'm not clinically vulnerable and I don't really know where I stand with how serious I take the virus.

I'm not concerned about it for myself, or for any of my family really.

But I still adhere to the guidelines/rules/lockdowns, more because I think it's right as opposed to being scared of catching it.

If there weren't things in place stopping it then I would still be mixing with friends and living life as normal.

I don't know if that means I don't take it seriously or if it means I know the risk to myself is a lot lower.

I also think as far as pandemics go, this is quite mild. Not a nice thing to say, but it's how I feel.

@Forgetmenot157 are many people saying they will put up with restrictions endlessly though? I've seen one or two posts saying this, but I think the majority of people are putting up with it as they know it will come to an end.

It is what it is now, I’m following the rules but what will be will be.

I also echo PP in that I would very very happily accept the risk of catching COVID if it meant I could do something other than sit in the house suffering horrendous mental health.

Because lockdown is far more likely to kill me than Covid. I welcome a Covid death over life like this.

@DappledOliveGroves

I don't care if I get it. I don't care if I'm seriously ill. Don't care if I die. All I know is that I cannot live in lockdown much longer.

Sadly it’s not all about you is it. If we all had attitudes like you where would we be.

Carys a wonderful example pf the community spirit brought about by all this.

It's too much. I cannot do this for much longer

[quote YukoandHiro]@OpheliasCrayon I totally understand your point. I think we're in broad agreement - people who say "I'd rather die than live like this" really don't understand exactly what they are saying. So many people's lives are far harder than the conditions of lockdown. [/quote]
What's upset me from the beginning is my illnesses and issues have always pretty much been ignored. I've had to fight for safe working conditions, I've had friends not tell me that they or their kids are unwell when I've seen them and then I've caught the thing and ended up hospitalized (and they knew this was a risk) and all of a sudden...... Covid hits.. and everyone suddenly knows what it's like to have to live constantly thinking about your health. It upsets me that I was invisible until it hit everyone and now everyone suddenly wants their needs and worries listened to. I listen, I respect others but I just wondered where it was prior....

I have had covid in the last month and I'm still taking it seriously. I still gel my hands when I get in the car and I still hardly go anywhere and see no one except the people I live with. I cant do more unless I hide in my bedroom.

I'm going to be a germaphocic soon.

However I'm scared of catching it. Esp as it was mild for me so it's unlikely to kill me next time. I'm scared it might kill a loved one but again, none of my 4 young kids caught it or dh.

It just what is. Follow rules, dont give it much headspace, accept that life is stopped for the foreseeable and the fallout will hurt for decades after.

Apart from suicide I cant step up more than that to stop the spread tbh

[quote VioletCharlotte]@Forgetmenot157 are many people saying they will put up with restrictions endlessly though? I've seen one or two posts saying this, but I think the majority of people are putting up with it as they know it will come to an end.

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I just think that the government need to release their exit strategy. This exit strategy also needs to include scenarios where things have not improved or new variants are found etc. People need a clear route back to normality so they can process and make peace with it... Whether that reality involves covid or not!

It is the not knowing that is destroying peoples mental health.

Also people being upset by lockdown ... Try being like this for years, too unwell to get out of bed for Up to 6 months of a year, missing eveeything, seeing no one, being too unwell to do anything other than go to hospital appointments or admitted to hospital for treatment..... And this is every year for me for the last 15 years, and I try to live around it ...and make the best, and work my key worker job as best I can... And when I see people complaining I'm like .. this is my life and always will be, constantly missing out, lying in bed and hearing mu husband and kids downstairs having fun knowing I'm too unwell to join them... It sucks...and this isn't going to stop for me , covid will.

I also understand serious mental health issues so I don't belittle the genuine ones on here as I have very serious ones involving constant mental health care ...but.... The people who are just bored and frustrated... It gets to me. But it is what it is, I'm me, not anyone else so....

@Sethy38

* What I don't understand though is why people in mn have a problem with people not caring about covid. *

This is a baffling statement given we are in lockdown as a result of covid spreading.

Yeah and I couldn't care less. See my above points. I have bigger problems than covid. But people on MN think EVERYONE should care about it like it's the end of the world. It isn't, and I genuinely do not care.