Are you taking this seriously?

[nolovelost]

Are there any people that aren't clinically vulnerable/vulnerale taking the virus seriously?

It seems like there aren't enough people thinking "well I'm not vulnerable but I'm taking it all on board and think the pandemic is horrendous".

It's all quite soul destroying, the whole thing isn't it but I'm hoping that people are rising above the relentless boredom and realising that the restrictions are for a good cause.

I know a few people that think everything has been exagerated and before the stricter mask rules came in the other week, refused to wear one.

I'm vulnerable, but not extremely clinically vulnerable, and was wondering how many on here think it's all a waste of time because they don't think they're at risk?

I follow all rules, stay at home, work from home, all shopping online. I am utterly sick and tired of the deniers and conspiracy theorists and the people claiming it is all hysteria. Do you honestly think the government would have done all of this, including the harm to the economy, without a damned good reason? If anything it’s almost certain the threat of the virus is worst than they tell us.

My one vulnerability is I am obese. So you can all blame me - self inflicted danger. In fact this is a lifelong problem I have battled since childhood. I did try my best to keep it under control and at one stage was merely overweight, ate next to nothing and spent hours and hours each week at the gym. Then life became busier and I couldn’t keep up the routine. I have tried to lose weight during the lockdown but it’s not easy to starve if trying to feed a family and stay indoors. So if I die it’s my fault. We all have an expiry date anyway. I’m just explaining that we fatties don’t want to be this way. Unless I permanently live on 800cals a day I will have a weight problem. Our metabolisms are not all the same.

Part of the difficulty seems to be that we're still using the 'interim' sort of masks that were just supposed to be a stop gap to prevent us from reducing the stock for frontline healthcare workers.

All this time on and HCWs still have inadequate PPE for the roles that some of them have and the public hasn't been transitioned to wearing the multi-layer masks that might have more plausible evidence behind them.

@VioletCharlotte

I don't know anyone who isn't taking it seriously. All my friends and family are sticking to the rules, I would say 95% of the time (I'm sure there have been minor breaches like shopping when it's not really essential, or not strictly sticking to 2m when walking with a friend).

When I go shopping I see very few people not wearing a mask (maybe one). Nobody I know is clinically vulnerable, but no one really wants to be ill either. We're all fed up with it, we want life back to normal, we don't think it's been handled well, but there's an acceptance that we just have to sit it out and wait while the vaccine is rolled out and until the pressure is taken off the NHS.

But how long do you wait it out for?

To all those saying they will do it as long as it takes... Its simply not true... There will Be a limit for everyone... If this was still going on in 3 years time you would not be as compliant as you are now

I honestly think this site is full of bots from the government. Every supermarket I go in people are wearing masks. No one I know is moving out of their bubbles.

It’s always somebody else

I'm taking it seriously in that I'm following all the rules.

It's not enough though. Middle of lockdown and I have been nowhere except work (where I work in an office alone and see nobody else all day). We get online deliveries. Yet I have covid. No idea how. I can only assume it's from children going to keyworker school, but no cases reported.

We can lock down and close things off and socially distance all we like but the virus is still going round no matter what we try so unless this vaccine really does provide enough protection, we are just going to have to decide at some point that this all needs to end.

@MotherForker I feel like that too sometimes - but when you think about it you don't really want that situation. Imagine what your children would go through emotionally if you were in a coma.

This is what I mean about the hyperbole. I've had some very dark moments too. But I don't actually want to wish things to be worse for my whole family to give myself a break. Also if you were in a coma you'd have to live like this for many many more months because your overall health would be buggered

@TorringtonDean

I follow all rules, stay at home, work from home, all shopping online. I am utterly sick and tired of the deniers and conspiracy theorists and the people claiming it is all hysteria. Do you honestly think the government would have done all of this, including the harm to the economy, without a damned good reason? If anything it’s almost certain the threat of the virus is worst than they tell us.

My one vulnerability is I am obese. So you can all blame me - self inflicted danger. In fact this is a lifelong problem I have battled since childhood. I did try my best to keep it under control and at one stage was merely overweight, ate next to nothing and spent hours and hours each week at the gym. Then life became busier and I couldn’t keep up the routine. I have tried to lose weight during the lockdown but it’s not easy to starve if trying to feed a family and stay indoors. So if I die it’s my fault. We all have an expiry date anyway. I’m just explaining that we fatties don’t want to be this way. Unless I permanently live on 800cals a day I will have a weight problem. Our metabolisms are not all the same.

Well, some would say you are a burden on the NHS, just like those who don't follow the rules to the letter.

I have read online from some people who either "don't believe in it" as a risk or are bored with it all now.

In my own circle of friends and colleagues, I know of no one who is not taking it seriously. At work it was taken very seriously, with the DR plans invoked late January as a precaution, preparation throughout February as the story unfolded and everyone who could sent to WFH weeks before the lock down in March.

We recognised that many who can't WFH including teachers in school were at higher risk and absolutely deserved public appreciation for their role

Given that we can do easily work from home, it's obviously a responsibility to avoid any other places. I would be embarrassed to catch it and pass it on.

@GalesThisMorning

I think most are. There is a small, very vocal, very angry group of people on mumsnet that don't believe it's worth locking down to save old people's lives. And they don't believe the NHS needs to be protected. I disagree, and am trying not to catch or spread the virus. Most people I know and see are doing the same.

I think it's extremely unfair on elderly people. I doubt the majority would agree with it.

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

Part of the difficulty seems to be that we're still using the 'interim' sort of masks that were just supposed to be a stop gap to prevent us from reducing the stock for frontline healthcare workers.

All this time on and HCWs still have inadequate PPE for the roles that some of them have and the public hasn't been transitioned to wearing the multi-layer masks that might have more plausible evidence behind them.

Yes I agree.

Whilst masks do offer protection they are not 100%
Mos you could have next door neighbour Julie who is phoning the police on her neighbours for going out in their car for a drive to exercise yet is happily walking round Sainsbury’s in her mask passing the virus on after touching products and breathing through her mask.

Even if you touch a door handle, key pad, petrol pump you have a chance of catching or passing the virus on.

@DappledOliveGroves

I don't care if I get it. I don't care if I'm seriously ill. Don't care if I die. All I know is that I cannot live in lockdown much longer.

I remember you from another thread

You have very young children

Sure let you don’t really feel like this?

I do agree that I feel terrible for my grandparents. They're in their 80s and I feel like they've had one of their last good years stolen.

[quote YukoandHiro]@MotherForker I feel like that too sometimes - but when you think about it you don't really want that situation. Imagine what your children would go through emotionally if you were in a coma.

This is what I mean about the hyperbole. I've had some very dark moments too. But I don't actually want to wish things to be worse for my whole family to give myself a break. Also if you were in a coma you'd have to live like this for many many more months because your overall health would be buggered [/quote]
Some of us live with this anyway.
My husband has watched as I nearly passed away in front of him. Daily we deal with my serious illnesses and frequent hospitalisations constantly...
This is my life. And when I see posts like this saying how terrible this would be it's upsetting because suddenly there's this realisation in people how bad serious illnesses could be... When actually people live with it anyway - it was this shit for us and our families before but no one noticed then.... I'm young, fit, very thin and extremely unwell...but no one saw how it was like before covid hit...
I don't care about covid. What I don't understand though is why people in mn have a problem with people not caring about covid. Worse things do happen. When you've held your own dead child ..you'll know that too.

The posters saying I can't or won't do this for much longer, what does mean. You'll just stop following the rules?

What choice do we have, if we don't stick to lockdown now this will just drag on for longer, the only way out of it is to go through it and if you stop complying the vast majority of freedom/activities/shops etc that you want to be able to access to return to some sort of normality will just remain shut or inaccessible indefinitely. Hospital beds and medical care may not be available to you or your loved ones.

It's not as if the government will just roll over and end lockdown if enough people don't comply

I'm complying, everyone I know is too, yes it's shit but we have to get through the next few weeks in the hope that the amazing job the NHS are doing with the vaccines and the compliance of the majority will get us through to better times.

@borntohula but actually I am not a burden on the NHS because I follow the rules. So I am not getting Covid! I hardly ever see a doctor and I am otherwise healthy. I work hard and I pay my taxes too.

I just tried to explain that obesity as an issue is not as simplistic as it seems. Still you chose not to read that and just made a bitchy comment. Cheers. See you next Tuesday.

@Forgetmenot157
I hear what you're saying, but it's highly unlikely we'll still be in this situation in three years time. If you look at the data for past pandemics, they normally last about two years. There's no reason this one won't follow a similar a pattern. We have the vaccines now, once enough people are vaccinated, things will start to feel very different.

For those saying 'get help' to others who are suffering mentally - there's no help out there. From my experience all resources are directed towards Covid.

I am on my knees mentally and cannot continue like this much longer. This is not living.

@carrottbaton

For those saying 'get help' to others who are suffering mentally - there's no help out there. From my experience all resources are directed towards Covid.

I am on my knees mentally and cannot continue like this much longer. This is not living.

I'm really sorry to hear you're feeling like this, but there is help out there. I work for a mental health trust, all of our services are operating as usual (albeit they're very busy). What sort of help do you think you need?

My dc are the only reason I continue. I would have been dead a long time ago otherwise. But it's becoming harder and harder to keep going. I don't think people really understand what happens to your brain.

The depressing thing is I realised yesterday that even if I could form a bubble (I can't because is till live with stbxh) I don't think I have anyone local who would form one with me. Probably because I'm hard work with my mh.

And what's better for my children, a crying, shouting, screaming mother who stays in bed all day or a dead one? Neither is great is it. So I've fucked up their lives too.

Oh ouch @TorringtonDean 🙄 you can't guarantee you'll never catch covid, it is, by all accounts, a massively contagious disease. Are you planning on hiding away until you're no longer vulnerable or just while it's illegal to do anything? I don't personally care what you do or whether you consider your vulnerability to be self-inflicted but I think you should probably refrain from judging other people.

I'm taking it seriously. DP and I aren't vulnerable, we were floored by covid last year. I wouldn't want anyone getting it if we can avoid it.

Yes we are we get deliveries only (set up local suppliers so supermarket delivery only needed every 3 weeks), wipe everything down and don't go out unless it's our daily walk. My son does go to nursery on a KW slot which is our main exposure risk but his nursery has switched to mostly outdoors too.

My DH does covid response though so I'm more aware than others about transmission risk especially related to ventilation issues as he gets numbers most days of the week and where people have been to.

People up here do need reminding quite a bit they think as it's a largely rural community it isn't happening. But when they were reminded numbers started dropping (and quickly).

I'm mid 30s not high risk my DH isn't a sensationalist but when I see his face with working I take it seriously.

I completely get the mental health side of things it's also why there is exemptions based around mental health but there is a big difference in then seeing one other or family member for support and what some people then decide to do which is see multiple people inside on a continuous basis because they want to.

@VioletCharlotte I need human contact. A proper hug from someone who gives a shit about me. I need a break from being inside my house with my twat ex-H. I need a break from my children, just a day maybe to be on my own.

I need someone who listens and cares and doesn't just say "yes it is hard". Or offer me more pills.

I agree, there is no help. The police state is such that I didn't even tell my doctor what I nearly did.

The help I need is for my personal life to return, the future not to be a financial black hole, and people to accept that living doesn't mean existing, that dying is far from a tragedy a lot of the time.

* What I don't understand though is why people in mn have a problem with people not caring about covid. *

This is a baffling statement given we are in lockdown as a result of covid spreading.